Coronavirus in Poland

It is safe.

How are your 'nanobots' and 'other life forms'?

This is a possibility I would not discount, but right now I am worried about myocarditis.
The 'Vid has always exclusively been a threat to extremely ill people with multiple comorbidities and/or very old/frail people. The only young people who died from it have all been comically obese. The average healthy human has NOTHING to worry about. Unfortunately now the gene therapy rollout is well underway and not even the healthiest athlete is spared from its effects so perceptions over the threat of COVID to everyone including young people can be reshaped. Just remember that in the period before the "vaxxing", no young healthy human being was dying from coof .

Young people aren't dropping dead from the Mark of the Beast upon being branded, but get heart attacks at a later date, due to spike protein induced damage to heart tissues and God knows what and where else.

The question is, which has the higher risk, and even if the risk is higher with the coof than with the vaxx, does that mean we should submit people to that risk on purpose, as opposed to the strike of fate that a viral infection is?

Traditionally, the answer in pharmacological ethics was no, because in contrast to medicine, a vaccination is applied to a healthy person and thus has a way lower threshold of tolerable side effects.

Again we have had vaccines taken off the market for less than 50 reported deaths in the past, while we now have reported deaths in the thousands in every country that has a reporting system.

Scientists however have.


Almost none of which are due to vaccination.

Which scientists, do they have names and sources ?

That's not actually true. There have been deaths, albeit a small number, in younger people who were very physically fit. I read an interesting theory from a genetic epidemiologist who is researching what part genes play in the severity of Covid. He believes that some otherwise healthy, younger people could have a genetic factor which makes them more susceptible. Interesting - makes sense to me.

@mafketis
Governments first responsibility is to "protect" the citizens. Imagine how everyone would be freaking out if covid happened and governments did nothing and let the dead pile up? Personally I wouldnt care, but all the far left nut jobs would go crazy screaming that no one tried. The far right would be screaming that the government wouldnt allow them to invest into pharma to develop these vaccines. And politicians would fear loosing their jobs and pensions. Thats that would happen and thats why neither right or left really want this to go away quickly because it furthers their agenda arguments. Neither side has the balls to really do anything more than they have done.

@Atch
And this makes a lot of sense. Some people have genetic predisposition to diabetes, some for hypertension etc. So it makes perfect sense that some would be genetically adverse to some of these jabs. Really logical thinking that people should be talking about on both sides.

@Korvinus
The vaccines are safe. Millions of lives saves compared to the ones lost to adverse reactions. Thats a win for the multitudes. Sorry, dont GAF about the smallest minorities that may die from the jab. And the great majority of the planet doesnt care about them either.

Yes, but just to clarify this doctor is not focusing on the jabs but on the deaths from those young and healthy who've caught the virus naturally. Anyway, I just did a quick Google search and to update, various teams of researchers have now established definite genetic risk factors for severe Covid and death.

This is February 2020 thinking. Covid happened, despite some media hype the dead never piled up (for long). By summer of 2020 the pattern was clear, it comes in waves, of 4-8 weeks rise, peak (from a few days to a couple of weeks) and (usually rapid) decline.

There have been many chances for governments to expand hospital capacity or declare the thing over and still they're sowing panic about what is, by all accounts, a short glorified cold (omicron).

Why haven't they taken any of the off ramps that have been clearly visible? Why are they pushing more and more injections when it's clear they don't do that much good?

Why are they still pushing NPIs when none has been conclusively shown to have anything but a slowing effect (or in the worst case an accelerating effect)?

@mafketis
Your wrong about bodies piling up. In NYC there were refrigeration trucks parked outside hospitals, full of bodies. My own eyes saw this. Detroit, bodies in trucks and refrigeration buildings, again, witnessed. For months this was the case. Unless months needs to be years I think anything more than a week or two is a very long time for a body to lay around waiting to be processed and buried.

Again, governments did not build hospitals because they dont want to spend the money. So what? Who cares what the reasoning is. People who elect these politicians have done nothing to change them. All the people have done is vote in idiots who do nothing but prolong any direction from actually taking hold. They prolong the gridlock of bullshit politics. That goes for Poland too.

What part of millions of lives saved dont you understand? Dont do much good? Are you really this ignorant?

Cant wait to get to the US next week and be forced to listen to more antivax bullshit and how Trump won the election fair and square and how the Jan 6 investigation is a witch hunt. All these brilliant people lining up to speak loudly.

UK's Boris Johnson faced a rebellion in his own party on Tuesday, as around 100 Conservative MPs refused to support a vote on Covid passes.

The measure was nonetheless still passed and will come into effect this week.
The NHS Covid Pass, an app which shows proof on a mobile device of full vaccination or a negative Covid test, will now be required to enter nightclubs and other large venues or events across England.

Mark of the Beast.
My guess is airports, hospitals and food markets soon.
More freedoms taken away little by little.


Because he is one of the good guys.

today's numbers

22.2 % percent of 104,502

hospitalized : -267 to 24,275

ICU: -18 to 2114 (same with ICU)

daily deaths: 669 (496 with co-morbidities)

7 day average deaths: +5 to 406

Vaccinated Cornell University shuts down campus as Covid spikes.
According to the school's website, 97 percent of the overall population of the campus has been fully vaccinated.
That includes 100 percent of professional faculty, 98 percent of other employees, and 99 percent of undergraduate students.
As of Dec. 12, there are 469 active student cases, including 214 newly confirmed positives.
Nothing to see here. :-o

@johnny reb
Now how many have died and how many are in the hospital? Really, just stick to the things that matter. Infection numbers and percentages are for people who really dont understand whats going on.

As for Trump being a good guy, I dont see how being good or bad removes him from responsibility for all these claims people are making about the jab's being bad and killing people. You cant ask for credit for warp speed without taking responsibility for nanobots, life forms, microchips and all the alleged young people dying from the jab. Thankfully I was just told by a colleague that they are now selling tinfoil hats at Detroit Metro in duty free, so I will be safe once I get there.

How many more shots are you willing to take?

For influenza you need one annually.

For Covid, the vaccines are new and still developing. Whether there'll be annual ones or eventually a once and for all one is far too early to say.

Have you had your booster yet?

The last flu shot I had was back in the 1980s...


Not planning on it. I've gotten over covid and so have natural immunity which is far superior to whatever it is that the pfizer shot does....

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Berenson has been more right than pretty much every government in the world (except maybe Sweden)......

By all means turn yourself into a pin-cushion if you want.

For WHICH influenza as they never turn out to be the strain that is going around for any given year.
When you catch the flu after being jabbed by a flu vaccine you will hear, "Well it didn't cover that strain" or "you didn't get as bad as you would have" or another of many of their denial b.s

Only the sheep follow such nonscience.

@mafketis
One per year, like i do for the Flu. Had had no issues with Flu since I started getting the jab. The Flu jabs are actually a cocktail of flu virus cells, not just one strain, so you are really well covered. Again though, it will not keep you from getting it, but will most times keep you out of the hospital and keep you from dying from flu related illness like pneumonia.

As for natural immunity, it fades. I had covid too and got vaccinated. I will report on my antibody test after I get the results this weekend. Nothing like real results and not rumors on the internet to present facts.

I have to agree Dr. PolAm, especially when they use words like, I do, I had, I started, Again though, most likely, but most times..........all opinionated.

The flu shot does NOT cover all strains of influenza.
The flu vaccine is made way ahead of time and they 'guess' which flu strains are most likely to be dominate for the year when they make it.

It only covers a couple of strains.
Reality to such internet rumors otherwise are nothing more than Baaa Baaa

@johnny reb
Never said the flu vaccine covered all. Only said it was a cocktail of virus cells. Again this is where you are reading what you want and not the actual words that are written. As for degree's that's great, people who get them, myself included, only prove we are capable of setting out to complete a long term project. It is not a certificate of competence in any modality. If it were, my cousin with a geology degree would have not worked in McDonalds for 15 years before putting his degree to use in a cement plant. lmfao Degrees.

Cover all and well covered ?
Projecting insinuations with the play of words to be the truth written in stone ?


I beg to differ with your insinuations and opinions.


(as do most of us posting here have one) Pffffft !
Now would that be a two-year degree, a four-year degree, Master's degree and in what, Liberal Arts which are as useless as the paper they are written on followed by a business degree.

Now for the love of our sanity please get put your degree away, use some Common Sense and get back On-Topic of this thread instead of using us to boast about your Hoyte Toity superior intellect and your prestigious degree. P.U.!

Cant wait to get my booster jab and tinfoil hat. Now Meijer is giving the hat for free after the jab as long as you sit on Santa's lap.

Back in Poland though, looks like we should see a peak in hospitalizations and deaths in two weeks or so.

Rogalski was predicting this week.... today's positive percentage was up a bit from yesterday but still down from a week ago with similar numbers tested....

The peak has lasted longer than predicted though, so....

@mafketis
I think we will see a bumb in mid January too, but not much after that like last year. This is going to turn into another annual flu event. All the over reaction in the beginning and spreading fear was completely over done. How many people died from hiding in their homes out of fear. Thats what we should really be talking about. Suicides, no treatment for medical issues, cancelled treatments and surgeries. Thats the criminal side that really needs to be addressed. Not the profiteering, which has been going on for centuries with every crisis.

Keep in mind that most doctors will tell you that you are crazy if you come to them with vaxx side effects, and there is no chance it was the vaxx, and of the percentage that take you seriously, most of them don't have "enough time" to make reports, because it takes so long, and they are very busy.

Maybe take some time off to watch the football, and enjoy the regular chest clutching breaks brought to you by Pfizer/other shots. I mean, well over a hundred footballers so far this year is a nothingburger after all, happens every year. Or the statistics of VAER's where it is has been established less than 1 percent of adverse reactions are reported. After that, consult your crystal ball to see whether any of these totally novel vaxxes, that have NEVER been successfully used before in a vaxx, will cause long term side effects.

The profiteering is what most people can relate to as a motive and something to punish...

@mafketis
Why not punish governments for not preparing? For giving themselves pay raises and not investing in hospitals. For allowing PAC and Super PAC money to go to their pockets even if they do not win re-election. For buying stock in these pharma companies with insider knowledge. But we do nothing about that. We want to make **** up about nanobots and life forms because its easier to do that than to place blame for things on the people we elected. The same is true in Poland and the US.

Profiteering in a free market economy is the definition of free market. It is governments that need to be punished for not only allowing it to happen, but by their actions making it happen in compounded ways.

The British Govt and astrazenica.

It's spelled, "astrazeneca" and is an afterthought of Pfizer.

A big company, and interestingly their vaccine seems to work better with Omicron.