Coronavirus in Poland

The biggest nonsense is in reporting covid deaths as if they were all equal. The death of a 20-year-old means that society lost 50 years of productive life. The death of an 80-year-old like me means nothing. In fact, it's a net plus to the government bean counters.

If the covid virus were smart enough to kill only homeless drug addicts sh*itting on the sidewalks or child rapists, would anybody want to spend a trillion to develop a vaccine?

If you answered "no", you just admitted that not all life is "precious".

I posted that two days ago and none of the jabbers picked up on that.
Yet the push is still on to get jabbed even when they are admitting that the covid vaccines don't work for the new strain of covid. :-/

Well judging by the fact that California approved a $1 billion housing package to house the homeless I'm sure they'd justify $1 trillion... The cost of job loss and productivity let alone the direct payments that were made well exceed $1 trillion not counting the extra funding pharma companies undoubtedly received... right after some shares were brought in the wife's brothers name...


They don't really work all that well as it is... for any strain... if they did there'd be a huge decrease in covid cases with countries that have 70, 80%+ vacc rates. Yet some countries are experiencing more of a spike this fall/winter than the year before i.e. UK than late 2020/early 2021 when the vaxx was just getting rolled out, US in Aug/Sep 2021 had far more cases than Aug/Sep 2020 even though the majority of the population was vaxx'd by then.

Funny how no one looks at the before mass vaxx cases and after mas vaxx cases... And when it is brought up it's blamed on the unvaxxed... Hmmm really? Then why are there so many instances where cases are higher after the majority has already been vaxxed i.e. fall/winter 2021 versus than when the vaxx wasn't yet FDA cleared (pre-Dec 202/Jan Feb 2021) and when it was just starting to get rolled out en masse?

I just read a lengthy article on "The Covid Fraud".
Seems it has been taken down off the web for some odd reason. lol
How people fraudulently are obtaining covid funds.
Did you know that 40% of the people who test positive for covid show no symptoms at all.
They don't even know they have it.

@Dirk diggler
There are low numbers in Spain with about 80% vaccinated.

I just got a new one for my truck that says:
People are Pissed !


I'm going there next week.

The silence from the covid bootlickers here is deafening...
Hello, anybody there...

I though that you will try to convince us with "expert" "scientific" arguments instead of 5th grade trolling :-)

Let me help you:

"stay home, save lives" "your dust mask protects me" "vaccines will make you immune to Corona" "don't visit your grandpa's during holiday season" "just stay on your sofa for 2 more weeks and we'll beat the virus..."

And a companion for the other side:

...And Can't Take This Sh|t Anymore!

And there are high numbers in UK, Poland, Belgium, Germany, Netherlands, France, etc. etc. - higher than there were last December when the majority weren't vaxx'd despite the majority of the population now being vaxx'd in each one

In fact, if you look at the whole trend for most western countries they had lower rates when the virus broke and stats first started to get compiled (March 2020) throughout 2020 and early 2021, when the vaxx was gradually getting rolled out. Yet now most western countries are reporting higher covid cases regularly throughout Q3/Q4 2021 despite the majority of the populations being vaxxed.

Looks like the "safe and effective" vaxx is doing wonders for the Germans... cases are wayyy down as a result of the majority being vaxxed... same situation with the aforementioned countries and plenty more throughout Europe and North America..

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The most amazing covid factoid: the most oppressive covid hellholes are the most "liberal" and "democratic" countries on earth. And also the least effective judging by the numbers.

Me thinks that if I am going to be oppressed, at least I want results. The Western covid Gestapos deliver only the lockdowns and penalties and nothing in return beyond the line that without all that love things would be much, much worse...so be grateful for being almost suicidal from all that care.

@Dirk diggler
58% fully vaccinated in Poland is hardly an overwhelming majority. And you may want to look where in Poland the infections are coming from. The notoriously unvaccinated regions. Just like the majority of infections in other countries are still unvaccinated.

We have reached the boiling point where numbers don't matter anymore - all of them assumed to be lies to fit the covid narrative.

Quoting from New Yor Post:

Americans are increasingly done with mandates in the name of fighting COVID. After almost two years, most have gone back to their pre-pandemic lives and just won't obey orders from the hysteria echo chamber.

Consider Gov. Kathy Hochul's recent mask-or-vax mandate. More than 30 New York county executives have publicly refused to enforce it, using terms like "Gestapo tactics" and "mask police."

I see that some in New York read PF and my "Gestapo" posts. Am I a genius or what?

It's still a majority, and it's still far more than were vaccinated a year ago. Yet COVID cases are far lower last year, before the majority was vaccinated


That just proves my point even more so. If the majority of cases today are the "still unvaccinated" like you say, then why is there MORE covid this winter overall especially December than there was a year ago, when far more people were vaccinated than there are today and when that same group of unvaxxed were unvaxxed a year ago just as they are today? If the vaxx were so effective the numbers should have declined dramatically or at the very least correlate to the difference between 58% fully vaccinated today and the x% fully vaccinated a year ago.

Let's say you have 100 people and extrapolate. Out of those 100 people, let's say 80 were unvaccinated, 20 fully vaccinated a year ago in December 2020 as the vaccine was just getting rolled out and most people had yet to receive their first shot let alone the full dose. Then fast forward a year later to December 2021 and you have 58 fully vaccinated, 42 not vaccinated. If the vaccine were so effective than the 38 people who are now fully vaccinated should have brought the case loads rate downs - as close as possible to 38% since there are now 38 more people/100 that went from unvaxxed to fully vaxxed over the year. Meanwhile, the 42 people not vaccinated were unvaccinated a year ago (and in the example the 20 fully vaxxed last year are vaxxed just as they are today. Yet that's not what happened - cases went up! And not just by a few points nor is this an isolated example - this is the same scenario playing out across numerous western countries.

So no, you can't blame the unvaccinated like the media is doing. It's a lazy cop-out and it's a shame that people are so stupid and gullible to believe it. Simple math and science shows that it's not possible. If the majority of cases today are the unvaxxed, then the rates should be lower, not higher, considering there are far less vaccinated people than there were a year ago. But that doesn't matter - I'm not debating whether the majority of cases are the unvaxxed or not. That's not the point. The point is that the vaxx is being marketed as effective yet rates have gone up in numerous countries instead of falling proportionate to the amount of people who become fully vaxx'd.

It's a shame that people can't look at a simple chart and realize that the math and timelines simply don't add up to the claim of a vaccine being effective. These people are supposedly scientists yet their hypothesis of the vaccine being effective is not supported by the data.

The vaccine is obviously highly unsatisfactory but things would doubtless be worse without it as the hospitals would be overflowing with the old and otherwise compromised individuals - and that really has been the bottom line all along. Not enough intensive care 'beds' in health systems worldwide, even in highly developed countries. I use quotes because we're not just talking the actual bed but the necessary staff to man it. And the knock on effect of that has been the cancellation of scheduled surgeries, disruption of treatments for chronic illnesses, lack of emergency response and ICU for life threatening acute illnesses etc. In fairness, most governments in the EU anyway have always been transparent about that - you can't stop Covid in any of its mutations but you can try to control the spread to keep those Covid hospital admissions down. At the moment, a person taken suddenly ill with something like a ruptured appendix is far more likely to die from lack of prompt medical attention, than the otherwise healthy person who catches Covid.


That's probably due to the easing of restrictions and the 'normal' social interaction, return to workplaces, colleges etc. Certainly in Poland people have hardly paid any attention to social distancing or reducing contacts. The vaccine on its own is not enough.

Sorry to hear about your granny, Adrian.

We will be back to normal when 70% are vaccinated. We will surely be back to normal when 80% are vaccinated. Everything will be ok, when 90% are vaccinated. We will be free when 100% are vaccinated. Just a 4th booster, and we can end the lockdown.

Just a 5th booster and it will go away. Just one shot for the newborns and everything will go back to normal. Just vaccinate the cats and dogs and everything shall be fine.

If this "pandemic," has taught us anything it is that old housewives remedies are more trustworthy than medical "experts."
You would be far safer trusting your grandma to treat you for any illness than going into hospital and getting covid and the medical experts then murdering you through un-needed drugs, intubation and ventilators. The old grandma would just feed you soup and spirits and tell you to stop being lazy in bed and pretending you have "long covid," and walk her to the shops.

No they aren't.

Oh sure they are joun, haven't you heard of homeopathic medicine ?


The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention added eight destinations to its highest-risk category for travel yesterday, including the world's No. 2 most-visited nation (Spain) before the pandemic started.

In its weekly update of Covid-19 travel advisories, the CDC advised against travel to tourist favorite Spain at this time.


Cancelling my plans today. :-(

Says who? (names, links)
The question is really: Is it a vaccine if it does not prevent transmission or infection to a large degree?
They don't function like vaccines, they don't proved any measurable effect and calling them vaccines only gives them legitimacy.
The vaxxes do seem to reduce severe covid illness for a few months. While also potentially destroying immunity against other illnesses or giving a myriad of potential side-effects.

It's a novel Coronavirus. The vaccines are new and developing and most importantly give protection.

The unvaccinated are hospitalised far more often than people who, like you, are fully vaccinated.

WTF?
Is it recommended to paid shills new strategy of attacking opponents of vaxxing?

Sources please, joun, you are full of little green apples.
This has CLEARLY become an epidemic of the vaccinated, not the unvaccinated.
Here is my source that disagree with you joun..
The covid infection rates among the vaccinated now exceed the unvaxxed in every age group over 30, you can grab raw data HERE.

thegatewaypundit.com/2021/10/epidemic-vaccinated-latest-uk-data-shows-rate-infection-among-vaxxed-exceeds-unvaxxed-every-age-group-30/

And before you use your stand bye reply of. "Your source has no basis", please be sure to add YOUR SOURCE for your false claim so I can diminish it with my opinion. lol

You mean life...I am all for it.


With those three jabs they still need my mask, don't they? A great proof of how the "vaccines" protect.

Oh dear, an antivaxxer fake news site...

There is no Omicron. Notice 99.99999999% of these cases are fully vaccinated. The vaccines are the disease.

How did I know, lol and your source joun ?
(Crickets)


Rich, the t.v. covid propaganda ads are outrageous.
Little kids saying, "the reason I want to get vaccinated is so I don't catch covid".
When the truth of the matter is of course that covid vaccines DO NOT stop you from catching covid plus children have a greater chance of dying in a car accident or drowning than from the coronavirus.

These bastards should be sued for false advertising and child abuse.

Anybody using the word "modelling" henceforth should be kicked in the balls one thousand times in a row until they are trained to aversion at the sound of that word.


Exact opposite is the truth. Having had a vaccination means watching the minute hand turn on the clock until your heart clogs with spike proteins and spontaneously locks solid with clotted blood. Nothing will save you. Some will die tonight, others die later. Everybody who got that vaccine will be dead in the next five years.

Naw, they will come out with a $ NEW $ vaccine that will neutralize the aftereffects of the Covid vaccine.
"Hi, we are from the government, we are here to help you." :-/

Guarantee you when they tell you they have found the "vaccine," they're going to tell you it has to be delivered by black dick and they will have you lined up in the streets with brothers behind you while you drop your pants. "I'm going to be cured!" you will scream out at the moment of penetration, your eyes glistening with tears of joy. Finally, you will love Big Brother.