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mafketis
10 Feb 2022  #9931

the problem is the lack of professionals.

so what has he done to increase the number of professionals available?

They worked as intented. T

When? What's happened is that the original justification for restrictions fails and then they change stories "oh, it was never intended to do what we first said.. the goal along was this completely different thing we're making up now" (for a particularly spectacular case see the 'vaccines'....)

Anyone who takes government figures' words at face value is a patsy or a collaborator... (or both).

Novichok
10 Feb 2022  #9932

They worked as intented.

Look at the curves. With so many vaccinated and masks everywhere, why are the last spikes higher than the early ones?
But I know how bootlickers' minds work. No matter what - up or down - what the "authorities" do always "works as intended". Just as with global warming.

Yesterday, I noticed that masks and other restrictions are becoming less necessary as the time to the next elections day gets shorter. Especially in the Bolshevik states.

Amazing observation, Novichok. A true genius...

Tacitus
10 Feb 2022  #9933

so what has he done to increase the number of professionals available?

Well, he has been health minister for a month or so, but the previous government has among other things increased wages. Their is no great solution to this, since there are many factors adding to the lack, not all of them financial (e.g. the demographic decline and longer life expectancies). Frankly it is a job I would want to do even if I were to earn double from my current wages.

is that the original justification

I don't know how people justified restrictions in your country, as I recall Johnson has been changing his mind constantly. In Germany, we had Merkel explain early on how the pandemic could cause our health system to collapse, and the images from Bergamo in Italy underlined this fear vividly.

Anyone who takes government figures'

And being a contrarian just for the sake of it is hardly the sign of intelligence. What numbers do you think are more reliable? Those spouted by some conspiracy theorist on a youtube video with no accountability?

Novichok
10 Feb 2022  #9934

And being a contrarian just for the sake of it is hardly the sign of intelligence.

Oh yes it is. It's called years of experience and recorded history. Now, pay attention...

NOBODY EVER GOT ELECTED BY BEING HONEST.

and the corollary:

Nobody ever got re-elected by saying I lied.

The covid episode will prove me to be a genius again.

The biggest covid nonsense is treating all lives as the same.

From the Darwinian - and, therefore, society's point of view - the death of an 80-year-old guy like me, is a positive event. The death of the 30-year-old who just finished residency - a tremendous loss.

Treating the two as the same - as the covid stats have been since day one - is beyond moronic.

mafketis
11 Feb 2022  #9935

Today's numbers (along with occasional helpful context)

27.0 % positive results out of 132,300 tests...

The 7 day moving average of cases peaked on February 02 and has been in decline since then.... for how long?

NEW NUMBER: 3668 reinfections! yahoo! boosters!

hospitalizations -4 to 19,051

.... still not sure on the percentages of 'admitted due to covid' vs 'tested positive after being admitted for something else'... that would be helpful to know.... so of course there's no information available...

ICU: -17 to 1152

deaths: 290 (218 with comorbidities)

daily deaths (7 day moving average): -7 to 201

Korvinus
12 Feb 2022  #9936

Those spouted by some conspiracy theorist on a youtube video with no accountability?

Everything is more trustworthy then lies spouted by governments or media.

When I first read in 2020 in some obscure corner of the internet that Pfizer had openly confessed to using HIV in its witches brew, I had trouble believing it even though it had come directly from them.

When the first vaccines were given, a hasty suppression had to be made of the very early adopters screaming they had tested HIV positive the day after getting the vaccine without any apparent cause. The news was reporting on it for a day or two before they got the story under control and buried it.

That's when I realized it was all true. This vaccine was a death shot intended to turn the human body into an instant train wreck, a shambling heap of pustules and dripping ichor which would not only kill you but you would die a very nasty end. That was before I realized you might get a merciful instant heart attack that would spare you all the auto-immune disorders it had created.

Any of you who got the vaccine, it is biologically identical to getting sodomized by an entire ward of AIDS patients. No joke. You don't know it yet but you have a very ugly end waiting for you unless you die of heart failure suddenly to spare you what is coming. Shingles and leaking anus are the least of the problems, that's the feelgood hit of the summer bubblegum ending. What is going to happen to you is so horrific it is unbelievable.

Atch
12 Feb 2022  #9937

This vaccine was a death shot

So basically what you're saying is that the purpose of the vaccine is to ensure that the entire population of the developed world dies of AIDS ........do you ever watch Judge Judy? She says that forty years in the courts, listening to evidence, have taught her that if it doesn't make sense it's not true. There is no logic to killing everybody. I can easily believe that a country like China or India would like to get rid of their surplus population but even they don't want to wipe out their entire nations.

mafketis
12 Feb 2022  #9938

Today's numbers (along with occasional helpful context)

25.5 % positive results out of 122,900 tests...

The 7 day moving average of cases peaked on February 02 and has been in decline since then.... for how long?

NEW NUMBER: 3172 reinfections! yahoo! boosters!

hospitalizations -139 to 18,912 (second day of decline)

.... still not sure on the percentages of 'admitted due to covid' vs 'tested positive after being admitted for something else'... that would be helpful to know.... so of course there's no information available...

ICU: -13 to 1139 (second day of decline)

deaths: 331 (252 with comorbidities)

daily deaths (7 day moving average): +6 to 207

Korvinus
12 Feb 2022  #9939

There is no logic to killing everybody.

Suddenly, a bizarre genetically engineered virus is released from a lab in China and turns swiftly into a pandemic.
Professor Neil Ferguson, a well known NWO depopulation operative, appears on BBC news (probably scripted) to announce we are looking at the start of a global pandemic.

I think the elites are running a test to find out the exact the limits to how far they can push the population.

Then there is the depopulation and control agenda. Or they simply lost control of the financial markets and they wing it like Trudeau. The elites want mass depopulation and want a docile underclass who won't rebel against this new world order.

Novichok
12 Feb 2022  #9940

limits to how far they can push the population.

...and they were very pleased with the results. On my list of the most hated, number one position is not occupied by killers, rapists, thieves, or terrorists. That's where the obedient and trusting bootlickers are. Without them, Hitler, Stalin, and Mao would be powerless to murder by the millions.

So, if you are still wearing a mask in your car, you are a tool the three characters I just mentioned loved to have and the necessary part of all evil.

Atch
12 Feb 2022  #9941

the elites

Now you see, the problem with terms like that is that they're meaningless. Who exactly are 'the elites'? You really need to state specifically who they are.

running a test to find out the exact the limits to how far they can push the population.

Perhaps, but that's not the same thing as trying to kill everybody. That's social engineering which has been tried before of course so I'll agree that's a bit more plausible.

The elites want mass depopulation

Giving everybody AIDS wouldn't achieve that because basically you'd just end up killing virtually everyone rather than simply reducing the population- bear in mind that the vaccine is also being promoted for young children and it wouldn't make any sense at all to inject them. If you were trying to exert population control you'd have to do it quite selectively and you would certainly retain a decent sized chunk of the younger generation.

johnny reb
12 Feb 2022  #9942

the vaccine is also being promoted for young children and it wouldn't make any sense at all to inject them.

It doesn't make any sense to vaccinate children period !
How many people are wearing masks these days in Dublin ?

earthcam.com/world/ireland/dublin/?cam=templebar

Novichok
12 Feb 2022  #9943

That's social engineering

Covid Gestapo tactics is beyond "social engineering". It's government-sponsored terrorism - with the support of those who are terrorized. That's the new element. We even got a new term - Karen.

Atch
12 Feb 2022  #9944

Covid Gestapo tactics is beyond "social engineering". It's government-sponsored terrorism

Oh, yes, similar to the USSR under dear old Uncle Jo and friends.

the support of those who are terrorized. That's the new element.

That's not new. The old song, 'It's for our own good. Our dear leader knows best' has been sung many times in history.

Novichok
12 Feb 2022  #9945

That's not new.

It's new in the Western "democracies". "Democracies"...hahahahahaha...Here is a simple test. If, with the exception of the top guy and the cops, 100% in Austria voted against all covid restrictions, who would prevail? See, no need to dig for fossils.

You can run this test by replacing "Austria" with any Western "democracy" and Australia. Or the US. Did you know that our little Hitler in Illinois banned outdoor tennis and the Michigan bit*ch made boating on Lake Michigan a crime?

I read that somewhere in Europe, people needed a permit to have sex.

Atch
12 Feb 2022  #9946

100% in Austria voted against all covid restrictions

The use of the word 'vote' suggests that they would be given the opportunity to do so, which would be very democratic indeed :) Actually restrictions are pretty much lifted completely in most European countries now.

any Western "democracy

Not so. I think you're talking about countries in the EU and they are quite different to each other. But as you're American, I think that's hard for you to grasp that. To you it's all just 'Yurp'.

mafketis
12 Feb 2022  #9947

terms like that is that they're meaningless. Who exactly are 'the elites'?

The thing with a lot of 'conspiracy theories' is that they're generally pretty accurate in the broad outlines but get lots of the details wrong (probably because those following them don't have access to some inside information and they fill in the pieces with their own anxieties....

That's one reason rather than 'conspiracy' I prefer the term 'agenda'....

It's no secret that lots of extremely wealthy and/or powerful people think there are far too many people on the planet and want a much smaller population. They make no secret of it...

It's no secret that some very wealthy and/or powerful people wanted/want to instrumentalize covid to re-shape society (in ways that most people don't want).

It's no secret that mrna has been around a while (a solution looking for a problem?)

My working assumption has been that most vaccinations have been mostly placebos (they seem about as effective) and some lots have been used for experimentation, mostly in the third world (there was a story about lots of adverse reactions in a part of Vietnam that was quickly thrown down the memory hole... and a few others).

James Lindsay of the remarkalbe 'grievance studies' expose of academic.... nonsense and intellectual slayer of Paolo Freire (evil fraud) read "The Great Narrative" (co-authored by Kalus Schwab...... and dissects it.

Like I said, an agenda out in the open (imagine what they talk about behind closed doors).

twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1492184159179231236

Novichok
12 Feb 2022  #9948

Actually restrictions are pretty much lifted completely in most European countries now.

That is irrelevant to my point.

My point was about the imposition of them regardless of how the 99% would may feel. That's terror, not democracy. Yes, I know, for their own good.

cms neuf
12 Feb 2022  #9949

There are still many restrictions in place - on travel especially but also wearing masks in malls, showing vaccine status in hotels, gyms etc. it will take months maybe longer to get back to normal

Atch
13 Feb 2022  #9950

showing vaccine status in hotels, gyms etc.

Not in all European countries.

It's no secret that some very wealthy and/or powerful people wanted/want to instrumentalize covid to re-shape society (

The whole global reset thing has been openly discussed for years and is a clearly stated plan. So therefore one could say that 'the elites' referred to by Korvinus are those who are promoting this idea, would that be fair? The problem is that although governments may pay lip service to the idea, you won't get them all to sign up to it with any real fervour. I can only speak for Ireland and I know my country well in terms of the political scene and there is simply no way that people like our current Taoiseach, Micheál Martin, could ever be part of some evil mastermind conspiracy. I'm pretty certain that the Irish government promoted the vaccine in good faith.

My own view is that it's more than likely that the virus was created in a lab but I'm undecided as to whether it

a) escaped accidentally and created an opportunity for certain groups to do a bit of social engineering experimentation

b) was released on purpose as part of an agreement between China and those 'certain groups' where China agreed to take the rap - they're pretty unpopular anyway so it makes no difference to them if everyone hates them - and has been given some sweet financial benefits in return.

As for the vaccine, I didn't take it myself because I'm not happy with how quickly it was produced and I'm not convinced about its safety in terms of long term side effects but I'm not an anti-vaxxer and I don't think there's anything purposely poisonous in it. I DO object to the pressure put on people to get vaccinated and I think it's interesting to observe how quick the community has been to turn on anyone who admits to being unvaccinated. I'm inclined to think that has been noted as part of the social engineering aspect which, though possibly unplanned, has certainly been observed by some people behind the scenes of all this and will be used for research purposes to assist with the reset in the future.

Korvinus
13 Feb 2022  #9951

Who exactly are 'the elites'?

Bill Gates and George Soros, for example. Others are unknown and prefer to remain as such.
I have already explained it here:

mafketis
13 Feb 2022  #9952

Today's numbers (along with occasional helpful context)

265 % positive results out of 84,750 tests...

The 7 day moving average of cases peaked on February 02 and has been in decline since then.... for how long?

NEW NUMBER: 2037 reinfections! yahoo! boosters!

hospitalizations -283 to 18,629 (3rd day of decline)

.... still not sure on the percentages of 'admitted due to covid' vs 'tested positive after being admitted for something else'... that would be helpful to know.... so of course there's no information available...

ICU: -8 to 1131 (3rd day of decline)

deaths: 31 (25 with comorbidities)

daily deaths (7 day moving average): +9 to 216

PolAmKrakow
13 Feb 2022  #9953

@mafketis
Correct me if I am wrong, but its looking like only 10% of infections are "reinfections" or those from vaccinated demographic. If so, 90% is non vaccinated or previously not infected, or previously not tested and registered as infected.

Novichok
13 Feb 2022  #9954

Bill Gates and George Soros, for example.

...and those who profit from the virus and get a hard-on from being in charge of the rest of us.

mafketis
14 Feb 2022  #9955

Today's numbers (along with occasional helpful context)

21.1 % positive results out of 63,900 tests...

The 7 day moving average of cases peaked on February 02 and has been in decline since then.... for how long?

NEW NUMBER: 1240 reinfections! yahoo! boosters!

hospitalizations +195 to 18,824

.... still not sure on the percentages of 'admitted due to covid' vs 'tested positive after being admitted for something else'... that would be helpful to know.... so of course there's no information available...

ICU: + 6 to 1137

deaths: 17 (14 with comorbidities)

daily deaths (7 day moving average): +1 to 217

Korvinus
14 Feb 2022  #9956

winter

well

Novichok
14 Feb 2022  #9957

A man who puts half of his daughter's bra on his face should not be seen in public. Or be president.

mafketis
15 Feb 2022  #9958

Today's numbers (along with occasional helpful context)

20.1 % positive results out of 108,400 tests...

The 7 day moving average of cases peaked on February 02 and has been in decline since then.... for how long?

NEW NUMBER: 2408 reinfections! yahoo! boosters!

hospitalizations +342 to 19,166

.... still not sure on the percentages of 'admitted due to covid' vs 'tested positive after being admitted for something else'... that would be helpful to know.... so of course there's no information available...

ICU: -45 to 1192

deaths: 378 (292 with comorbidities) interestingly... deaths from omicron only start increasing well after the peak number of infections... what's up with that?

daily deaths (7 day moving average): +2 to 219

Novichok
15 Feb 2022  #9959

Has anyone seen "good for covid virus" on the box of masks? They list dust from Mars, but not the virus. Hmm...

johnny reb
15 Feb 2022  #9960

Have you seen the article about all the knock off N - 95's out there ?

news.yahoo.com/fake-n95-kn95-masks-everywhere-160452506.html

These are the free ones that they are now distributing to America, after the fact.
I took a half dozen just to have something to wear when I am on my riding lawn mower this summer to stop some of the dust and dirt that it blows all over the place.

About 75% of the N - 95's out there are useless counterfeit.
(Ya get what ya pay for)


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