Coronavirus in Poland

You should listen to Dr. Fauci and WHO, instead. They know everything and are never wrong. And they never, even lie.

Yes, they are both very sound on the matter, however I tend to follow the official line from the NHS.

Have a look at the NHS website; it has solid information on health issues, including Covid.

The NFZ in Poland is reliable too.

They both will eventually prosecuted for killing over 7 million people.


Isn't NHS that the Socialist Medical Welfare system in England ?

Fauci is in big trouble come next year. He lied several times to Congress. The virus is now found to be connected to Chinas bio weapons program and Fauci was complicit.


I wonder if he will get some prison time? Its going to be fun next year watching the truth come out in the hearings. The MSM wont be able to bury it anymore. Hahaha

The country is waking up by disobeying masks mandates and not getting booster shots as well. Im not either. The Demorats draconian policies are far worse than the effects of the China virus.

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Now this is just MY OPINION but what I rely on is the local pharmasists that know what drugs are being prescribed most in the local area.

Yesterday I was concerned at my old age of whether to get a flu shot so I ask my pharmacist.
His reply was, "the flu cases in our State are VERY low this year."
Now in Russia the flu rate is VERY HIGH this year.
Putin has escaped to a bunker in the mountains to be quarantined presently.
Covid cases are on the rise in our State so I stay away from crowds and spend my time outside until well after the holidays.

Generally Covid peeks in the middle of January after the holiday gatherings.

Nobody trusts the government anymore. Particularly, the Biden admin as they insist the border is secure. Dont believe your lying eyes, believe Biden.

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They won't.


Welfare? No, we pay for it. Socialist? 37 out of the 38 most developed countries in the world have that or a similar system. In the 38th, people have to pay to see doctors and have to buy medicine.


Sounds like conspiracy woo.

@jon357
Not sounding so much like conspiracy when Fauci admits the virus could have come from a lab. I am no supporter of conspiracy theory but this one is very suspicious and has been from the beginning.

Interestingly, the US just passed a military funding bill and buried within the bill, not getting much attention was the removal of the requirement for military personnel to be vaccinated for COVID. I found that to be just a little more than strange when all these new variants and rising infections are taking place.

@PolAmKrakow
Hardly 'admit', since the CDC have neither suggested that it came from one of their own scientific projects nor was part of any 'weapons programme'. That would be very much outside their remit.

Yes, there are supspicions about the Chinese. No, the head of the CDC has nothing to 'admit'. Their role concerns disease control within their own country; not China, and they are neither military nor spooks.


Yes; there need to be mandatory vaccinations, That army contains plenty of oddballs and it's very possible that some have fallen down the conspiracy rabbit hole and are afraid of normal medical treatment.

Enough credible witnesses to fjirmly place this one in the more than probable category.

news.com.au/world/coronavirus/health/scientist-who-worked-at-wuhan-lab-says-covid-was-manmade-virus/news-story/af6f203ffdf3ac62fa6dd802f631b974

@jon357
If you always believe those in power then there is a problem. They have all been caught lying before. Never trust the government or religion.

@amiga500
I am looking at this very closely. There are reasons why it has not been named after its origin like every other virus, and those are political and economic. There has to be something more to this. Not that it was deliberate, or anything like that, but it is just too coincidental how things have all worked out.

Who said that?

The NHS is nevertheless a particularly trustworthy source on public health matters. The internet is not.

@jon357
I disagree. CDC, NHS, NBA, NFL whatever. The alphabet soup of initials does not mean that any one of them is correct, or telling the truth. Why would we name the Spanish flu Spanish? Or MERS, or any of the other virus we have had over hundred of years? Because they are named for where they originate. Why then was this not called the China flu? Or the Wuhan flu? Why COVID? Just suspicious and there are lots of way to get information, not just internet or spoon fed from government agencies.

Dr. Steven Quay's work on this would contribute the hard science piece to backup the claims of being engineered in a lab. Have you guys read/heard any of his findings and explanations?


But, if an executive within the CDC is directing funds--in this case, taxpayer funds--toward gain-of-function research in a foreign country, then he or she does have something to admit; and, that admission would be admitting to a crime. The evidence provides enough proof that would warrant a full scale investigation. To say one has nothing to admit is premature and most probably incorrect.

The last time I needed a doctor, I waited a day and a half and spent an hour with her and had a repeat appointment the next day. And I've never paid even one penny for medical treatment there.

You, as a geriatric patient, would doubtless be seen quicker.

Hey, jon, do you know why our esteemed doctors lied about covid?
They lied because if a patient had covid the hospital would get more money from the DC parasites.
See how simple life can be if one is not a naive bootlicker?

Ours didn't. There was no need to, since the NHS is financed in a way that makes it important to prevent illness rather than people getting rich from trying to cure it.

There was another reason why the system lied to us: to justify their Gestapo tactics, the lockdowns, the masks, and their orders. Yours did exactly the same thing.

Remember that gulag aka Australia?

Which worked. In a densely populated country, any pandemic is highly dangerous.

Crime is almost zero when everybody is under house arrest. Therefore ... what? It would work...
The main point to remember is how "democracy" is just a bs word. In a democratic country, no single man should have the power to overrule 100% majority minus one. If we collectively decide to live with a pandemic and suffer the consequences - my body, my decision - one person should not be able to win against the collective That's why some red states chopped down on their governors' power to impose their arbitrary decisions. No, there was no "science" behind banning boating on lake Michigan or 6 feet of distancing.

It's low in the UK anyway and public health measures are not about crime, now, are tehe...

They exist to prevent hospitals being swamped, and to prevent essential services such as food supply breaking down.


Fortunately that never happened. So why get worked up about it?


Which we didn't.

It happened here. Covid helped reveal the Hitler-like powers to shut down life we stupidly gave the state governors. And they did.
Did the Australians like their lockdown? Did the Australian Gestapo ask? Did they publish that "science"? I am still waiting for data to justify 6 feet rather than 8 or 10.

It didn't though, did it...


Who?

FDA 'Turned a Blind Eye' to 'Submission of Fraudulent Data' on COVID Vaccine, Says Former Criminal Investigator

worldfreedomalliance.org/au/news/fda-turned-a-blind-eye-to-submission-of-fraudulent-data-on-covid-vaccine-says-former-criminal-investigator/

And the two quotes above are key to calling out the conspiracy rubbish.

Let's keep it simple, jon. Governments lie. Always. Never, even give these parasites the benefit of doubt.

So what, in your opinion, is a reliable and authoritative public health body regarding the recent pandemic?

They were caught lying at every turn. See Fauci and his masks are not necessary and masks are critical.
Or school lockdowns. They lied that it was to protect the kids. At best, it was to protect fat and sick teachers and fu*ck the kids who would suffer from isolation.

Or masks worn by the adults taking care of infants and toddlers and, thus, denying them proper child-adult visual interaction. Or elementary school students on lunch breaks happily running outside - with masks. Try to justify that. Or not being allowed to play tennis in a local park. Or go boating...

All of that so that the parasites can say "we had to do something" regardless of how criminally idiotic it would be. To government parasites, inaction feels like death and they know it.

Ours weren't.


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