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Lyzko
9 Feb 2017  #1231

I know Hillary lost. The question or rather, the issue remains did Trump win WITHOUT Putin's help and if so, will he survive the slings and arrows of responsibility?!

Mz. Don't Know Nothing About Education DeVos will make a mockery of her Office.

TheOther
9 Feb 2017  #1232

You mean when obama was at the helm ?

The Intel plant in Arizona was built a few years ago, but was mothballed when computer sales started to slide. This was also the reason why the company laid off over 12,000 highly skilled employees last year. It had nothing to do with Obama. According to Intel CEO Brian Krzanich, they now consider to finish construction of the fab simply because of "the tax and regulatory policies we see the administration pushing forward. We're building it for our own business reasons". In other words: we do what we want and we'll take your tax breaks, too. Forget about Trump; he had no say in this.

I consciously think you don't honestly believe the bilge you're spewing forth.

Johnny is like his beloved Cheeto Jesus: off his rocker. :)

We've reverted to fifth grade, at best, possibly lower.

The new normal in Dumbfu*ckistan once DeVos has ruined the school system. Slaves for our future high tech industry, the coal mines...

Lyzko
9 Feb 2017  #1233

Amen, brother:-) Johnny's your classic grade school provocateur, polite for "bully"!!

johnny reb
9 Feb 2017  #1234

Mz. Don't Know Nothing About Education DeVos

Google her credentials and back ground and you will find out how dumb you are on the subject.
(As if our education system could possibly get any worse then it is now)
I have to laugh at your pre judging these people before their first day on the job Mr. Know Nothing.
Talk about being a bigot.

Slaves for our future high tech industry, the coal mines...

You better hope so because without them paying in income tax where would the money come from to pay for YOUR welfare benefits.
You guys are not much good to the tax base sittin' in yer parents basement living off dem.

Johnny's your classic

Get use to it whimp cause we don't give a rats patute about yer Political Correctness, yer name calling racist, bully, homophobe, this phobe, that phobe, bigot crap.

Double standards as YOU and the Opposition Party are out on the streets smashing and burning things like real bully's do. lol
Trump hasn't even been in office a month and you two turds are having major meltdowns already.
I can't wait until he starts b*tch slapping you by de-funding your sanctuary cities to the point you have to tighten your belts so tight you won't have time to **** and moan. Ha HA !

Yeah, good names for you two......P*ssa & Moanna. LMAO !
And I'm Lovin' it. :-)

johnny reb
9 Feb 2017  #1235

Johnny's your classic grade school provocateur, polite for "bully"!!

HORRORS !
Johnny Reb just hurt Lyzko's feelings with words ! Boo Hoo Hoo
Get Lyzko to his safe room where no one can hurt him with words.
Put on some low stress music, get him some hot coco and some crayons and a coloring book.
Maybe a dog to pet while he colors.
Then get him a shiny participation trophy for participating with other Snowflakes that melt when they are confronted with reality and Mama is not there to brainwash them with denial to make them feel all better.

Lyzko you are a classic grade school Pathetic Cry Baby.
Time to man up in life son.

Marsupial
9 Feb 2017  #1236

Can't say i see it being aggressive. All this stuff ypu said about bigots and phobes is true, they are the terms usually used as the name calling before anybreal name calling. These people are the same side punching people on cemera and burning stuff on telly in US cities. Thats right clowns, we can see your criminal behaviour across the globe.

Secondly the new administration has had almost no time for anything yet. Stuff they did he promised to do.
The renewables are not going to stop. Its is too late. 2010 was about the last chance. Even little kids write off unqualified science scepticd now. Sceptic means in this case a person who ignores fact. Its full steam ahead now. Also fossil is now more expensive here with 60, 80, 120 bucks for a measure of wind, solar, coal. If Donald inserts more it will raise energy there and reliance on foreign fossil fuel and yes it will be money. He will be priced out quickly though but not quickly enough to lose. I may have mentioned i am buying 2 tesla walls soon? Made in usa, stops exacly the above trump plan. Won't be buying his oil. Would love a tesla car but cant afford it wothout stuffing up family. I will wait for mid life crises, just like the one the entire left wing is having.

Make America great again Trump, build 4 tesla plants employ 1000s of people get rid of arab oil chunk, hell even give jonny a damn job. Please contact me if you want to empoy me. Many thanks!

TheOther
9 Feb 2017  #1237

Please contact me if you want to empoy me. Many thanks!

Here are a few openings for you and Johnny:

"California Farmers Backed Trump, but Now Fear Losing Field Workers"

nytimes.com/2017/02/09/us/california-farmers-backed-trump-but-now-fear-losing-field-workers.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=second-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

Make America great again, or should I say I told you so, Johnny? LOL!

johnny reb
9 Feb 2017  #1238

hell even give jonny a damn job.

I got a job. I am working on my tan today.

but Now Fear Losing Field Workers"

This is all obama's fault for allowing the illegals in in the first place.
You own that one now deal with it.
Being California is the biggest welfare State and Trump cutting off funding to your sanctuary cities some of that dead weight will start going hungry and take those jobs or starve to death.

Excellent plan.
You will find out what it is like to get a blister on your hand and your hoodie dirty.

TheOther
9 Feb 2017  #1239

This is all obama's fault for allowing the illegals in in the first place.

That started way before 2004, Johnny, and the ones to blame are solely the agro businesses, construction companies and greedy corporations like Del Monte. Did you know that over half of all farm workers are illegal immigrants (growers and labor unions put this figure at 70 percent, according to the source below)? You think you'll find enough American high school dropouts willing to work their asses off in the fields? Good luck with that; ain't gonna happen. If Trumps kicks out the illegals, food prices will explode.

"...within industries like construction, agriculture, and hospitality: In recent decades, the high demand for these services and the pressure for keeping their cost low and prices competitive have generated incentives to hire undocumented workers."

thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/foreign-policy/203984-illegal-immigrants-benefit-the-us-economy

Being California is the biggest welfare

Which states rely the most on federal aid once again? Oh, that's right ... the red states. How about you try real facts next time, not CON-way alternative ones?

cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/top-10-states-rely-most-federal-aid

Lyzko
9 Feb 2017  #1240

To paraphrase Marx, "Crybabies of the world unite, all you have to lose are you tears!"

johnny reb
9 Feb 2017  #1241

Oh for crying out loud (pun intended) Lyzko, quit your whining and man up would ya.
I had to hold my nose for the last eight years and stomach your ilk now it's OUR turn or are WE not allowed OUR turn.

Now quit your damn whining.

Marsupial
9 Feb 2017  #1242

You say field workers not there will send some farmers broke. If you require cheap semi slave labour to survive in your business your company is a joke. Close it now and stop pretending you are in business. You are unviable, insolvent and have failed. Better to get a job working for a proper company. I know heaps do it in various industries but thete is no way i would sign up to own such a business. I would offend the person for sure and tell them its not a business and to stop wasting my time and stop refering to their garbage operation as a business.

johnny reb
9 Feb 2017  #1243

You say field workers not there will send some farmers broke.

Yes, the Illegal ones that have entered the U.S.A. illegally.
If they want to enter our country legal on work permits then they are more then welcome.
The Liberal Left wants everyone to think that the Legal foreign workers will not be allowed to come in our country.
If a farmer has to illegally hire illegal workers then he should go broke.
I say cut the food stamp program off and there would be plenty of Americans to fill those jobs to avoid starving.

TheOther
10 Feb 2017  #1244

If you require cheap semi slave labour to survive in your business your company is a joke.

If a farmer has to illegally hire illegal workers then he should go broke.

You guys forget one important factor: a lot of people (and I mean a lot!) in this country are dependent on low prices for food, gas and other goods.

You are unviable, insolvent and have failed.

They hire illegals because they can get away with it - simple as that. In the age of shareholder value and corporate greed: everything that helps the bottom line. If the illegal slave labor isn't available anymore they'll probably pay higher wages, but these additional costs will be passed on to the consumer. This is true for food production, but also for all the cheap crap that is manufactured in China. Bring these manufacturing jobs back to the US and consumer prices will go through the roof. Nice little recession guaranteed, because no company will ever accept a profit cut if it doesn't have to.

Close it now and stop pretending you are in business.

Tell that Del Monte...

there would be plenty of Americans to fill those jobs

There are, but there's hardly an American who will take a dirty job that pays only minimum wage (or less) and requires hard labor.

johnny reb
10 Feb 2017  #1245

there's hardly an American who will take a dirty job that pays only minimum wage

That's my point, when government subsidies are available for free why would these welfare f*cks work.
Cut off the government subsides leaving them with the choice of working or starving.
We are tired of supporting their lazy asses.
Make America Great Again !

Marsupial
10 Feb 2017  #1246

I am sorry to say but there is no doubt the usa cannot control its own borders at the moment. Also it hasn't for some time

Marsupial
10 Feb 2017  #1247

@ the other....yes New York is mega expensive. So is Sydney. Both are full on city life, i am not into that anymore and lucky to no longer need to live in the city to work. Not sure how younger people are supposed to get a house next to work for those insane prices?

johnny reb
10 Feb 2017  #1248

That was my point, neither Lyzko or TheOther own a home so they pay no property taxes which support the school systems.
They are both typical Liberals that enjoy spending other peoples money.
My theory has always been if you are not paying taxes to support and pay for something then you should not be allowed to vote on that proposition.

Did you see where the Liberals (The Opposition Party) are threatening to take their kids out of Public Schools and home school them ?
They are crying that Betsy DeVos was appointed head of education and are protesting. lol
Good, that means all the liberal cry baby pain in the ass kids will be taken out of the public schools and the kids that want to excel will have a chance to do just that by not being held up with "Political Correctness."

This is getting better by the day. :-)

Lyzko
10 Feb 2017  #1249

It's become less a question of arcane political correctness, as much as it has of just sheer COMPETENCE!! The woman knows nothing about the field, by her own admission!!!

We don't want novices, we want and need experts:-)

By the way, The Tweeter-in-Chief just got his first major setback in court. Keep 'em comin!

johnny reb
10 Feb 2017  #1250

We don't want novices, we want and need experts:-)

I guess you didn't take my advise.

Google her credentials and back ground and you will find out how dumb you are on the subject.

The losers that have been in there for the last 8 years have trashed our school systems so DeVos starting at the bottom has no place to go but up.

Why you keep spewing such B.S. propaganda is typical cry baby Liberal whining.
You aren't going to be happy with anyone that Trumps appoints, face it.
You have your closed mind made up because you are not getting your way nor will you.
This shows by condemning ALL of Trumps appointees before there first day in office so how the f*ck do you have any idea what kind of performance they are capable of ?

You can't, you just want to stomp your feet and whine because they are not your choice.
Have you any idea how you are acting like a three year old Lyzko.
Your mission is not to make America Great Again, your mission is to make it as hard as you can for our leaders to make America Great Again.

Very immature and unAmerican.
All I can say is that it is time for you to go pound some sand.
We are very tired of listening to your crying.

johnny reb
10 Feb 2017  #1251

The Tweeter-in-Chief just got his first major setback in court. Keep 'em comin!

Oh right, like it is a done deal. lol
No son, you haven't looked at the big picture on banning the Muzzy's have you.
QUESTION: If someone is KILLED by a Muslim from One of the Seven Countries named in the Executive Order... Does that Citizens Relations/Relatives have "standing" to SUE 'either or Both' of the States Attorney - Generals for "AIDING & ABETTING" ?

The Felony Murder of their Loved - ONE ????
Good Question !
Yet OBLOWME issued the very SAME ban on Any & All Iraqis coming into the U.S.... for a 6 month period; no squalling then !
I think the time for another Kent University is nearing.

Lyzko
10 Feb 2017  #1252

Like the Bohemian Corporal, Trump threatens to make America GREAT, but Americans small!
Take a lesson from history, pal, you and Maf and a few others here who seem to be singing their swan songs to a defunct liberal democracy which they're either to young (or in your case, Johnny, too dense) to understand as well as appreciate.

Most of the anti-New Dealers in this country fall into several categories: either aged refugees from formerly Faschist countries (like Nazi Germany or Communist Russia), who shudder in their boots at the thought of the continued intervention of "Big Boogeyman Government" in their lives. Or, they're of the Scott Walker ilk, fourty-something no-nothings with a typically slick, brain-dead presentation which appeals to the simple minded among us:-)

There seems little in between.

johnny reb
10 Feb 2017  #1253

Like the Bohemian Corporal, Trump

You don't know the difference between a Corporal and the Commander and Chief ? lol
You sure don't want to debate the issues that I present because Liberals can't debate facts.

By the way, The Tweeter-in-Chief just got his first major setback in court. Keep 'em comin!

That court (the 9th Circuit Court) has an 80% of appeals over turned.
Wanna bet this one is too.
I say by next week at the earliest so what kind of setback are you talking about ?
Face it, Trump is steam rolling the Oppsition Party.

Most of the anti-New Dealers in this country

Why do you keep referring to the Industrial Revolution that is long over with and never to return.
Turn the page Lyzko and search for a new defense as the New Deal is long outdated.
I think I have pointed this out to you a couple of dozen times now.

brain-dead presentation which appeals to the simple minded among us:-)

Exactly, you seem to be brain dead as you refuse to admit to reality.
If you insist on wallowing in a pointless merry go around again with the New Deal that took place a 100 years ago (figuratively speaking) then lets put it in perspective.

Some of the Democrats (The Opposition Party) refused to attend Lincoln's Inauguration, too.....because they also didn't want to end slavery.
LESS GOVERNMNT Lyzko, not more government.
You are scared sh*tless that Trump will succeed making America Great Again.
The Dems (The Opposition Party) are very desperate because thy know they are done forever.
WE will make America Great Again with or without your kind.

Lyzko
10 Feb 2017  #1254

Again, you can't "turn the page" on human suffering, and secondly, ignoramus that you are, missed my analogy with Hitler ("The Bohemian Corporal" as he was mockingly referred to at the time!!) and Trump:-)

Your whole lousy generation thinks it can simply flip a page and Great Depression, Bank Panic of 1898(?), Hoover's Do-Nothing politics etc. will just be consigned to the distant past; IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY, JOHNNY, IT NEVER DID!!!

The past is present and the future is present, it's a continuum, just as Santayana warned.

TheOther
10 Feb 2017  #1255

Not sure how younger people are supposed to get a house next to work for those insane prices?

Wages are naturally much higher in places like NYC or the Bay Area for example. Still, people are often forced to move into the burbs or even further away to find affordable housing. Which is a problem in itself because of the lack of public transport in this country (imagine living in the Blue Mountains and having to commute to downtown Sydney every day by car). If you want to be where the well paying jobs are, you'll also have to be prepared for sky high cost of living. Which essentially eats up the higher wages you earn. Catch 22.

rambling

Hey, can someone bring Johnny his medication or at least his crack pipe, please? LOL!

TheOther
10 Feb 2017  #1256

sky high cost of living

Apart from rent or mortgage, I meant.

Marsupial
11 Feb 2017  #1257

@the other.....plenty of people do commute that far. Wages have not grown compared to living costs at all. It's not just the money, its the traffic, frustration and everything. Our government has no clue. You have the same problem there. I am not sure that Trump can actually recerse any of that or indeed anyone.

TheOther
11 Feb 2017  #1258

I am not sure that Trump can actually recerse any of that or indeed anyone.

That's simply impossible in my eyes. You cannot reverse the effects of globalization by reopening coal mines. You cannot overcome the rule of the shareholder value. You will not be able to add old-style manufacturing jobs when you're up against automation and worldwide competition. You will not solve the problem with illegal slave labor as long as people are depending on low food prices and at the same time expect everything from iPhones to salad bowls to be dirt cheap.

The only way out is technological progress and education, but tell that some of these dumbass Trump voters. They cheer when King Twitler appoints a bimbo, who thinks that private religious schools are the ultimate solution, as Secretary of Education.

Our government has no clue.

Is Turnbull really that bad?

Marsupial
11 Feb 2017  #1259

Thats why i am sceptical about talking in terms of economic blocks within society. It is when the times are good that people need to switch. When rhe mining boom was on those who didn't realise it would not last didnt do much with the money, like out entire state of WA. The best way these days is to get ready for the future is to always advance. So as a miner for example i would enrol in part time study in something else. There are endless anount of examples for this.

That is how you avoid being one of the people 'forgotten by their government.' Left behind by made up words like globalization. Ha ha its funnny. because the same word still applies since day zero on earth to all living things.

Competition!

johnny reb
11 Feb 2017  #1260

rambling

Where did you find that quote or did you make it up ?
Are you that desperate that you have to make up lies Kangaroo Boy. lol

IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY, JOHNNY, IT NEVER DID!!!

WRONG LYZKO, THAT WAS THEN AND THIS IS NOW !
WHAT PART OF THAT CAN'T YOU GET !

Your whole lousy generation

My generation and the generations before me would be horrified to see all that they worked so hard for be destroyed by YOUR generation to the point of no return.

They would puke.
They sacrificed so much to build America into the most successful Country this world has ever known only to have it destroyed by YOU the Socialist Liberal Marxist and your Progressive Thinking.

I hate to tell you son but it is to late to turn back from the destruction you have done by big government and your welfare programs.

You have put America in debt so far that we will never get out.
The economy is going to crash which will effect the whole world and there is no stopping it.
You can't spend your way out of debt you idiots.
Trump is our last hope and you better catch on quick or YOU WILL SUFFER from your own stupidity.
You have lost doing it your way and have destroyed America and you are to blind to see it.
It's game over no matter who is president kids.
Just hide and watch.

who thinks that private religious schools are the ultimate solution

It is ya stupid ass, look what your group has done to the education system since Jesus was taken out of our schools.
Hasn't worked real great for you without Jesus has it, in fact it has become a laughing stock to the world.
Go back where you came from as we don't want your kind here.


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