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Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees



Polonius3
8 May 2017  #3001

Muslim migrants.

Hey Crow - I never thought anybody in Poland would buy into your line of reasoning, but there is always an exception to prove the rule. Here is something that should warm your "Sarmatian" heart:

niezalezna.pl/98357-jak-nas-krwawym-spial-wedzidlem-zdrajca-z-azjatyckim-bydlem-odradza-sie-sarmacja

Crow
8 May 2017  #3002

I told you.

Dirk diggler
9 May 2017  #3003

Poland has already accepted over a million refugees. I guess Ukrainians fleeing war and poverty don't count though...

So sick of this discussion Poland has aalready accepted way more refugees and economic migrants than the eu asked than to. I guess since they're white Europeans that assimilate they don't count as refugees though.

nothanks
9 May 2017  #3004

ITALIAN REPORTER ATTACKED BY MIGRANTS ON LIVE TV

The attacker was later identified as a 37-year-old from the Ivory Coast with no documents or residence permit who authorities had ordered deported back in September last year.

youtube.com/watch?v=-yy3fPhcUUo

jon357
9 May 2017  #3005

ATTACKED BY MIGRANTS ON LIVE TV

Fake news, staged film, doing the rounds of the usual suspects like Alex Jones website and Breitbart.

nothanks
9 May 2017  #3006

Someone has to report what is occurring on the ground level while BBC and CNN are busy covering the Ivory Tower

Whether staged or not - the migrant exists. He is at best loitering illegally. Why wasn't he deported?

mafketis
9 May 2017  #3007

Fake news

You don't like it =/= fake

jon357
9 May 2017  #3008

Whether staged or not

That does actually matter.

TheOther
9 May 2017  #3009

So sick of this discussion Poland has aalready accepted way more refugees and economic migrants...

The countries which actually started the whole mess in the Middle East and North Africa should take their fair share, too. Europe gets punished for the global meddling of a few.

nothanks
9 May 2017  #3010

That does actually matter.

Are you accusing authorities of staging a fake attack to blackmail an illegal?

Crow
9 May 2017  #3011

How much EU ruling establishment had to be stupid to decide to play ping-pong with Poland. Let me tell you- a lot of.

Dirk diggler
9 May 2017  #3012

Poland let in over a million Ukrainians fleeing war and poverty. Are they not considered refugees or at least migrants seeking a better life? It seems almost as if the specific eu directive is to take in Muslim and African migrants...

No matter how u look at it Poland is helping over a million Ukrainians fleeing war and poverty. That is such bs that other countries are dictating who to take in how many etc after we've already displayed our hospitality to the Ukrainians. Also there's a sizeable Chechen commu ity in poland.

I hope that the eu falls apart and countries like poland hungary Slovakia czechy serbia Romania the Baltics etc etc form its own east euro version of the eu. Eastern Europe is a powerhouse now esp poland the Baltics czechy and Hungary.

I wouldn't even mind closer ties with Putin's Russia. At least he promotes and protects the Christian family unit.

jon357
10 May 2017  #3013

Are you accusing authorities of staging a fake attack

No authorities involved. Just someone bothering homeless people at night, reported only by questionable online sources.

And nothing to do with Poland, either.

TheOther
10 May 2017  #3014

Eastern Europe is a powerhouse now

Dream on. What do you think your "powerhouse" will look like without funding from the EU and without foreign companies investing in the region?

I hope that the eu falls apart

If Trump continues like this, it's the US that will fall apart, not the EU.

Dirk diggler
10 May 2017  #3015

Poland alone has a 500 bil nominal GDP. Its a larger GDP than Netherlands Belgium and around the same level as Sweden. Add the Slavic countries service economies and Russia's military might and natural reserves and wed be set. I have a bachelors degree international business and globalism would still bring in plenty of money to poland.

Also the fact is poland is now a net payee to the eu not a recipient.

TheOther
10 May 2017  #3016

Poland alone has a 500 bil nominal GDP

And? Without foreign investments in Poland, how would your GDP actually look?

Also the fact is poland is now a net payee to the eu not a recipient.

businessinsider.com/brexit-eu-members-net-contributions-and-net-funding-2016-12

peterweg
10 May 2017  #3017

Russian Agent emulates Nixon

telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/09/donald-trump-fires-fbi-director-james-comey1

Dirk diggler
10 May 2017  #3018

Foreign investments would barely change. Do you see Britain going broke because they left the eu? Are Russians starving becAuse of economic sanctions? I can tell you Mobil is still in Russia and now the Russians in novorossiya just got their pensions doubled now that Crimea is back in Russian hands. Even the shopping malls in Iran look nicer than those in Midwest us. For Christ sakes even gm was in Venezuela till maduro appropriated the factory. I've spent my college and post college years working for publicly traded corporations and studying international business. Companies do what's called a swot analysis and even in that hypothetical situation companies would still invest if they feel they can turn a profit. Corporations are everywhere even war torn Iraq.

Yes there would be a brief period of adjustment but if it means more sovereignty and less eu commisars dictating what our elected officials should be doing then I'm all for it.

As long as Poland remains a sovereign Catholic country with Jesus as our king and a population that is homogenous I could care less what really happens. As long as wroclaw doesn't end up looking like marseilles I could care less.

Marsupial
10 May 2017  #3019

Uk have not yet left the eu. Yes they are already going broke in currency and many other wways and yes those of us who invest will not be investing there in the isolated uk. Yes many of their sectors will be destroyed and made totally uncompetitive. None of the serious stuff has started but already the shockwaves are starting. Russia is a broke filthy hole if someone doubled their pension it means they had one worthless turd and now have two. I dont believe you have any education otherwise you would know about the crumbling craphole that is the uk. Another poser.

cms
10 May 2017  #3020

This is a thread about refugees - there is another general thread for your barmy theories about leaving the EU.

I also spent my college years working for public corporations - pumping gas for Chevron, wiping floors at KFC and washing dishes at Waffle House - did not make me smarter.

Wouldn't Jesus, King of Poland, want to accept genuine refugees ? Especially Christian ones ? Didn't Syria and Iran take in Polish refugees during the war ?

mafketis
10 May 2017  #3021

Wouldn't Jesus, King of Poland, want to accept genuine refugees ? Especially Christian ones ?

Poland tried that already and almost all of them left for Germany within a week... The only reason to send them to Poland is damage control PR for leaders like Merkel and Macron (sounds like the national dish of some obsscure European country...) What is in that for Poland precisely?

Polonius3
10 May 2017  #3022

@Crow
It's still the exception. Will it ever be the rule?

Dirk diggler
10 May 2017  #3023

Again we've already taken in a million refugees/migrants. Enough is enough. Poland is tapped. Go to Saudi Bahrain Qatar or israel. Ah that's a novel idea the Zionists love to dictate what Europeans should do in their country. Why isn't anyone calling for Israel to open its gates to hordes of Africans and Muslims. No they build walls to keep an out and sadly sterilized Ethiopian (black) Jews then kicked em out.

cms
10 May 2017  #3024

Poland has taken migrants, not refugees. The number is less than 1 million.

Maf I agree that there is little sense for the EU to push this point until there is sensible border control - they don't want to come to Poland, It will lose political capital and it appears that the civil societies in Hungary and Poland are not yet mature enough to support the idea of solidarity. This clown spouting about Zionism and Christian family units is a prime example of that immaturity.

But this refusal should not be dressed up as Christianity - which teaches the precise opposite. Rather it is bigotry and self interest.

Dirk diggler
10 May 2017  #3025

Over 1 million work visas for issued to newly arrived ukranians. Many are from the east. You realize donetsk is one of the largest citiesnukraine.

These ukranians refugees migrants whatever u want to call them are oftentimes fleeing because their homes were shelled. How can you tell a little Ukrainian girl from donetsk or luhansk she's not a refugee when been home was destroyed and family and friends have been killed.

It has been statement by numerous sources that only about 25% of these refugees/migrants that are coming into France Germany Sweden etc are from Syria. The rest are from neighboring countries like Bangladesh, Iraq, afghanistan. The majority of black refugees/migrants are also not Eritrean which isn't even at war its just a poor authoritarian country of5en referred to as the north Korea of Africa. Many are from Ghana Benin Nigeria Tunisia Libya Egypt. Tgeres also a significant number or Europeans from rhe poorer Balkan states like Kosovo resetting in Germany or elsewhere in western Europe.

The point is that all the refugees that are coming to Europe yes some are fleeing war but most are fleeing poverty. With the ukranian migration its the same. I bet right now there's a family from Kiev and another family from donestk coming into poland as I write this that are either being processed, resettled, and assimilating. The donestsk family is most likely fleeing war while thebkiev family migrated for economic reasons. Its the same with the Muslims and Africans - for every 1 Syrian there'll be 3 bangladeshis, kosovars, nigerians, etc.

Poland has fulfilled its obligation on the world stage plenty its one of the fee countries that honor their NATO commitments and pay up. We have taken in a lot of Ukrainians and Chechen now too which I have no problem with as long as they assimilate which they tend to do so.

Again that are plenty of wealthy gulf nations with a far more similar culture religion language etc than poland. Lebanon turkey and Jordan have taken in a lot already especially Lebanon for its means.s

Countries like Bahrain Saudi uae Qatar Oman are all wealthy and assimilation would be far smoother. Hhowever many chose Ger many Sweden etc because of the generous benefits. Even the majority of Muslim Arab migrants who were settled in poland and czechy but they just end up leaving for Germany or Sweden eventually anyway.

If I were say an Afghan or Nigerian or Syrian and fleeing war and or poverty poland certainly wouldn't be my top pick.

gregy741
10 May 2017  #3026

Poland has taken migrants, not refugees. The number is less than 1 million.

EU wants to relocate migrants not refugees
but EU want to enforce relocation of immigrants not refugees as well.vast majority of those so called refugees dont qualify for this status.most are economic immigrants and army conscription dodgers from syria.only less than 3% of those immigrants are refugees.

since we acceptem our share of economical immigrants from Ukraine(no a single drop of solidarity from EU here) we have no further obligations.

jon357
10 May 2017  #3027

relocation of immigrants not refugees as well

Excellent.

no a single drop of solidarity from EU here

Now you know that's untrue...

Dirk diggler
10 May 2017  #3028

The Zionist thing is the truth its no different than a pole acting in self interest or as I would say Machiavellian/48 laws of power/art of war type politics.

Israel granted 1 asylum application I believe in eitherb2015 or 2016. The Zionists don't want to take in migrants and they're too busy bulldozing Palestinian homes and creating settlements specifically for European Jews to make aliyah.

Ill have you know that I am not anti Semitic and even my gf is Jewish. Many orthodox Jews like netuya Carta or however its spelled oppose Zionism. Israel has a right to exist and a right to do things in its own self interest. Such is the same with poland.

cms
10 May 2017  #3029

They are not all here at the same time - the number is about 500.000.

The number of homeless children from Donetsk claiming asylum is tiny. The vast majority are able bodied, young people working in bars, factories, warehouses etc. They are migrants - just the same as the Poles in London or Koln are.

gregy741
10 May 2017  #3030

err,you lost me here.. so whatta you want? so you saying that Ukrainians work and pay taxes therefore thay cant be included in EU immigration quotas,cus they dont rape and live on stat benefits.and thats why Poland should accept rapists and terrorists living on state walfare from Africa?as a act of solidarity? is that what you mean?


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