Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees

One of the only pis policies i support. Letting in hordes for centuries of usa, uk, french and whoever's elses meddling in the middle east is not on. Merkels mistake is just the latest, she had little to do with the cause.

What is it with Germany ?

Two world wars and now disintegration of Western culture inside Europe all within the space of 100 years !

1.5 million refugees/ migrants - ultimately caused by wars started by the US and Britain - were overrunning Greece and Italy, and Germany was trying to help. Divide that number by (at that time) 28 EU members, and you woud've ended up with roughly 54000 people per member state. No problem. That's what Merkel was naively counting on - solidarity of the EU to help two (or three) other members out. Didn't happen. Instead the Germans are now blamed for taking Europe down once again. But hey, as we all know, most European nations are only in it for the money anyway. Who needs friends?

Why? Australian solution comes to mind. That would make the problem go away. Who wanted to spice things up and do a bad thing to Europe. Certain people with money, influence and commie ideology. Few names come to mind. Hey they are your ideologically comrades. Let point finger at you.

What's with Germany??!

Are you mad? Read the papers at all?

I agree. They shouldn't have let these people in. Some border control would've also been helpful.


The whole problem was caused by hawkish, right wing politicians of the US and Britain in the first place. Your ideological friends, so let's rather point the finger at you...

How did the US or Britain start the Syrian war? I must have missed that... Not to mention that a very large majority of those actually arriving in Europe were not Syrian (and Iraqis and Afghanis are just as much to blame for the sorry state of their failed states as any outside meddlers are).


Pull the other one. That dithering mental case Merkel was all set to stop them at the German border and then she lost her nerve because.... she's a mental case. She then went around asking other countries to help cover for her famous lack of nerve and resolve.

Sorry not buying it.

Go further east until you reach a country called Iraq. Then travel to the southwest until you arrive in Egypt and Libya. WMD and Arab Spring ring a bell?


What sounds more plausible? A crazy Merkel with an evil plan to bring down western civilization, or a naive Merkel trying to help out?

well,US helped to facilitate condition for an armed uprising.but
there were 2 operation rooms created at the beginning of this conflict..one in Turkey and one in Jordan.in order to move foreign fighters and coordinate rebellion.train fighters ect.

its more like,US withdraw from middle east and left that geopolitics to its allies(SA,Turkey,gulf states and israel)they were the ones mainly responsible for this war.US giving full media support and make money by providing weapons training and munition.

Qatar is mainly responsible for starting Syria war,and arming rebels,the other joined later.

there are reports of massive movement of Syrian refugees coming back to Syria.Turkey opened 2 border crossing for Syrians returning home.
twitter.com/wszewko/status/876456186459062272
and according to frontex only less that 5% of so called "refugees" are Syrians. the rest are economic immigrants from asia and africa.
Poland has no obligation to allow to settle economic immigrants from those countries.we have plenty from Ukraine.
looks like Polands line of arguments is correct.help those refugees rebuild their infrastructure as they already willing to go back home.and deport illegal immigrants from Africa..

EU idiocy exposed,real refugees coming back home thanks to Assad securing his country...only fraud cockroaches flooding Europe

Unfortunately, one problem with Schengen was the failure to implement a Schengen Border Control at the same time that would have been responsible for securing the external border. The problem with Greece in particular refusing to accept help would have been avoided then.

How? The problem wasn't external border control per se, but the fact that thousands of people that Europe has no need for were/are determined to arrive and the antiquated and outdated laws just help them.


All an external Schengen sent to Greece would have accomplished was bringing in more pseudo-refugees more quickly. The laws are broken and until they're changed the hordes will be at the gate (as it were).

Well we see the results of this in uk and usa and in censored pseudo democracy of sweden. Here in Australia they say once a week ' we foiled an attack'. Failed experiment from hell. Don't let them in! After poland lets them in and they leave and cause carnage next door the blame will also be shifted back to poland. The solution is not to treat the disease, it's to never catch it in the first place.

What is your point ?

For starters, she's still the powerhouse engine of Europe's economy, like her or not:-)

Well rather merkel is the leader of Europe's economic powerhouse but I wouldn't necessarily say she herself is the engine driving the powerhouse. Sure she shapes policies and all but there's much out of her control.

I can't argue with that statement but the thing is........I wasn't arguing that point anyway !

I was making the point that one country i.e. Germany has spawned two world wars and now in peacetime are intent on flooding Europe with migrants who have no legal right to enter Europe. When the media and governments start using the terms "migrants" and "refugees" as if the two are inter-changeable then you know we have REAL problems ahead of us.

Well us was built w migrants of all kinds. I think it just needs to be handled appropriately but the numbers and changes that come with a large migration should be constantly studied, analysed, debated, etc. When Germany had migrations of poles Turks Romanians Russians etc the ppl complained but eventually saw it as a net benefit. Back then though there weren't so many terrorist attacks in the 70s 80s 90s n the ones that did exist were mainly by right and left groups like black September and also ppl hijacking planes in iron curtain countries and flying to w germany or some democratic euro country.

You also have to understand that many Germans today have a sort of worldview of helping ppl, not being selfish, a tad socialist etc. Of course not all Germans are like that but a good portion of them are. Its not that they're any better or worse just a different view.

These are the people that Merkel wants out of Germany and into Poland, we can all see why she wants rid of them.

Can anyone here tell me why these high risk migrants should be let into Poland.

Woman, 28, is 'raped nine times by three asylum seekers who filmed the brutal attack on her mobile phone after ambushing her at a town fair in Germany'

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4620972/Hungarian-woman-28-raped-asylum-seekers-Germany.html#ixzz4kYpARzGd

The migrants who helped build America largely came across legally with paperwork. The migrants I am talking about are coming across illegally but we are granting them quasi-legal status when they arrive just because they had the brass balls to try. That can't be right.

I understand that Germany has an inherent guilt complex and if they want to be a haven for migrants from around the world then I have no problem. The truth however is that Germany is the driving force behind the European federation and are applying pressure to other EU states to also take in migrants not to mention the fact that the EU has open borders practically anyway so migrants in Germany are free to apply to live in other EU states too.

In fact very few had any sort of paperwork or for that matter literacy. Most also had to be deloused, had very different value systems to the earlier settlers (not to mention the native population) and most were fleeing poverty.

I am not going to victim blame in this scenario. But in many of these cases Western and Northern women are very gullible - engaging in conversation or even following/joining strange ethnic men to flats/hotels.

Regardless of the circumstances that lead to a rape , when a women says no , IT MEANS NO.

Yes, it's one reason why Americans have such strange surnames, because they were often unable to write their own names and were relying on the immigration officer to spell it for them. There's actually a lot of parallels between the emigration to America up until WW1 and the current crisis.

They came on ships-were they not on the shipping manifest ??

Germany's changing her tune as well, Spritus ol' man, don't you worry!

Only 54,000 people per member state, huh? No problem, you say?

You obviously never heard of chain migration and the routine abuse of Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights by so-called refugees.

Article 8 - Right to respect for private and family life

1. Everyone has the right to respect for his private and family life, his home and his correspondence.

2. There shall be no interference by a public authority with the exercise of this right

Now, case in point - Germany:

Muslim Migrant with Four Wives and 23 Children Receives $390,000 a Year in Benefits


breitbart.com/london/2016/10/26/germany-muslim-migrant-four-wives-23-children-receives-390000-year-benefits


No, it's the economic migrants who are only in it for the money. They don't need friends either especially when they each got huge population-replacement level families and legions of Soros' Eurocrat drones willing to let them bleed Europe dry.

I doubt that many of them had any sort of proof of identity, any other written document or were even able to sign their name.

Hi all, newbie here!!!! I just wanted to drop in and say this. Sorry for being off-topic, i'll be brief...

I'm half Polish of Kashubian stock from my moms side and i just wanted to say that when i see Poland standing up to Brussels and Germany that it fills with me pride to have ancestors from Poland.

My grandparents came to Canada as children after ww2 (didn't know each other at the time) and the verbal history i heard and learned as a child from them had shaped my life to this day. Poland has every right to stay Polish and the elites in Western Europe need to back down and learn that they don't and control Poland.

I spent 2 months in Poland before and it has honestly been my most favourite country to visit, and i've been to 30 countries.

You have the suppourt of the Polish Diaspora here in Ontario!!!!

Keep at it guys and keep your country safe!!!

Yes they did. America was industrializing and needed the labor to support it. Approximately 25 million people emigrated from across Europe to America last century. Although reasons to leave Europe obviously varied clearly the ability to do so was well organized from regularly scheduled passenger ships leaving Europe to established immigration centers at the arrival ports of entry.

So it is simply buffoonish for anyone to claim that European migrants were illiterate, undocumented, and simply showed up unannounced.

There were jobs in the Americas. Industry needed them. The American and other government were onboard with this and facilitated it. Why didn't Europe stop the people leaving? Because there was actually a surplus of labor in Europe and there was money to be made as well from the passenger companies.

Remittances are not new and migrants to the Americas often sent money back to relatives (usually elderly parents) who stayed behind.

And the migrants were skilled. Very skilled. Countries like America, Canada and even Brazil and Argentina could never have expanded and rapidly built their cities and infrastructure if their migrants were a bunch of morons. In fact, many trades like intricate masonry, embroidery, woodcarving, etc. are now mostly lost skills in America. That sort of talent was originally brought over from Europe.

And since immigrant countries like America didn't have any state provided social safety nets at the time of mass migration from Europe it was clearly a case of only the most talented being able to survive and provide for their offspring. Unlike today where migrants are attracted to handouts and no questions asked tax avoidance for any work they decide to do. Migrants who left Europe in the last century however pretty much knew what they were getting into but were willing to accept the challenges ahead of them.

And it is a complete myth started and perpetuated by Anglocentric bigots that migrants couldn't even spell their names. Most migrants were schooled, literate, and could even do maths. Obviously not in English though. The problem therefore was when the migrants encountered English speaking immigration officials (virtually all of them with ancestry from the British Isles) who were completely ignorant of and disrespectful if not outright hostile towards other ethnic groups. That is why so many non-English speaking migrants and their descendants today (especially Poles) had their names mangled or complete changed so the English speaking majority and its officialdom at the time could be accommodated and not feel threatened.

Any name with too many consonants and more than two syllables left the English speaking Anglophile Americans and Canadians slurring and stammering as they attempted and failed to pronounce immigrant names properly and respectfully. Being too dumb and proud to learn they just bullied immigrants into conforming to their overly simplistic and boring Jane Brown and Bob Smith monikers.