Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees

Well I wouldn't fire normally but when there are 1000s invading yes I would but only once since no more would come after that.

Here's an interesting article on it:


wsj.com/articles/poland-says-it-will-accept-more-refugees-than-previously-promised-1441054277


a. No you wouldn't
b. Nobody's 'invading'
c. You and your machine gun would not deter even one person

Ofcourse I would, muslim trash means nothing to me. Just because you are soft......means nothing to me.

" Well I wouldn't fire normally but when there are 1000s invading yes I would but only once since no more would come after that "

for someone who lives as an invader in a land of murder and repression that is quite amusing.

Most people would consider people from foreign countries, who invade other peaceful countries, by cutting border fences or hiding in lorries to gain access, without a passport or visa "illegal immigrants" . It is only if they are granted political asylum, that they become legal. Perhaps changing the title to "asylum seekers" would be more fitting?

Yes it is amusing. Hope you are not talking about the abbos there because I am a supporter of their cause. Secondly if china or one if the other countries came here first there would have been total genocide. Thirdly drunk useless bum natives get more from government than polish workers for free. So back to your tent to read facts again.

Yes would be more fitting. Also the word refugees would be fitting.

I doubt it will Jon

The PM will be out on her arse when PO lose the election and PiS won't do diddly to help.
Crying shame. But then again, Poland has form in matters like this.

Is she unpopular there? Didnt know that.

Yes, they are illegal, although they are miserable creatures who just escape wartime horrors in Syria or Iraq. If they were legal why should the UK block their entry to the paradise from one side of the tunnel and France should block it from the other. May a legal immigrant not cross the Channel freely and in some relative comfort from one side of La Manche to the other rather than hiding themselves in a lorry?

None have entered Poland illegally at the moment, so far as we know, however the new thread title is much better.


Sadly yes, however the scale of the issue means this issue is just going to grow this year and probably next - they just won't be able to duck it (no pun intended) and there will be a lot of quacking.


Using phrases like "muslim trash" is a direct invitation to people to refer to you as "polish trash". There are some unfortunates in this world who use phrases like that. If that's how you really feel, consider if by an accident of birth you had to flee for your life with your kids. An 'open door' immigration policy is one thing. Behaving decently to our fellow humans is another. I for one prefer Poland to do the right thing.

I'm not as optimistic as you I'm afraid Jon. Poland continues to duck their environmental duties, if her politicians don't care about that I doubt they care much for war refugees.

Germany is the only country doing the decent thing.
Yea, that might be coz they have guilt issues when it comes to WWII, but Poland should show some compassion. Poles have been welcomed into Western society since the EU border fell, why can't they share the love?

But sure look, it's not exactly like Poland were helpful to even her own citizens after WWII, so they have form in this.

Perhaps you're right. It will just end up making the next regime (if PiS win) look a bigger laughing stock and incur odium from the press in countries who take a much bigger share of the refugees. Parallels can (and certainly will) be drawn with the large Polish influx to those countries.


Yes. To say they can cope with 800,000 is amazing.

What amazes me is that a bunch of these people can jut run across the border or go to rail station.....that is the most pathetic border security I have ever seen. Countries with no border security of any worth.....fail.

Would you care to go into detail about that happening in Poland? As far as I'm aware (from Frontex reports) in Q1 2015 there were a total of 15 persons detected illegally crossing Poland's land border, most of whom were smuggling.

People trying to cross the border illegally should be simply shot. That's the common sense approach, a dozen or two would get killed and it's over, otherwise thousands will die trying to reach Europe and thousands more in result of those people being allowed into Europe. All in the name of multi-culti madness.

"It will just end up making the next regime (if PiS win) look a bigger laughing stock and incur odium from the press in countries who take a much bigger share of the refugees."

I'm sure all the Polish voters are shocked hearing that and so they will make the "correct" choice. Oh wait :))))))

By the way, it doesn't really matter that much how many "refugees" the Kopacz villager is going to "accept", they will be in Germany within days anyway :)))

These arabs are distabilizing germany and bringing the right wing out. Polands biggest trading partner and neighbour. Merkel is out of touch time for someone new.

" People trying to cross the border illegally should be simply shot. That's the common sense approach, a dozen or two would get killed and it's over, otherwise thousands will die trying to reach Europe and thousands more in result of those people being allowed into Europe. All in the name of multi-culti madness."

For God's sake, Europe is now facing the biggest population movement since WW2 and a vast majority of people trying to get into Europe are war refugees, women and children. Times have moved on since only a month ago, and it is time for attitudes to change as well.

If you want the job of standing at the border, shooting babies and their mothers, go ahead.
It is nothing to do with 'multi culti' madness, this is a massive humanitarian disaster.
If you are not sure what 'humanitarian' means, check in a dictionary.

Coutries have the right to defend their borders. Apparently. Someone needs to make an example.

I thought this thread was about refugees and not smugglers Harry. So 15 people got caught, have you any account of those who might have slipped through the net and didn't appear on the radar? My guess is, no you haven't.

yes I agree but the effects in terms of refugee population are the most serious since WW2.

@Vincent, does ANYONE know how many people slipped under the radar? Is there even a radar to start with? Poland entered the borderless Schengen zone to simplify and speed up the movement of people and goods between member states. Like everything else in life, it has its positive and negative aspects.

Really? So why did you post about people "who invade other peaceful countries". Refugees do not invade places; if anything refugees are what are produced by invasions.


Well, one could look at the number of times the Polish border guard reported finding cut fences and didn't apprehend anybody. I seem to remember reading that the total number of such cases in Q1 2015 was zero.

However, even if somebody did cut a border fence in order to get into Poland, that doesn't make them an illegal immigrant. Perhaps you'd like to read a little Polish law before you start to talk about what is and is not illegal here?

The correct term is illegal alien, but let's see what the harryesque defivcniton thereof is.
One would assume that anyone who enters a country illegally is one, but Harry surely has his own super-lefty-progressive version. We're all ears!

Steady on Harry before you give yourself a migraine. I was pointing out why the OP had "illegal immigrate" in his title and suggested it should be changed to asylum seekers. Unfortunately most people still think of refugees as illegal immigrates.

"yes, that was my point really.
yet you were saying that they should be shot at the border.
Make your mind up, you are not being rational."

If you feel so guilty for centuries of colonialism and the wars in ME, then your country should open several camps somewhere in North Africa and northern Syria, provide humanitarian aid there and put several thousand soldiers around to keep them safe and that's it. The rest that try to break illegally into EU borders should be shot. Simple.

But what the major EU countries are doing ? Pretty much nothing, which gives the illusion to millions of (mostly simply economic immigrants, not any refugees) people from half of Africa & ME that they can easily get into "paradise" so they leave everything behind and thousands die marching through deserts, war zones etc. Those that make it (usually young men, not any women & children) simply... walk into EU (as the southern border is hardly protected) and then it's "oh all the countries need to show solidarity and accept some of them". This is a mix of NWO style social engineering with typical Euro naivity and impotence. OK let's say that Poland or Slovakia will "accept" some of them... several days later most of them will be gone traveling to Germany or UK. Poland is not really the country they are trying to get into. It's mainly Germany, UK etc. It's the problem made by you, to you and for you so please kindly spare us your drama stories and funny patronisation.

" It's the problem made by you, to you and for you so please kindly spare us your drama stories and funny patronisation."

oh I made the problem did I? And there was me thinking I was a simple family person somewhere in Western Europe, when all along I was Daddy Warbucks? Gosh if only I had known. Thanks for letting me know.

And sorry but you ruined any "argument" you may have had by mentioning the "NWO" the refuge of drug addicted and disaffected powerless youth.

it more look like Poland under rule of EU.

"oh I made the problem did I?"

Was it Poland (or Slovakia or Czech Republic or Latvia ?) that did a lot to remove Gaddafi or Assad and create this chaos ? Are all these people traveling thousands of kilometers to get to Poland... ? Or perhaps Lithuania... ? It is not some pan-European problem, several countries helped to create the whole mess in the first place and then did nothing to prevent the influx and thus encouraged more and more to come... It is their problem, not ours.

"And sorry but you ruined any "argument" you may have had by mentioning the "NWO" "

Sorry but when Hungarians finally started doing something about it building the friggin fence that's what they get:

.org/content/european-commission-hungary-serbia-wall-fence-illegal-migrants/27079829.html


washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jul/2/viktor-orban-of-hungary-antagonizes-european-union/?page=all


when I see insanity like this, impossible is nothing.

BTW what's your solution ? Let in a million ? Don't you understand that then millions more will arrive ?

Exactly. It's the foremost sign of paranoia. Amazing to see some people ranting and raging about the refugee crisis - as if they're determined that we should not do the decent, humanitarian thing.

Yet the same people never offer a solution. In this thread alone, we've had people saying "send them back" (good luck with that) or "shoot them" (all 800,000? What will they do with the bodies - rebuild Treblinka?). And the people will keep coming and no amount of sniping, ranting or moaning will stop that.