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Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees



hammock
18 Oct 2015  #1,381

One said to the other

One may start to think that total extermination is the only answer

The other to one:

That's been tried. It doesn't work. It's also considered a little morally dubious by most people.

I said:

If only the richest Poles would offer their holiday apartment villas for the migrants that would solve the problem of migration.

and added:

Whatever I would say has already been said. All the fruit of the garden of wisdom has been already gathered. Only the garden of stupidity is full of fruit.

And it seems that that garden is yours not mine - that 'Polish Forum' is a den of iniquity and stupidity - really.

Sparks11
18 Oct 2015  #1,382

Why would anyone offer their second, third, fifth home which they either worked hard for or someone who left it to them worked hard for. These people are coming here for handouts, in most cases, they don't want to contribute or work like Europeans did to get what is theirs.

hammock
18 Oct 2015  #1,383

You've asked: Why would anyone offer their second, third, fifth home which they either worked hard for or someone who left it to them worked hard for?

And my answer is because they are those who gained the most from the fall of communism, the rest of Poles if not lost then gained nothing.

And why should they be indebted to Muslims, you may ask. Here goes the article from Le Nouvel Observateur, of January 15-21, 1998, which sets the context. The article was considered irrelevant by a moderator and put to bin. Here it goes: globalresearch.ca/articles/BRZ110A.html

Brzeziński is saying in this interview among the other that the secret operation [against the Soviet Union planded and put into practice by Brzeziński] was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter. We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.

You can gather from here that the fall of communism is due the courage and bravery of Mujahideen Muslim fighters and also, if you read the rest of the article, that there are many and different Muslim countries like there are many and different Christians: moderate, secular - not only fundamentalist ones.

Beside all that, you should know that people fleeing from war are the same all over the world.

Why rich people should bear the cost of help, you may ask then. Well, firstly, they are the ones who gained the most from Muslim epic fighting against communism; secondly, they have the means to help, they also are the most educated and conscious people and should therefore show the way for the rest of the population, which may consider itself poor, but by the standards of people fleeing a war, they are not so poor.

Avalon
18 Oct 2015  #1,384

Beside all that, you should know that people fleeing from war are the same all over the world.

And what about the 80% who are economic migrants? it seems you pretend that these people do not exist. Rich people "love" to give other peoples money away, especially the taxpayers who have no choice where their money goes. It gives the rich a nice, warm, feeling at their cocktail parties to know they have "done their bit", never mind that there are people sleeping on the streets in their own cities or pensioners who cannot heat their houses in the Winter.

When the governments and charities stop wasting money, then I might start to allow people like you to make me feel guilty.

hammock
18 Oct 2015  #1,385

What you have written is right. But I only wanted to say that there are costs of both victory and of defeat. So if Poland whould only open its borders for asylum seekers would be good enouth. As far as the economic migrants are concerned, they are resonbale enouth not to seek refuge in Poland but in Germany, Sweeden and other richer countries.

Avalon
18 Oct 2015  #1,386

If they were in any way "reasonable", they would not be invading Europe. As most have destroyed their documents, how is anyone supposed to sort the wheat from the chaff?

Brummieexpat
19 Oct 2015  #1,387

Poles living in England fit in and learn the language.. and after one generation non one would ever know the children had polish parents.. unlike all the asians the UK has to put up with and now ******* muslims..

Lyzko
19 Oct 2015  #1,388

Unfortunately, it's not that simple! The UK has tried to integrate multi-ethnics for some time now, sadly with less than rave reviews:-)

While Poles are an easier sell than, say, Pakistanis, Africans and/Asians (after all, remember Joseph Conrad!!), the English, like the French, the Germans and most of the rest of the lot, would rather do without migrants, if push comes to shove.

American WASPS too aren't crazy about most new arrivals!

Crow
24 Oct 2015  #1,389

We all know how would this finish. When Poland tries to escape out of EU and NATO, what is unavoidable, west of Europe and USA would activate Silesian question and move its enormous propaganda machinery against Poland. In worse case scenario, NATO leading powers would militarily intervene and occupy Poland and split it on several zones of control. Let us hope that before this happen Poland can manage to establish alliance with other countries on Baltic-Balkan line which are aware of problem.

Down with EU!

Billy9999
25 Oct 2015  #1,390

Population replacement... Colonisation funded by the Saudi's (who, incidentally haven't taken their own in). Anyone who thinks its the "religion of peace" should re-chip themselves.

Its all going to plan aided and abetted by traitors like Merkel.

Poland is a decent Christian country and must remain so.

Multiculturalism is an experiment which is and always was fatally flawed. Learn from the UK, USA and Sweden experience.

johnny reb
25 Oct 2015  #1,391

sites.google.com/site/muslimdeception/taqiyya

We were talking about people who were born in Muslim countries as Muslims (jon357 & Polsyr) in this thread promoting Islam and then claiming they do not belong to the Islam faith or any faith or believing in a god at all in jons case.

They have been promoting the refugee invasion to Poland by posting how wrong everyone is about everything from the number of anti protesters to how the anti's are bigots, racists and haters.

And not only in this thread but many of them in the last year, glaringly.
It is important to read the above website in this post to help people understand why they are promoting Poland in taking in more refugees and then denying that they are Muslim's themselves by trying to hoodwink us.

One of the so-called largest Islamic commentators and historians of all "Ibn Kathir"commented sura (chapter) 3 and verse 28 of the Quran and said that "muslims are allowed to show friendship outwardly, but never inwardly)." . Another renowned scholar among muslims, "Al-Bukhari" commented by saying that "We[muslims] smile in the face of some people[non-muslims] although our hearts curse them".

Sharia Law is the problem.
Poland has stood strong against Merkel's pressure to take in what Poland is seen happening in Germany with an out of control problem getting worse by the day.

Poland should be educated by this forum to understand the refugees motive to unite against giving their country away like France has.

whocares
25 Oct 2015  #1,392

For Poland: Deport everyone and anyone who doesnt bother learning Polish. If you are in the country you should be learning the culture and language.

For Europe including Poland: deport Muslims and non-white Europeans.

Then send those leftists who preach diversity and multicultarism to Africa and see how they feel.

Levi
26 Oct 2015  #1,393

Poland is a decent Christian country and must remain so.

Exactly. I Say that in 10 Years, Poland and few east european countries will be the last one that still will have European culture instead of Islamic culture and Sharia Law.

Kennyboy
26 Oct 2015  #1,394

The word ''racism'' keeps being mentioned over and over again, why is it that it appears only white people can be considered racist, black guy attacks white guy it's just a Saturday night punch up, white guy attacks black guy it's a racially motivated attack. I wonder, if a white English guy criticises a white, lets say German guy, is that racism, I guess the word used would change to prejudice.

So the latest I hear is Poland is now to get 7,000 ''immigrants'' anyone know how they are made to stay here (not that they want to) and now we have a minimum of 500,000 in Europe, how do you monitor or keep tabs on that many people.

The PC brigade need to wake up and see what's happening, totally unsustainable.

Levi
27 Oct 2015  #1,395

Most of them are already awaken, and they see what is happening.

Problem is, this is exactly what they want: Repopulate Europe and destroy indigenous European people, society and culture.

And with 7.5 million "refugees" coming in the next 5 years, with a birth rate of 6 kids per woman (against 1.6 of Europeans), they will bring their families in this same space of 5 years.

That means 45 Million people that hate Europeans, and want their beliefs and laws enforced over the continent, in 2020.

More than the Population of Poland and Netherlands combined.

I have the impression that Poland will be the last bastion of resistance when that happens.

That is the End.

Crow
27 Oct 2015  #1,396

Can anybody say how much more EU can pressure Poland before Poles rebel against EU?

mafketis
27 Oct 2015  #1,397

A lot of Poles are .... distancing themselves from the EU (more colloquially: mentally disinvesting in or mentally checking out of the EU).

Before the summer I hardly heard anything bad about the EU (in one on one conversations) now.... there's a kind of resignation.

But I'm pretty sure a huge majority care nothing about Serbia or any mad pan-Slavic alliance. That's a non-starter.

nothanks
27 Oct 2015  #1,398

Can anybody say how much more EU can pressure Poland before Poles rebel against EU?

Poland seems to be in a Win-Win position because of the funds & migration. If Polska switched currencies there would be riots.

InPolska
28 Oct 2015  #1,399

Poles to rebel against the ... EU????? "lol"! Just for the years 2014-2020 Poland has received .... 106 billions euros (+ all the other billions received before). As you say back home "the soup tastes too good" and thus Poland shall always be in EU ;);)

mcrpolak
28 Oct 2015  #1,400

There is this thing amongst Europeans to only refer to the challenges of Europe and conveniently forget the benefits they might have received. That's not just restricted to Polish people but most Europeans.

Similarly the Germans get upset that they finance europe, whilst failing to consider the markets which have opened up for them.

G (undercover)
28 Oct 2015  #1,401

Like I said at least a hundred times here already, I'm for leaving that whole mess immediately. And I wouldn't say that if the whole thing was a good business for us.

TheOther
28 Oct 2015  #1,402

I'm for leaving that whole mess immediately.

Poland's economy would be dead one week later.

Levi
28 Oct 2015  #1,403

No, it will not. Leave Schengen doesn't mean lose investments.

Not even close to that.

Even because at Schengen, what will be dead soon will be the POLES themselves when the hordes of disguised ISIS soldiers invade Poland and start to behead people in the middle of the ulicas.

TheOther
28 Oct 2015  #1,404

No, it will not. Leave Schengen doesn't mean lose investments.

G (undercover) was talking about leaving the EU altogether.

6millionsarabia
28 Oct 2015  #1,405

yes, very true what others have underlined : "the hordes of "migrants" actually disguised I S I S soldiers will soon invade Poland and start to behead people in the middle of the ulicas"

the sad thing is that you will not see these on the news anymore, because the massmedia is all in the hands of globalists, who have just one goal: to mix all the populations, so that they can rule everyone with just one world gov

Billy9999
28 Oct 2015  #1,406

That and massive Saudi influence / money being palmed-off to all our leaders to accelerate the islamisation of Europe

Levi
28 Oct 2015  #1,407

Exactly.

If people knew how much money the Saudis are transferring to bribe left-wing governments all around the world, so they allow mosque building and islamization, they would be disgusted.

Crow
28 Oct 2015  #1,408

Only good thing from all this is that those Poles who hesitated to support Serbians, learn that those who fought Serbs yesterday, tomorrow would fight Poland. Yes, i point on governments of western Europe, USA and also Islamic league.

nothanks
28 Oct 2015  #1,409

Imagine how low native EU support is at the moment when even Poles are having 2nd thoughts.

One of the EU master plans was to eliminate homogeneous nations. In lighter terms to turn them into training grounds for eventual migrants to the West.

And yet the plan has already been dismissed. IMO Westerners are surprised how united these homogenous nations are. Such values have been long forgotten in their Western cultures

Grzegorz_
28 Oct 2015  #1,410

Poland's economy would be dead one week later.

Yeah the sky would fail over our heads, you economic imbecile :)))))))))


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