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Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees



NocyMrok
25 Nov 2015  #1801

I've nothing against Brits, Germs (love to call Germans that) or other civilised people coming to our country but i say NO to the Muslim parasite when every single one of them (women and children included) is potential killer of a dozen of innocent human beings. Keep the parasite as far as possible plausibly on the bottom of Mediterranean Sea.

johnny reb
25 Nov 2015  #1802

Germany's leader invited the Muslim refugees with open arms, not Poland.
So why should Poland be pressured to not have a say about who and who is not welcomed in their country ?
These countries that want them could enjoy the benefits of these demanding, poorly educated, devout Muslim, generally unskilled, linguistically limited, Sharia supporting, honor killing, genital mutilating, gay bashing, dog hating, pig rejecting, anti-democracy, woman hating, with their noses in the public trough........... new potential citizens.

Poland would just have to look on with envy that they were not wise enough.......nor caring enough........nor compassionate enough.......to put the lives of their children at risk for the sake of these unknown.............strangers from hell.

spiritus
25 Nov 2015  #1803

edited

This is an interesting article both for it's content and it's reporting.

bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34193568

The BBC report on Jean Claude Juncker's speech that EU countries should take a set quota of refugees shows that Juncker was demanding that EU member states distribute 160,000 migrants according to quotas. This is where I feel like banging my head against a wall because the number of migrants arriving in Europe this year is probably closer to one million so what has happened to the rest of them and where has Juncker got his figure of 160,000 from ???

According to the European Commission report, Poland are expected to contribute by accepting the 4th largest number of migrants out of all the EU countries (UK excluded) ahead of countries like Austria, Netherlands, Belgium and Sweden, countries that already have established muslim communities and therefore would be a better host for the migrants than Poland.

The second interesting thing about this article is that the BBC report uses the words "refugees" and "migrants" as if they are one and the same, interchangeable. Again I feel like banging my head against a wall. They are not the same.

The BBC is not alone in this type of confused descriptions and I think this demonstrates perfectly that this is not purely a refugee crisis.

Levi
25 Nov 2015  #1804

According to the European Commission report, Poland are expected to contribute by accepting the 4th largest number of migrants out of all the EU countries (UK excluded)

Good Point.

But EU wants to send muslims to Poland instead of the already muslim country of Sweden because their mission is Sweden is already complete. Sweden is already taken-over. So now their efforts is to Islamize East Europe.

delphiandomine
25 Nov 2015  #1805

You've never been to Sweden, have you?

Interesting, Poles are the 3rd biggest non-Swedish group in Sweden. The biggest group? Finns.

mafketis
25 Nov 2015  #1806

But EU wants to send muslims to Poland instead of the already muslim country of Sweden because their mission is Sweden is already complete.

The most likely explanation is that it's not about islamization but rather part of the Neoliberal agenda of dismantling the welfare state and having a large underclass to hand for various purposes. Rumors are that the US has been pressuring Germany to do this for a long time.

The people in charge of most western governments hate social spending and want to cut it back - getting natives and newcomers involved in a nasty wrangle and fighting over benefits and housing is part of cutting it social spending altogether so they can proceed with their larger plan of turning the world into Brazil with a small elite and a large have not class and not much of anything in between the two poles of wealth and poverty.

Billy9999
28 Nov 2015  #1807

that the US has been pressuring Germany to do this for a long time.

USA are in a multicultural meltdown. They are pressuring EU countries to go down same route. "You mean you don't want multiculturalism? Are you racists?"

Wake up and smell the coffee

Xiss
1 Dec 2015  #1808

Harry Stop this endless hate towards this country. edited

Polonius3
9 Dec 2015  #1809

Merged: More migrants to be forced down Poland's throat

Merkel and the do-gooder Swedes opened their floodgates to refugees and every manner of unscreened migrant riffraff, are now unable to cope with the mess they created and now want to foist the results of their blunder off on innocent neighbouring countries.

The European Commission will propose relocating 23,000 migrants who have arrived in Sweden from Syria, Iraq and Eritrea, the daily Rzeczpospolita said. That would mean that Poland may have to take in around 8,000 refugees by September 2017, which is more than the previous pro-EU, centre-right Civic Platform (PO) government agreed to accept as part of a European Union deal struck earlier this year, the paper said.

thenews.pl/1/10/Artykul/232027,Poland-to-take-in-refugees-from-Sweden#sthash.nyY3LDu5.dpuf

mafketis
9 Dec 2015  #1810

At this point, the government of Sweden has no moral authority to tell other countries what to do. Successive governments have pursued untenable dysfunctional immigration and asylum policies that have brought their once prosperous country to the breaking point.

And instead of rethinking their policies they're trying to spread them and force other countries to adopt them.

No sale.

In related news:

Two thirds of the arrivals in Germany are probably functionally illiterate

germanimmigration.eu/2015/12/two-thirds-of-migrants-functionally-illiterate.html

This will have horrendous consequences for the German economy which has effectively accepted hundreds of thousands of people who have no chance of being anything but wards of the welfare state.

Crow
9 Dec 2015  #1811

Yes, Poland is the target of the sinister plan. Idea of those who targeting Poland is total chaos among Poles, so that they become vulnerable for influence of western European spin doctors, to become convinced that only ways of western Europe can save them. In this case western Europe would offer vulgar racism that behind scene selling germanization to Poles, while would at one moment all reverse on false multiculturalism by the Germanic rules.

Now, most important thing is that Poles preserve control over their rage because of the whole situation. Poles, your fear for your way of life is what makes you strong but also vulnerable, in this case. Poles, my brothers, forget fear of intermixing. It won`t happen, even if 5 million strangers comes to Poland, temporarily of course. Nobody can`t brake the will of people, or of a man, if he follow his own way and way of his ancestors. Poland is old idea, part of old civilization.

To endure this assault and to survive as Slavs and as Poles, solution is in spirit. Poles have to rise its own patriotic feelings, to follow idea of Intermarium. Also, it is of extraordinary importance that Poland its foreign policy focus on Visegrad group countries (with especial focus on Hungary to prevent German influence there, on the long run) and outside Visegrad Group on Serbia. Forcing close ties with Serbia would channel spirituality of Poles when comes to patriotic feelings. Influence of Serbia would secure that Polish patriotic feelings keep to that Sarmato-Slavic dimension, same way as influence of Catholic Church among Poles rise particularly pro-Polish and strong family feelings.

nothanks
9 Dec 2015  #1812

Polish welfare system and society will rush any migrants quickly out

It is such a non-issue at this point I almost think it would be wise for us to take a backseat on this issue. Regardless the migrants won't stay but I recognize being firm and standing your ground. Which I expect PiS to do [for better or worse]

Polonius3
9 Dec 2015  #1813

at this point I

The boyscout maxim Semper parartus is always a good policy!

Harry
9 Dec 2015  #1814

unscreened migrant riffraff

Always amusing to see an immigrant complaining about other immigrants, especially one who won't undergo a screening process himself, not even to get a Polish passport.

Polish welfare system and society will rush any migrants quickly out

Exactly. With very limited benefits and terrible employment prospects, they'll be relocating to Germany (or the UK) very quickly, so why not win some EU brownie points by just agreeing to take however many thousand (all fully funded by the EU)?

mafketis
9 Dec 2015  #1815

With very limited benefits and terrible employment prospects, they'll be relocating to Germany (or the UK) very quickly, so why not win some EU brownie points by just agreeing to take however many thousand (all fully funded by the EU)?

Becuase the EU is making noises about a "mini schengen" in an obvious bid to redistribute migrants and keep them from going back to the countries they want.

You can tell that the mini-schengen idea is a fraud because they're including Belgium (you know the country that's produced most of the terror attacks in Europe over the last five years or so).

Until they give up the mini-schengen idea no migrants. As soon as that's off the table may the revolving door begin!

Germany has made a catastrophic policy error that will cripple the economy of Germany (and other countries) for decades. I'm not going to support them in trying to score PR points at home. They invited them, they can keep them.

delphiandomine
9 Dec 2015  #1816

Becuase the EU is making noises about a "mini schengen" in an obvious bid to redistribute migrants and keep them from going back to the countries they want.

In fairness, this wasn't the EU, this was the Dutch trying to find some sort of way to get out of the mess that the Germans started. They obviously couldn't get away with telling the truth (that the "new" Schengen states are far better at protecting the border than the old ones), so it seems they clumsily proposed this as an alternative.

Throwing Greece out of Schengen would be a good start, though.

Crow
9 Dec 2015  #1817

Poles have to be vigilant and to prevent any possible sh** that may try to fall on Poland.

Look at the Serbs, my Polish sisters and brothers. Two Serbian handball players saved Lufthansa passenger plane few days ago. Crazy screaming Jordan terrorist wanted to open the door of the plane and Serbians used him as ball between themselves.

Levi
10 Dec 2015  #1818

Poles have to be vigilant and to prevent any possible sh** that may try to fall on Poland.

Specially all those coming from Brussels, Juncker, Merkel, Hollande and Erdogan.

Or, in another words, all those that want to destroy Poland.

Crow
10 Dec 2015  #1819

hahah hahahah hhaah i am so happy. It would be great party!

Ironside
14 Dec 2015  #1820

Polish eurodeputy about EU and refugees:



nothanks
22 Dec 2015  #1821

Almost as many Ukrainian immigrants in Polska right now, as 2015 refugees in Europe

Graph

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Polonius3
22 Dec 2015  #1822

The Ukrainians usually come to stay and make a life for themselves in Poland. If they have a higher fertility rate, they can help alleviate Poland's demographic crisis. The Mideast refugees are mostly passing through and headed for their "Promsied Land" -- Deutschland.

mafketis
22 Dec 2015  #1823

Most Ukrainians are temporary workers who want to return to their country, though those who stay assimilate very quickly (or their kids do). It's not like there are strong absolute boundaries between Poles and Ukrainians (in terms of genetics, culture and language).

Legal Eagle
22 Dec 2015  #1824

Standardized Ukrainian came from the Poltava region per Dr. Magosci. The Ukies across the border spoke a more Polish dialect of language, contrary to communist historiography about the great challenge of Ukrainians being educated in Polish. The big differentiation has been religion, although the Greek Catholics (previously known as Ruthenians) have less of distinction than the Orthodox Ukrainians. Western Ukraine had a very large Polish population before Stalin.

johnny reb
23 Dec 2015  #1825

This video tells it like it is and what this is all about in detail.
I dare anyone to watch it to the end and tell me that they are in favor of this Muslim invasion.
You watch it and then you decide if you want them for your next door neighbor.

youtube.com/watch?v=44vzMNG2fZc

heyhey
23 Dec 2015  #1826

That video is very true Johnny Reb. Soros and other rich manipulators of society want to diversify, divide and conquer white countries (and only white countries). The bankers saw what happens when a culture is homogenous like Iceland. They can come together and rebel against the scum. But if a society is diversified like America it is very easy for exploitation as the people are focused on fighting each other. I live in the USA and the media here almost always spews news about interracial violence to keep people angry and divided. The intelligent cultures like Poland and Russia understand the implications of this and are not willing to let it happen.

Levi
4 Jan 2016  #1827

moved from

The definition of racism is quite loose.

At my last visit to Poland, during Christimas, a man shouted to me from the other side of the street "Go back to your country, this is Poland, Kurwa!"

I Don't understand that as racism, but rather as a (stupid) demonstration of revolt against the fact that Angela Merkel is disrespecting Poland trying to Oblige then to receive illegal immigrants that can endanger their own security.

Harry
4 Jan 2016  #1828

Angela Merkel is disrespecting Poland trying to Oblige then to receive illegal immigrants that can endanger their own security.

a) Those people are not illegal immigrants.
b) People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. And people who think that Polish immigration law doesn't apply to them just make life more difficult for all non-white people in Poland.

Levi
4 Jan 2016  #1829

a) Those people are not illegal immigrants.

They are.

You can say as many times as you want that they are refugees, but they are not. They were refugees when they arrived at Turkey, a non-war zone. After leave Turkey to seek benefits, they are illegal immigrants, according to all conventions existent.

(And not even talking about the chadians, sudaneses, etc.. because those are illegal immigrants anyway, since those countries are not at war).

Harry
4 Jan 2016  #1830

After leave Turkey to seek benefits, they are illegal immigrants, according to all conventions existent.

You may wish to decide that in Poland the Polish state decides who is and is not an illegal immigrant. The few thousand Syrians Poland has grudgingly agreed to take are most certainly not illegal immigrants. In fact they simply cannot be illegal immigrants when entering Poland, given that the Polish government has agreed to give them residency permits. Of course, it will be possible for them to become illegal immigrants, for example if they work in Poland while not having the legal right to do that, they become illegal immigrants, whether they think that their activity requires legal permission or not. I believe you know something about carrying out business activity in Poland while not having the legal right to do so.

I do very much hope that these Syrian families (an all other immigrants) do respect Polish law; crimes committed by immigrants are often used by racists as 'justification' for stopping all immigrants from coming to Poland.


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