Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees

Harry's main concern is "all non-white people in Poland", but in Poland there are now 400,000 Ukrainians. For Hurry they are not so important as his beloved and dearly loved

non-whites

Some opinions from the West :

john :
I am a Englishman living for 5 yrs in Suwalki Poland i am very proud and fully support the polish people in not wanting any muslims in their country, in fact i can say that i agree totally with their stance,long may it continue.

the slickster :
December 3, 2015 @ 4:57 am

Hmm, I think poland has the right idea ,
Of course they ( the refugees ) arnt even real refugees , they are cowards that won't take a stand in their civil war, and theyeare opportunist !

Jonafun Karter :
November 23, 2015 @ 8:26 pm

God Bless you. You give me hope for the survival of Christendom in the face of ever growing muslim jihad.

The rest of the comments can be found here :

barenakedislam.com/2015/07/04/poland-we-are-not-western-europe-we-will-not-be-infiltrated-by-muslim-terrorists-posing-as-refugees/

No. I Don't wish that.

Neither me, neither you, neither Angela Merkel have the power to say who is a refugee. Only the Dublin Convention and according to the Dublin convention, those that went out from Turkey to seek benefits at Europe ARE NOT REFUGEES.

Are Illegal Immigrants. Period.

Same applies to those from Pakistan, Sudan, Chad, etc.

How sure are that they will be a) Syrian and b) families? Over 70 % of the Merkeljugend were single men and a similar percentage was not from Syria. All the stories I've seen also indicate that Germany doesn't have enough qualified Arabic interpreters to separate the Syrians from others (and that interpreters are not supposed to point out that particular "refugee" sounds more like a Moroccan or Iraqi than a Syrian... but simply translate what they say, even if the interpreter is sure it's a lie).

This whole undertaking by Merkel is just one huge unmitigate clusterf**k whose consequences will be felt for years or decades to come (and those consequences will almost surely be far more negative than positive)

And..... how is Poland going to keep these "refugees" in Poland again? They've already proven that they don't care about drossing borders to get what they want (and I'm sure they don't want Poland).

Here in Poland the Polish state decides what is and is not illegal. The Polish state has decided to invite a few thousand people to live in Poland: that means they come here as legal immigrants, no matter how much you object. Of course, if they break the terms of their residency permits, they can become illegal immigrants, just as somebody who is in Poland legally on a tourist visa becomes an illegal immigrant as soon as they engage in business activity, as you know.

Actually, now I think about it, I suppose that it would in theory be possible for those invited guests to come to Poland as illegal immigrants: if they were asked if they had ever broken Polish immigration law and replied that they have not when in fact they have, that would make them illegal immigrants. Gaining a residency permit or visa by lying is fraudulent misrepresentation and makes that permit/visa invalid from the moment it was issued, as you know.

Despite the 1600 immigrants accepted, most of them christians, there are no other "guests" (A.K.A Illegal Immigrants) that could be called illegal immigrants.

All the Wahabbis Sudaneses that you defend, will need to beat or stone their woman in Germany or Sweden, not in Poland.

No matter how much you want that.

Would you care to quote me defending "Wahabbis Sudaneses" or is this just another of the things that exists only in your imagination, along with the parallel universe in which guests invited by the Polish state are illegal immigrants and people can legally work in Poland on tourist visas?

Well, people in Poland generally object to the invitation but the government ignores
the fact. That's democracy for you (to serve you and the nation).

I wish I could understand what Merkel has done, but it just doesn't make any sense at all. Genuine Syrians are one thing, but it was obvious to everyone that many others would try and slip in alongside them.

policija.si/eng/index.php/component/content/article/13-news/1729-a-new-webpage-on-police-activities-re-current-migration-flows-set-up-available-informations - this is well worth looking at. It shows the numbers turning up in Slovenia daily - 9000 in the first 3 days of the year alone. So - a fair guess is to say that 15,000 are coming through Slovenia weekly - or 780,000 a year.

This is also worth a read - policija.si/eng/index.php/component/content/article/13-news/1815-refusal-of-entry-to-a-group-of-migrants - it shows exactly what we all know.

Many Germans whom I've spoken with of late feel Merkel, like Gauck, has been kowtowing to far too many liberal pressure groups for her own political good. While I as a foreign observer am loathe to demonize her, I do feel she mishandled to entire mess in the first place.

Compared with her deft handling of the Greece crisis, the former was clearly not Angie's finest hour:-)

Not just the racists, anyone with a lick of sense would agree.
Trump wants Muslims banned period from the U.S.A. which the majority of Americans agree with.
Of course that just inflames the Libtards like England to the point Parliament is debating
Parliament debates in Great Britain are often lively, and this one may be especially so: Whether or not to ban Donald Trump from the United Kingdom over his comments about Muslims.

Hope Britain remembers this when Trump gets elected and when the first major attack happens in London and then calls on the United States to bail them out again. Sorry, you banned me, remember.

I bet the Polish people would welcome Trump with open arms.


And once they arrive are finding out it ain't all what it is cracked up to be and are returning back home voluntarily.

USA needs to accept at-least Christian-Arabs. Muslims after a long extended background check - no documented trips to Middle East etc. I would personally be offended if USA, one of the main instigators in this Crisis accepted none.

Although I support Trump, especially because of his Anti-PC stance; he speaks too quickly on matters. Days after Trump was berated by all sides of the Political aisle for his Muslim-travel comment, the USA set a ban on recent travelers to Syrian/Iraq.

Read what happened in Germany New Years Eve and you may understand why this is Hairy.

msn.com/en-us/news/world/mass-sexual-attack-in-germany-inflames-migrant-debate/ar-AAgowzs

Apart from your comment about you thinking that Poles would welcome Trump with open arms, I can't see how your post is relevant to the thread. The situation in the US has nothing to do with Poland being under pressure to accept refugees.

As the post is still here, I'm presuming it's considered on topic to reply to.
Do you have any sources for your claim?
In the absence of you supplying any, here is a link to the results of 3 polls which give some understanding as to how Americans feel about Trump wanting a ban on Muslims entering the US, and it's the opposite of what you say.

From the link, NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll: 57% oppose Trump, 25% support him.
CBS News: 58% opposed, 36% in favour.
ABC News/ Washington Post poll : 60% opposed, 36% in favour.

There are some differences between Republicans and Democrats which is to be expected, but the situation is NOT as you describe.
As for your comment about Poles welcoming Trump with open arms, neither you or I can speak for the Polish people, but I would hope that Poles would remember history and another person who discriminated against a certain group of people. And look how that turned out.

forbes.com/sites/bowmanmarsico/2015/12/18/trumps-muslim-ban-what-americans-really-think/

Sure it does Pam.
I was answering Hairy's reply about how it was crimes committed by illegal immigrants are used by "racists" for a justification to stop immigration into Poland.


Not true, I said: "Trump wants Muslims banned period from the U.S.A. which the majority of Americans agree with."
That is true, the majority of Americans not the majority of Democrats.
May I suggest you did not comprehend the part about the 70% of DEMOCRATS and not the 100% of Americans.
It was written by a democratic reporter for Forbes and we know better to believe anything that Forbes prints.
Did you read her whole commentary carefully ?
Here is the WHOLE paragraph from her article that you obviously did not comprehend:
" The kind of partisan differences we see in so many areas today were evident in all three polls. Majorities of Republicans in the CBS and ABC/Post polls favored the more limited temporary ban. When asked about a complete ban, 42 percent of them were in favor, with 36 percent opposed. More than 70 percent of Democrats in all three polls were opposed to Trump's plan."

'Partisan Differences' - 'Republicans' - 'Democrats' - 'limited temporary ban' - "complete ban". Key words here.


Yes, give this one a try.
Bloomberg poll: 65% of Republican likely primary voters favor Trump's plan to bar Muslims from U.S. temporarily
posted at 3:21 pm on December 9, 2015 by Allahpundit

hotair.com/archives/2015/12/09/bloomberg-poll-64-of-republican-likely-primary-voters-favor-trumps-plan-to-bar-muslims-from-u-s-temporarily/comment-page-2/

Poland, like Trump, is Conservative and not being sucked into the "Political Correctness" demands by the Progressive Liberals.
It honors me Pam that you read and reply to my posts. ;-)

Everybody, keep this thread in the Polish reality.

Yes, at Harry's delusional mind, all those poles that marched against Merkel trying to force Poland to receive thousands of illegal immigrants are "racists".

But Harry himself denies that his country genocided 97% of the Christians living there.

You really do have problems telling who is and is not an illegal immigrant. Perhaps I can help you out with a three question guide to telling who is and is not an illegal immigrant.

Has the person been invited to Poland by the Polish State? If the answer is 'yes', he is not an illegal immigrant.
Has the person broken Polish immigration law, for example by conducting business activity while in Poland on a tourist visa? If the answer is 'yes', he is an illegal immigrant.

Has the person obtained a Polish residency permit by fraudulent misrepresentation, i.e. lying about previous breach of Polish immigration law by conducting business activity while in Poland on a tourist visa? If the answer is 'yes', he is an illegal immigrant.

We do understand why you don't like the answers to those questions, but you can easily change your own answer to the third question.

Polish state didn't ivite them. The only invitation was made by Merkel and she is not a Polish State.

Those people got illegally into EU. Yes, some puppet governments under pressure of a foreign government and unelected "authorities" of EU, agreed to accept some of them but that doesn't change the fact vast majority of them got illegally into EU. They should be transported to the external border and dumped there.

Poland agreed to accept 7,000 war refugees who were to have been screened at their EU entry point. Economic migrants were to be screened out and thsoe who managed to slip through the net are illegal aliens.

I think the question of legal or illegal and the right to reside in the EU is quite simple to answer. If I've missed any other ways you can live legally in the EU then please enlighten me.

An EU citizen, no,= illegal
Married to an EU citizen, no, = illegal
Rights to obtain an EU nations passport through either parent or grandparent, no, = illegal
Legally obtained an EU nations residency card, no, = illegal

As I have said many times, let them (I see it has now gone up to 7000) come to Poland, they won't be made welcome, they won't intergrate they will have zero language skills which will restrict almost every job available to them and when they quickly realise they can't live (couple of wives and 6 kids) on a few hundred zls per month they will be gone and they will most probably leave with out even saying thank you.

A recent 3 year study by 2 Swedish professors from a sample of approx 4000 asylum seekers in Sweden, after the 3 year study they found that 97% were unemployed.

I wonder if in lets say 12months any figures are released regarding how many and to which countries any ''illegal immigrants'' from this invasion are returned to their home countries.

Good Point.

No matter what stupidity Merkel said (what is actually pretty common lately) to f0ck with Europe, she is the PM of Germany, not of Poland.

Merkel have no powers over Poland, so all the Sudaneses, Malineses or Somalis are still illegal and a potential terrorist threat.

Poland should be out of schengen immideately because of refugee attacks and also Turkey will be schengen this year.So if they do not want to be new Germany or Sweden they should be out of it.

I don't think it has been mentioned as yet in this thread. Those people are for the most part illegal immigrants who crossed borders illegally. I don't think that such a behavior should be reworded.

No, they didn't; read a bit of law some time.

"Poland should be out of schengen immideately" I don't think there is any need for that I do not think that Poland will be the #1 destination for migrants.

In the future as and when life becomes intolerable for the indigenous population of Europe these people will be seeking a country where they can live free from crime and terror.

Poland would do well to chose its moment to exit schengen and set immigration rules that are financially beneficial to Poland, you never know Warsaw may become the financial capital of Europe, bankers do not like being shot at, stabbed and blown up on their way to work.

Works well here for me, I read the local news back in the UK and its all murder stabbing and shooting terrorist raids etc, won't be long before people are fed up of watching their backs.

Hahah what? Once they move past the first designated safe country they are criminals. How can people still be this misinformed months later?

BTW Harry. UK stayed strong but your government/legal system again stabbed you in the back

"Syria refugees from Calais arrive in UK after legal ruling".

When is your family moving to Poland? :D

Oh yes if one family member enters the uk the the rest of the family are allowed to join them , and why not they were invited by the UK after all, the UK just needs to build more houses for them.

Agreed Dolno, If Polish were an easier language we probably would have already seen an exodus of Westeners arriving. It does not matter how badly our Government is smeared in Western media, people are increasingly changing their vacation plans to the safe East. Ultimately people will choose society over Government: Polish society is safe and calm. I still encounter posts online such as "Actually I went to Krakow and it was really safe". Reality is expanding but slowly

"Polish society is safe and calm" yes święty spokój (Holy peace) we need to keep it this way, and we will (but you know that brat).

Reality is often different from what we would expect ;). As to being safe! the only place I got physically agressed was in .... Warsaw. I have lived in 7 countries altogether and have visited a few dozen countries in Europe, North America, Africa and Asia and the only place I had problem was in Warsaw. In midday on a summer day, while on the bus in downtown area, one guy snatched my necklace off my neck, managed to leave the bus and to run away. The bus driver asked all other passengers to get off, called the police, who came a while later. They encouraged me to file a complaint although of course they knew they would not catch the guy and they told me that it happens often in summer since women are lightly dressed. From then on, I don't wear necklaces (only bracelets and 3 gold rings including with diamonds but I doubt someone could remove them from my fingers as said rings are tight ;)). I also know a (Polish) woman who got her diamond ring removed from her finger. She was too on a bus in Warsaw. As it was crowded, she was standing. She answered her phone and got really involved in her conversation and did not realize what was happening (the ring came off easily as very loose)

When I was in my mid twenties, I often walked trough the Bronx or ghettos in Philadelphia and Atlanta, and I never had any problem. (I am 100% European).

There is no 100% safe place.

Please focus on refugees in Poland on this thread