Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees

That's the problem. Even at this late stage in the game there are fuzzy-brained lefty-libbies still going on about accepting migrants. Even though it has been noted that at least 5% of the migrant flow are dyed-in.the-wool radical Muslims ready for anything. How many more attacks are needed before the Merkels, Schetynas, Hollandes and Petrus finally see the light of day? Two, five, fifteen, twenty-three? And is there a death-toll benchmark that will finally enlighten their clouded, addled brains?

@Pol3: sorry, only Merkel wanted the whole sh@@@@ t and nobody else did. Why should you worry since Tusk told migrants a couple of weeks ago not to come ;). As to France, the idea WAS to receive (maximum) 24,000 over several years as per EU's quotas and none more and to this date, very few have been accepted.

"Romania cannot accept Polish refugees now - they enjoy killing Germans......."

(Hypothetical) Statement in the Romanian parliament - September 1939.

Clueless - and Szydlo is clearly ugly in thought as well as the other. I thought she must have some saving grace, but obviously I was mistaken.

wrong. If we speak of what is now Romania, this kind of joy was attributed to Slavic Walachian nobleman Vlad Tepes, known as Dracula, who was member of the Pan-Slavic (and later Pan-European) Dragon Order. Very early Vlad noticed slight similarity between Turks and Germans

The Polish government exploits Belgian victims. Polish government's refusal has nothing to do with Bruxelles since decision taken long ago. What a disgrace to hide behind the dead and wounded!

""Romania cannot accept Polish refugees now 1939, me thinks they were too busy supplying oil to the Nazis at the time, well until the Brits bombed the Sh$t out of their oilfileds.

Kind of lost me there a bit Doug.

I don't think that the current migrant situation can be compared to WWII, Unless of course things escalate.

If Romania hadn't accepted Polish refugees, there would have been no government in exile, and no General Anders. Everybody would have died. Are you going to tell me differently?

Now....................... refugees are living in camps in Greece and Macedonia, and have survived the winter thanks to EU emergency funding, international aid agencies, and government help. Do tell me what Poland has contributed towards these camps?

The last I heard, when asked to donate, the government refused to contribute.

I am lucky in that I have wonderful family and great friends. If they didn't respect those refugees and what they have suffered, I might well have lost a portion of my love and respect for them.

Romania is pretty close to Poland geographically (even had a Polish minority at one point). Money spent on housing refugees in Europe would be much better spent closer to their countries of origin. The money would go much further and the refugees would not face such radical culture shock to go on top of whatever other trauma they have.

Non-European refugees in Europe at present is a bad, bad idea and all the do-good hopes in the world won't change that.

youtube.com/watch?v=UKAQX74yRyc

@Mafketis: without implying situation is "brilliant" because it is not, this is no more than Front National's propapanda film and taking it for granted shows pure stupidity. I'm not saying that things are brilliant but at least 80% of what she says is false. I'm sure you don't know who the woman "supposedly" living in Calais is ;).

@Mafketis: if you mean to be credible, DO check your sources and you would know that the woman is a Front National local figure and her JOB (= being paid) is to create a mess. Do you know about her "hero", socalled General Piquemal? Of course you don't. He acknowledges being a fascist (supports FN) and in Algeria, during war there, he together with his friends, including Le Pen, did torture quite a few Algerians, including pregnant women (they have never denied it). Your examples are really "nice" people ;)

You only show your ignorance while posting made up fictions you have NO knowledge of!

PS: since at most there were 4,000 migrants (far too many, I agree), how the hell does she come up with 18,000??? Now there are some 1,000 left as they have been moved. Well, democrats know about fascist's changing reality and history ;)

Yes, poor Mafketis who knows nothing and relies on any bs he finds on the net!

Best article I've found on Calais and the Jungle

weeklystandard.com/the-migrants-of-calais/article/2001284

key passage: "It is not the first time this has happened. In the 1990s, ...l. Britain bore the brunt of that crisis, but France would be left holding the bag if it repeated itself. Now it has repeated itself."

"When French authorities moved to raze part of the camp in mid-February, human-rights organizations working there were able to secure an injunction by showing that there were more like 8,000 living there, including hundreds of unaccompanied minors."

"None of this has sufficed to convince the citizens of Calais that the situation is under control. "

Please stick on topic: POLAND under pressure...


Looking at what's happened/happening in other countries is _extremely_ on topic for this thread. If Germany closes the border does Poland want cardboard cities on the Odra?

Only looking at this from the perspective of outside pressures on Poland is extremely unhelpful.

Get ready for court, sucker, you just been served!

Yes, they are - you're right about that. I'm not a mind reader, but I'm willing to bet that the Polish government was just looking for an excuse to go back on their promise of allowing 7,000 'refugees' in. The government told the EU - okay fine, stop pressuring us, well let 7,000 in. However, they knew that sooner or later there would be a terrorist attack - it was a matter of time. Now no one can blame them for not wanting to allow refugees in - no one wants a terrorist attack in their own country. You can bet that there's going to be another terrorist attack in Europe before the end of the year committed by extremists - whether they're already Muslim citizens of the country or ISIS affiliated 'refugees.'

There's terrorist attacks that happen actually once a week only they don't become breaking news because they happen in places like Yemen, Lebanon, Iraq, Turkey, etc. There were 2 attacks in Turkey that also killed dozens just days before the Brussels attack yet it didn't get constant coverage by all the major outlets. Same with Lebanon - there was an attack that killed over 40 people just a day or two before the Paris attack. Westerners only start to get worried once it happens in the US or Europe.

This is one of the reasons why I support Trump - we need to stop letting people in till we figure out what the hell is going on... There is no proper vetting and these terrorists are able to come and go as they please. The police even had trouble arresting the suspects that didn't blow themselves up in the Paris and Brussels attack. The politicians are not concerned with their own tax paying citizens safety anymore but rather gaining new votes by giving handouts and allowing waves of migrants to come in and giving them food, shelter, money, etc. things that a normal citizen would not receive.

Poland is under no obligation to help resolve Angela's folly. Let's not forget she did not invite refugees to Europe or the EU but to Germany, saiyng she could accept 800,000 before the year (2015) is out. She started the mess, so let her solve it however she sees fit. Common sense tells one that she has brought a scourge upon Europe that will continue to afflict the continent for generations to come.

Europe, especially Germany, Holland, and Belgium WILL become majority Muslim - it's just a matter of time. They have nearly double the amount of children that non-Muslims do.

In Holland, already 50% of grade school children are Muslim. Imagine what's going to happen when those kids grow up and have kids of their own - 75% of grade schools are Muslim within 1-2 more generations?

gatestoneinstitute.org/6423/germany-muslim-demographic

There's more Muslims in France and Germany combined than Kuwait and United Arab Emirates combined

globalreligiousfutures.org/explorer#/?subtopic=15&countries=Worldwide&chartType=map&year=2010&data_type=number&religious_affiliation=23&age_group=all

Fertility rate image taken from Pew Research Center

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No country has an actual obligation to take refugees however in my opinion the main reason why PiS is so hostile to muslim refugees are jews in Poland including Mister chairman himself who is of jewish descent his real name is Benjamin Kalkstein. We all know real muslims are hostile to jews. Using that attack as an excuse to pass totalitarian surveillance anti-terrorism bill is a clear manipulation of public opinion if I ever seen any.

Politicians do this stuff all the time - Obama used Sandy Hook to sign an executive order for gun control.

There's a lot of crypto-Jews and former Communists in government in Poland... He's just one of many that have changed their name to something more 'Polish' sounding.

Do you know how long they would have been able to postpone taking refugees? For example if no terrorist attack actually happened could they wait a few years before taking any?


She kept her word but I wonder what now even Germany doesn't have financial capacity to take many more and it's just the beginning of the wave. Jews in Germany are protesting against taking so many muslims. I wonder why Merkel is so pro-muslim when she is of polish jewish descent and like at least 1/4 jewish. Perhaps she is like Hitler who was also 1/4 jewish ands secretly anti-semitic.

And an estimated 5% are Djihadists ready to cope with infidels in whatever way they see fit. It is hard to beleive that European elties dio not see their folly and continue spewing pious PC platitudes such as: refugees are not terrorists and Europe has an obligation to accept migrants. Hopefully, those who wanted Poland to engage in multi-culti have finally seen the error of their ways. Muslim ghettos like those of W. Europe are terrorist breeding grounds where wrongdoers find refuge, support and anonymity. In mono-culti Poland potential terrorists stick out like a sore thumb, call attention to themselves, would have a hard time renting a room and using a taxi let alone gaining access to explosives and firearms. I NIECH TAK ZOSTANIE! AND LET'S KEEP IT THAT WAY!

Popular Muslim shopkeeper, 40, was stabbed to death outside his business in a religiously motivated attack by another Muslim just hours after he posted a message wishing his 'beloved Christian nation' a happy Easter

Read more: dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3509367/Muslim-shopkeeper-stabbed-death-hours-posted-happy-Easter-message.html#ixzz43x1OPmoy

To add to above, Is this the future for our own integrated Muslim tartars, once the floodgates are open to the 7th century troglodytes.

Very wise from Poland for not accepting refugees in situation when there is no correct control of migrants. Then also, Polish government see that Germany choosing among migrants who should stay in Germany and expect Hungary, Czech Republic and Poland to accept worse sediments. Poland now demonstrate that is quite serious state.

This kind of decisions may prevent internal disintegration of Poland.

Unfortunately no. I just got told off by someone earlier that me wanting to marry a Polish person is bad because it 'negatively impacts the EU liberal policies' and 'may incite nationalism.' Liberals hate facts but love emotions.


Poland basically traded sovereignty and political control for EU funds - which were pretty substantial.The EU was getting on PiS's case since the EU liberals were concerned that another EU country elected a right-wing government. So PiS had to do something to make them back off - like saying they'd accept a 'manageable amount' of migrants to show 'solidarity' with the EU. They didn't do this out of the goodness of their hearts - they fought against accepting anyone till they performed a cost benefit analysis and realized they don't want to accept the EU further so they said they'd accept a small amount. I'm pretty sure they were betting though that there'd be a terrorist attack sooner or later and they'd go back on their promise. Even if that didn't happen in a short time, they'd come up with other excuses to delay it like stating that they need to set up a system to properly vet refugees, which is totally , and would also delay accepting refugees. Of course, they'd just be kicking the can down the road till something happens where they can go back on the promise to the EU and the EU would understand - they never wanted to accept refugees in the first place but PiS also ****** off the EU execs so they had to at least pay them some lip service to cool the situation down. Now, no one can blame them for not wanting to take in 'refugees.' I'm willing to bet there will be another terrorist attack in Poland because of the changing demographics and tensions in France, Belgium, Holland, Germany, England. Europe is not as safe as it use to be before these hordes of migrants came in. Poland won't be the only country that will use these Belgium attacks, or even other attacks in the future, to go back on their promises of letting in refugees or at the very least cut the numbers down, put up new fences and border controls, etc. Quite frankly, I hope they do!

Poland and Czech Republic actually did let in some refugees, many of them Catholic, however they left those countries for Germany. Almost 1/2 of the ones let into the Czech Republic left for Germany - I don't know the exact situation with Poland. I read an article of one Catholic refugee that Poland let in and has been integrating into the society very nicely but said that he does face a bit of discrimination. He is trying to learn the language and got a job at an airline - I'm guessing Lot.

The Visegard 4 needs to stick together and stand up to EU hegemony. It's sickening how countries lambast Serbia, Hungary, etc. for putting up fences and securing their borders. How come Mexico gets a free pass for having a huge fence to keep Guatemalans out and Israel has a wall that even Trump would envy to keep Palestinians out? Yet hardly anyone complains about Mexico and Israel protecting their borders.

I'm sure you can show us that post... :)

It was from Dolnoslask:

"What's wrong with marrying someone of your own nationality and religion? "
The problem with this is you would be going against EU liberal policy. By continuing your lineage by intermarrying your own kind you would be contributing to nationalism, as long as people feel connected to their own country / people they will never be Europeans thus not fully committed to the EU political regime.

When EU nations are interbred and mixed up there will no longer be a threat to the EU from individual member states.

Angela Merkel is a committed to this policy ,she is trying to speed up the process of dilution my bringing in millions of migrants who would rather support the EU state rather than any individual member nation.

Marrying someone of your own nationality and religion is going against EU liberal policy and Angela Merkel's grand plan. Well good. My family has been European for hundreds of years and I can promise from at least my own end that it will continue.

This is an individual who doesn't believe that Poland should be an independent sovereign nation but rather just a cog in the wheel of the EU. It's people like this and their love of economic migrants, many of whom not only do not respect the host nation or it's people but certain ones even wish to kill the same citizens of the host country that are helping them out. These people are going to be more to blame for the death of European culture rather than the migrants because they let them in and helped them conquer the lands.

Nobody told you that marrying a Polish lady is bad. Dolnoslask just made this outlandish claim that it goes against the liberal political agenda of the EU to pick a partner of the same faith and ethnicity. Which is of course BS for various reasons, and has nothing to do with what we discussed in the other thread.

"The EU should "do its best to undermine" the "homogeneity" of its member states, the UN's special representative for migration has said.

Peter Sutherland told peers the future prosperity of many EU states depended on them becoming multicultural."

He told the committee: "The United States, or Australia and New Zealand, are migrant societies and therefore they accommodate more readily those from other backgrounds than we do ourselves, who still nurse a sense of our homogeneity and difference from others.

"And that's precisely what the European Union, in my view, should be doing its best to undermine."

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Successful migrant societies? Yes, but the success has come at a high price, at a much higher price than if they had been less accepting. The US, Australia and New Zealand became successful because of their extensive virgin land, natural resrouces and remoterness from Europe's frequent conflicts. Immgrant manpower was a factor in their success but a price had to be paid and is being paid to this day. In the US, black on whtie crime is staggering, acceptance has given rise to Muslim ghettos, always hotbeds of terrorism, and inter-ethnic conflicts are the order of the day. Very soon all the advocates of rapid mutli-culti in Europe will be generally ostracised. Anyone who wants Poland to de-homgenise should have hise head examined!


Polish journalist Tomasz Sekielski used a hidden camera to register the sermons of prominent Muslim clergy. imam Abu Bilal Ismail from the moque in Grimhøj, Denmark was recorded as saying: "In order to integrate with the host society we must accept to existing life mode -- to whcih we say NO." "Divorced men who engage in sex with other women, girls who engage in premarital sex, infidels and those who do not observe the fast should be killed." In Germany one imam said fundamemtalism is good, because it means we have built upon a good foundation.

In Poland inciting to kill is a punishable offence and such a one would end up behind bars. Sekielski noted that uptight PC-obsessed Danish society was shocked by these sermons.

The entire show may be viewed on "Po Prostu".

Yes, he did.

" marrying someone of your own nationality and religion?" Nothing wrong with it at all Adrian, I never suggested you shouldn't.

But the Eu want the people of it's member states be blended together under one national banner and anthem that is "The EU" , (With a mix of migrants)

They certainly don't want polish children being proud of the Polish nation , It's religion and it's customs, they want everyone to look to bruxelles for lawmaking, guidance and leadership and in my opinion libtard brainwashing through their education programs.

Its a game. Serbia and Hungary used to pressure of EU (especially Serbia). Pressure on them is much deeper then pressure because of migrants. Those are defiant countries that stood to resist to dictate of western Europe and becoming quite example for it. Now, at this moment is kind of truce, time for politics and sides tries to maneuver without directly provoking opposite side. So, as a result and more or less openly Hungary and Serbia strengthen their mutual coordination.

Actually this is against Islam in sharia death penalty by stoning for adultury is only for a married person having sex with another married. In case of unmarried persons this is called fornication and there is ''only'' 100 lashes for it so he doesn't even know Islamic law despite being an imam. Same thing with rape death penanlty is only for raping married woman for unmarried there is 100 lashes and exile from a village for one year.


Perhaps even false flag by PiS to suspend constitution and set up official PiS dictature.


They probably flagged him as an apostate.

Dictatorship.