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Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees



nothanks
15 Jul 2016  #2461

Hahah whatever you say buddy. Meanwhile, "The killers then emerged from the truck and shot people in restaurants. The truck was rigged with explosive so they could kill even more!"

Westeners make me so embarrassed to be European

jon357
15 Jul 2016  #2462

No known connection to the current humanitarian crisis and tawdry to exploit people's deaths to try and make a point about an unrelated issue.

nothanks
15 Jul 2016  #2463

Western values


  • Western Europe

jon357
15 Jul 2016  #2464

Still nothing to do with the thread, guest poster. Bad taste too.

Marsupial
15 Jul 2016  #2465

Reality seems to be in bad taste.

jon357
15 Jul 2016  #2466

The reality is that tonight's tragic events have nothing to do with the thread which is about Poland.

nothanks
15 Jul 2016  #2467

Every single attack over the past year+ has to do with Poland. We share a union with this impotent "leadership" in Brussels.

Western Europe is at best harboring Islamic terrorism and at worst a breeding ground. We should blindly follow their Multiculturalism masterplan?

jon357
15 Jul 2016  #2468

That's neither true nor in the light of tonight's tragedy tasteful. And no, it's nothing to do with Poland.

Marsupial
15 Jul 2016  #2469

It doesn't I agree. Should be deleted from thread.

nothanks
15 Jul 2016  #2470

What's the point in waiting? Same old story

a) 1st Generation disenfrenchised "European-Muslim"
b) Recent Asylum-seeker from X-Muslim nation
c) Received weapons/grenades during Migrant Crisis

Take your pick. They all lead to the same problem. Like I said above, information will trickle out until our focus already moved onto the next attack. Another round of applause to Brexit.

Meanwhile, Germany raided 60 homes a few days ago because of "hate speech" on social media

jon357
15 Jul 2016  #2471

problem

The problem is you trying to connect tonight's tragedy with this thread.

Germany raided 60 homes a few days ago because of "hate speech

Good they are tackling it.

nothanks
15 Jul 2016  #2472

Unconfirmed reports that he was a 31 year old from Nice with Tunisian origins

> Tackling hate speech
Using Nazi tactics to "prevent Nazis"

jon357
15 Jul 2016  #2473

So nothing to to with Poland. Shame on you for attempting to take advantage of the tragedy.

Nazi

Goodwin's Law...

nothanks
15 Jul 2016  #2474

Goodwin's Law...

Current day Deutschland applies

- arresting free speech
- arresting art [the Comedian jokes about Erdogan]

jon357
15 Jul 2016  #2475

Deutschland

Still nothing to do with either the topic of the thread or the tragedy in Nice.

Shame on you for trying to exploit a tragedy in order to expound your tacky views.

Szalawa
15 Jul 2016  #2476

Simple, it is no secret that there are Muslim Arabs and Africans that hate Europeans. Though this did not occur in Poland, that does not mean we should turn a blind eye to what is happening elsewhere. This is just as much a provocation as it is a tragedy, if today's actions were not considered a hate crime against French/white people, then I don't know what is.

mafketis
15 Jul 2016  #2477

The reality is that tonight's tragic events have nothing to do with the thread which is about Poland.

It is almost certain (99%) that the terrorist attack was carried out by muslims for islamist reasons (Islamism being the single most violent political ideology in the world today).

Firtually all the "refugees" that Poland would be obliged to accept are also muslims (and probably some with islamist leanings as no one has really vetted most of them or knows anything more about them than what they say themselves).

The actions of Islamist terrorists are entirely on point since the combined governments of Western Europe are strangely intent on sending more muslims (potentially with islamist values) to Poland than can be easily integrated (even if they wanted to be integrated).

jon357
15 Jul 2016  #2478

It was carried out by a person. And has nothing to do with Poland...

mafketis
15 Jul 2016  #2479

That is a very weak assertion, it was carried out by a person similar to the ones that the EU wants to send to Poland - that makes it relevant.

dolnoslask
15 Jul 2016  #2480

It does appear that these attacks are carried out by migrants or the offspring of migrants. Acceptance random un-vetted migration needs to be reviewed, and may need to be extended to longer term scrutiny of siblings for any sign of radicalization, maybe a modified version of the British 1919 Aliens act would be appropriate.

The Polish government has the responsibility of keeping it's citizens safe from being murdered, this must take priority over any other considerations when it comes to migrants / refugees.

10iwonka10
15 Jul 2016  #2481

I would say it has quite much to do with Poland and any UE country.

It is one big union without border - Today France tomorrow Germany, Poland.....

Marsupial
15 Jul 2016  #2482

It could be perceived that way so on one level it belongs here. On the other hand france has long ago lost the plot. Entire no go areas where there is no law or police, massive drug trafficking and arms trafficking, centuries long conflict involving colonies in Africa and elswhere, meddling by their intelligence agemcies in countries......these conditions don't exist in poland so on that level it isn't that relevant.

nothanks
15 Jul 2016  #2483

It does appear that these attacks are carried out by migrants or the offspring of migrants.

One TV news source stated they are considering felonies for Pro-Jihadist online speech. Felony? They already struggle with employment, you might as well deport them at that point.

mafketis
15 Jul 2016  #2484

these conditions don't exist in poland so on that level it isn't that relevant.

But France and Germany are the models that the EU wants to push on all new member states. So.... relevant.

nothanks
15 Jul 2016  #2485

I do not blame level headed citizens of said nations being resentful over helping Poland economically while we "only" take in Ukrainian refugees [most Europeans are unaware anyway]

Poland is open to White Flight eastward. More favorable terms.

dolnoslask
15 Jul 2016  #2486

Schengen is currently suspended in Poland for NATO meetings and world youth day. All this proves there is a perceived threat to Poland by association with the EU and Nato so it is relevant.

"I do not blame level headed citizens of said nations being resentful over helping Poland "

Why should others be resentful of Poland,? If other nations leaders are weak and not protecting their people from terrorist infiltration and radicalization that is not of Poland's doing.

Maybe level headed citizens of other EU countries should look to leadership change and if necessary exit from the EU regulation that encourages and facilitates terrorist infiltration.

nothanks
15 Jul 2016  #2487

No arguments from me. I felt France dropped the ball in their 2nd Round voting missing out on Le Pen.

dolnoslask
15 Jul 2016  #2488

Britain voted for Brexit mainly due to migration / asylum seeking concerns many other EU countries may follow.

I for one would never like to see the rise of the far right or left in Europe.

"Level headed citizens" need to face up to the facts and step up to the challenge, there maybe some tough decisions to be taken and yes as usual the genuine refugee will suffer, but citizens have the right to live in safety and this should be the priority at this time.

10iwonka10
15 Jul 2016  #2489

but citizens have the right to live in safety and this should be the priority at this time

Some 'lefties' will not agree with you :-)

mafketis
15 Jul 2016  #2490

I for one would never like to see the rise of the far right or left in Europe.

neither would I, but the leaders of the EU and some countries (cough France cough Germany) are making it clear that they are willing to ignore the will of the people and are doing everything they can to make peaceful change impossible. That leaves violence (which I do not support). Without some major changes I expect indigenous insurrections in Western Europe within a few years. My best guess is that France, Austria or Sweden will be first.


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