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Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees



johnny reb
13 Apr 2017  #2731

Forming the EU was the worst thing Europe could have done. (A slow death)
Poland knows this but money is talking momentarily for Poland.
With the Brexit and soon France to follow when Marine le Pen gets elected.
She already said that she would deport all the immigrants that are on the watch list.
Gee, sounds framiliar........MAKE FRANCE GREAT AGAIN !

Lyzko
13 Apr 2017  #2732

By the same token, would you have preferred a Divided States of America??
I somehow don't think so. A war was fought (AND WON!!) over such, you know.

Joker
13 Apr 2017  #2733

Gee, sounds framiliar........MAKE FRANCE GREAT AGAIN !

If it happens in a Liberal country like France. It could mean the beginning of the end of the PC culture.

No more coddling and safe rooms......ViVa La France!!

@lyzko
By the same token, would you have preferred a Divided States of America??

Obama already done this

johnny reb
13 Apr 2017  #2734

Marine le Pen will close the borders of France if she gets elected.
That should just about finish off the EU.
She is the only hope France has left.
It will be a chain reaction that will give Poland a way to bow out without owing a Euro to anyone.

Ironside
13 Apr 2017  #2735

La Pen won't get elected. I mean she won't become the next president. France has its military and special forces that are pretty good and not leftie at all.

Forming or what has become the EU is a failure - no two ways about it.

cms
13 Apr 2017  #2736

60 years of peace and some of the highest living standards and most equal societies in the world. if that is failing then like the vast majority of EU citizens I will accept this abject failure.

You stick with winner Trump and tell us how it goes

spiritus
13 Apr 2017  #2737

La Pen won't get elected. I mean she won't become the next president.

Yes. She will not win. Ignore the hype.

The media were getting whipped up into a frenzy about the Dutch Far Right candidate but he came nowhere close to winning. We are still a generation away I think from a far right leader in one of the world's major economies.

I'm not even sure I want any success for the Far Right. Voting for any party that shared ideals with Nazism is hard for me to swallow but the problem is that our leaders are so far to the Left that people need to see a reaction against that.

TicTacToe
13 Apr 2017  #2738

20 EU countries take out more € than they put in to the pot. Only 3 place more in than they take out UK, Germany and the Netherlands.

Brexit will never happen and Trump will never win. The youth support Marine Le Pen not the old. Marcon is the Blair of French politics.

I hope she wins and so do many young French citizens.

Yah yah racist fascist and all. Yet it is Juncker and other leaders who are the real Nazis​, history proves that.

cms
13 Apr 2017  #2739

Incorrect - Finland, Austria, France, Denmark and I think Italy are also net contributors. Source Pro brexit Daily Telegraph

It might be only 7 countries but it is over 50 percent of the population.

But in any case, like most Brexit voters you view this only in simple terms. It is not just a zero sum game about who pays what, rather even for the net contributors there are benefits in trade and security that dwarf the few hundred euro a year that each of their citizens must pay for membership.

I know that is too many syllables for a typical Brexit voter but you will find out more about in the next few years first hand.

TicTacToe
13 Apr 2017  #2740

Enough with the brexaphobia attack.

static6.uk.businessinsider.com/image/5867be926c9b191a008b4c8f-538/eu-funding.jpg

cms
13 Apr 2017  #2741

But that diagram you link to shows 9 net contributors - those which I mentioned plus Sweden. The blue crosses are hidden in the green bars. In those 9 countries countries are 300m - more than 50 percent of the population.

I know you Brexit voters have had enough of experts but let me give you some advice - you will need both hands to count the blue crosses.

In November the U.K. Govt had to borrow an extra 23bn to cover the initial budget shortfalls caused by Brexit - that is already 2x your annual contribution, and money that your kids will have to repay in the future.

Awesome that you guys got to decide the future of the nation

Please focus on Poland

TicTacToe
13 Apr 2017  #2742

Read my first post correctly you'll see I'm correct.

Poland being the highest benefactor, that's the green bar. Net contributions the blue cross is how much the UK and Germany pay in, which is substantially more than the negative of most members.

One thing you are correct in is that it will be the uk nation state that decides it's future, not a group of Nazi Aryan children experimenting on other EU member states.

cms
13 Apr 2017  #2743

I read it again and you are still wrong - 9 pay more in than they take out. How could they be net contributors otherwise ?

Of course Poland is the biggest recipient - it is by far the largest of the new countries.

You support Le Pen and Call the EU Nazis ?

Joker
13 Apr 2017  #2744

Brexit will never happen and Trump will never win

Famous last words, we heard this before!

Make France Great Again!

I hope she wins and so do many young French citizens.

America stands with you

Marine le Pen will close the borders of France if she gets elected.

Its about time they stand up against the thug terrorists!

TheOther
13 Apr 2017  #2745

Of course Poland is the biggest recipient - it is by far the largest of the new countries.

It has always worked like that. New members received a gazillion Euros to get them on their feet, and once the economy was running they could start becoming net payers and support the system. The EU hasn't hurt Poland economically, but a breaking-apart of the union certainly will.

Yes. She will not win. Ignore the hype.

You've got that one right. Le Pen won't succeed because of the way the French electoral system is set up.

America stands with you

From the distance with a big orange mouth... :)

Marsupial
15 Apr 2017  #2746

There was this nationalistic thing world wide. We had it here too by electing the dumbest prime minister ever, he is gome now and his replacement from the same party has the worse polls ever. Looks like we are done with them. The Dutch rejected theirs. The germans will reject theirs. Usa will reject trump next election and pis...lol. the only country stuck with dumb right wing trash and school failures will be the uk. Oh btw the nhs is doing so well since gyppo farange and retard johnson promised.

Meanwhile Poland will not eccept these refugees just more from ukraine and i hope to see them all resettled in the uk/ usa to build new mosques.

TicTacToe
15 Apr 2017  #2747

If the EU and the left promise of utopia is so good, please explain to me in English if you can, why it is being rejected by so many ??.

Please not the typical racist rant or brexaphobia thanks.

delphiandomine
15 Apr 2017  #2748

why it is being rejected by so many ??.

Where? You're posting about Poland, where the EU enjoys between 70-80% support.

TicTacToe
15 Apr 2017  #2749

I was asking Marsupial, the Australian idiot not you.

nothanks
15 Apr 2017  #2750

60 years of peace

A) "60 years of peace" - thanks to USA and USSR bullying us

B) "Some of the highest living standards" - duh, we are White or at least were. Notice those living standards are declining in step with the White population. Replaced by the 3rd World

C) "Most equal" - USA is the most equal and illustrates the correlation with: most equal = most crime

Trump will get re-elected and have an airport named after him. The more he bombs, the more his approval rating increases. China just stopped importing Korean coal in favor of American coal - thumbs up for American jobs. Oh and no racially fueled riots like under open-minded Obama. Justice requires a firm hand - America is safer

cms
15 Apr 2017  #2751

The USSR did not exist for 26 of those 60 years. Ex Commie countries that were on the path to the EU remained peaceful. Those that were not have been consumed by war and political volatility - Serbia, Ukraine, Georgia, etc

Venezuela, Belarus, Macedonia, Armenia - all white. How are the living standards ? Not that it is even worth arguing with such a dumb point.

The US is a far less equal society than every EU member.

The EU is being rejected by four groups - old people, uneducated people, racists and ideologues - or people who are some combination of those. But thus far it shows no signs of breaking up - that is a fantasy to think it will fall apart just because some barely numerate British pensioners decided to vote to leave.

If you want to re-elect Trump then go ahead - its your choice.

nothanks
15 Apr 2017  #2752

- War? Most EU nations are incapable of even handling violent refugees. We no longer kill/eliminate each other but our communities increasingly have more minorities [and people can't afford more children because they are busy working to keep afloat the social net allowing ethnics to breed like cockroaches]. What's the difference? Either way we are being eliminated from our Native lands

- Of course it's a dumb point to you because you probably consider Nigerians living in Europe to be White too. Cultures and races aren't equal and the more 3rd World the EU imports - the more our societies and cultures assimilate to their backwards ways.

- Current day USA is far and away the most equal and open minded civilization in History. And it is not even close.

- The EU is supported by four groups - youth living with their parents, liberal arts majors, self-hating Whites and ideologues - or people who are some combination of those

I never said I'm for or against the EU. The main problems in the EU are easy fixes but leftist are constantly derailing us with their ethnic loving. Most problems in the EU are because of liberal ideals. So the fix is simple: get more diverse thought in Brussels.

delphiandomine
15 Apr 2017  #2753

But thus far it shows no signs of breaking up - that is a fantasy to think it will fall apart just because some barely numerate British pensioners decided to vote to leave.

I think it's actually the best thing that could have happened to the EU. The "awkward" member has now gone, leaving the EU to implement badly needed reforms that the UK kept blocking. The only other two awkward countries - Poland and Hungary - can easily be persuaded to shut up by reminding them that the funds can dry up if they don't cooperate.

The EU is supported by four groups - youth living with their parents, liberal arts majors, self-hating Whites and ideologues - or people who are some combination of those

The EU is supported by between 70-80% of Polish people. If you have such a negative view of Poland, it's time to leave this forum.

It's always easy to tell a pro-Russian fool though, because they come on forums about Poland and try and convince us that the EU is evil.

cms
15 Apr 2017  #2754

A quick google of income inequality will show you that each of the 28 member countries of the EU is more equal than the US. The least equal member, Ireland, is still far more equal than the US.

That is one of many reasons why people that live in the EU value it.

You are obsessed with race so it might be an idea to find a pure white supremacist forum where you can rant about it until your tiny heart is content.

spiritus
15 Apr 2017  #2755

If you have such a negative view of Poland, it's time to leave this forum.

<cough> really ??

nothanks
15 Apr 2017  #2756

pro-Russian fool

white supremacist

How much is George Soros paying you to post here?

delphiandomine
15 Apr 2017  #2757

How amusingly predictable.

Now, please explain the 70-80% of support for the EU in Poland, please.

nothanks
15 Apr 2017  #2758

Source?

dolnoslask
15 Apr 2017  #2759

please explain the 70-80% of support for the EU in Poland, please

They have pumped a pile of cash into Poland of course they have support, including mine , but once the cash dries up and any kind of moronic EU demands come our way {without a good cash pay out} well of course people may change their minds, I might too.

delphiandomine
15 Apr 2017  #2760

Source?

thenews.pl/1/10/Artykul/297799,Poles-support-EU-membership-survey

Seventy-five percent of Poles support their country's membership of the European Union, according to a survey by the Dziennik Gazeta Prawna daily.

Get out, Russian troll.


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