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Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees



Polonius3
18 Apr 2017  #2821

internet

They may have watched Polish TV over the net. Dunno much aboit German or Swedish TV but Polish TV provides extensive coverage on the war in Syria, terrorist acts world-wide and all aspects of the migrant crisis. I don't know to what extent these are censored in indivudal countries. How about where you are compared to Polish coverage? Do you get a sense of PC-managed news?

Crow
19 Apr 2017  #2822

EU behave as restless nymphomaniac

gregy741
24 Apr 2017  #2823

"Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees"
what asylum seekers? only 2.6% of them are asylum seekers.
breitbart.com/london/2017/04/24/report-only-2-65-percent-of-immigrants-into-italy-are-refugees/

so stupid Italians,who whine most about relocation,bring hundred of thousands illegals from the coast of Lybia,and then let them go roam Europe committing crimes and such.Madness

Lyzko
24 Apr 2017  #2824

On the other hand, Maf, not all migrants are freeloaders either. One bad ruling penalized everyone, the innocent along with the guilty. It is really worth the arbitrary injustice in the long run? I think not:-)

mafketis
24 Apr 2017  #2825

On the other hand, Maf, not all migrants are freeloaders either

Of course not. But no society can withstand an endless inflow of large amounts of low-skilled labor (and for every migrant that's reached Europe in the last three years there are at least 20 more waiting in the wings).

The result in Europe is that centrists get frozen out and all you have left are the extremes and those who feel excluded an marginalized by the process (the indigenous working classes) will explode sooner or later (you can't keep the lid on a pressure cooker while you keep turning up the heat).

You seem to think that if everybody just holds on a little longer then things will (somehow) work out. I am under no such delusion. Unless governments in Western Europe start chaning unpopular policies there will be citizen uprisings and probably war.

Lyzko
24 Apr 2017  #2826

...which is why Mme. Le Pen is likely to win, so too Frau Petry if the SPD doesn't finally get it's bloody house in order!!!!!

mafketis
24 Apr 2017  #2827

...which is why Mme. Le Pen is likely to win

Not this time. Macron is probably an establishment trojan horse who will continue unpopular strategies. But he'll probably win. But if he doesn't take on unpopular policies people will feel tricked and within a few months Le Pen will be the only viable opposition (the longer nationalists are kept out of office the more toxic the nationalism will be when they do get into office).

By cutting off relatively moderate nationalists, the establishment is creating extreme nationalists.

jon357
24 Apr 2017  #2828

relatively moderate nationalists

Fillon might fit that description, Le Pen certainly doesn't.

Crow
24 Apr 2017  #2829

Hand on heart, I feel fear from EU. Frightens me cold, morbid and merciless destruction of Slavs by EU. EU`s unprecedented meddling seriously endangering future of Slavs in Poland and in entire Europe.

mafketis
24 Apr 2017  #2830

Fillon might fit that description

And the establishment ganged up to destroy him... A Fillon presidency might have given vent to some of the pressures building in France. A Macron presidency won't and makes the prospect of a Le Pen presidency all the more likely.

jon357
24 Apr 2017  #2831

the establishment ganged up to destroy hi

Fillon is very much part of the establishment. Of course he didn't exactly help his own cause, as the corruption allegations show.

Macron is a good choice. A centrist and a person with vision.

Extremists like Le Pen, Petry etc, just inflame issues and twist the refugee issue in order to appeal to certain base instincts among their potential voters. Heartening that AfD's support has plummeted.

mafketis
24 Apr 2017  #2832

Macron is a good choice. A centrist and a person with vision.

He's a neoliberal, a stale dead vision.

Extremists like Le Pen, Petry etc, just inflame issues

Now _you_ sound like a PRL flunkey talking about Solidarity....

Heartening that AfD's support has plummeted.

Why are you against a political spectrum?

jon357
24 Apr 2017  #2833

stale dead vision.

Evidently not that stale or dead, given that he got the most votes.

Polonius3
24 Apr 2017  #2834

Extremists...just inflame issues

That may be true but you also an extremist supporting as you do extreme PC and multi-culti views that are anti-patriotic, anti-religious, anti-family, altersexual and pro-deviate and therefore societally destabilising. Except rarely does an extremist admit to being one. Remember the old adage: One man's pudding is....

jon357
24 Apr 2017  #2835

views

As we can see from the defeat of the far right in France and the collapse of the ultra-conservatives in Germany, the views that disturb you so much are mainstream.

mafketis
24 Apr 2017  #2836

As we can see from the defeat of the far right in France

The "defeat" was their best ever result. And note that many gay people support Le Pen (because they know that muslims on the whole would like to throw them off of tall buildings).

jon357
24 Apr 2017  #2837

result

Fortunately insufficient. The current prediction is that the people's choice Emmanuel Macron will defeat the racist Le Pen by a good margin.

gay people

Is relevant to what?

Ironside
24 Apr 2017  #2838

will defeat the racist Le Pen

Just stop it! Enough of this commie BS.

jon357
24 Apr 2017  #2839

Enough

So you don't think an outspokenly racist politician is racist?

mafketis
24 Apr 2017  #2840

That insult has been blanched of all meaning through years of hysterical overuse. For me, the term has become meaningless noise.

Find some new way of saying what you don't like about the politician in question and maybe people will pay attention.

jon357
24 Apr 2017  #2841

For me, the term has become meaningless noise.

For many in this world it is an unpleasant reality that they have to fight.

Wulkan
24 Apr 2017  #2842

Just stop it! Enough of this commie BS.

In regressive's dictionary, day without calling someone racist is a wasted day, don't you know that?

johnny reb
24 Apr 2017  #2843

it is an unpleasant reality that they have to fight.

They don't have to fight, they could just accept what is is understanding there is a pecking order in the food chain.
What a bigoted racist redneck hillbilly thing to say will be next coming from you.

the term has become meaningless noise.

Plus +1
Worn out to say the least.
No shock value anymore.
Calling me names changes nothing.
You are a Bleeding Heart Liberal Lefty and I am a bigot..........and ?

jon357
24 Apr 2017  #2844

a pecking order in the food chain.

Do tell...

Lyzko
24 Apr 2017  #2845

Seems then that the French have more common sense than we Americans, surprise, surprise:-) Hope the Germans follow suit. I mean whom have they got on the side of centrism aside from Merkel? Schulz's too far left for many, too Eurocentrist for AfD, but Sigmar Gabriel has his own issues as well.

nothanks
24 Apr 2017  #2846

Extremists like Le Pen, Petry etc, just inflame issues

Western Europe needs a serious house cleaning. Boot out the undocumented and force those that remain to assimilate. It would get uglier at first but a quick fix isn't possible. Instead it seems in electing more globalist - Western Europe wants to sprint down the opposite direction and assimilate to these 3rd Worlders.

Poland sitting more pretty by the day.

Lyzko
24 Apr 2017  #2847

Over eighty years ago, another politician too called for a similar sort of "house cleaning" with a Master Plan which involved purifying a certain race, punishing harshly "racial pollution" and embarking upon the most malignantly barbaric path yet seen!!

Can't common sense and decency be allowed to prevail?

jon357
24 Apr 2017  #2848

@Lyzko
Fascists always lose in the end, and the moderate majority have no intention of letting the past be repeated.

Lyzko
24 Apr 2017  #2849

Let's you and I hope, pray, then pray some more, friend.

mafketis
24 Apr 2017  #2850

Can't common sense and decency be allowed to prevail?

I would like that, but Merkel, Junkcers et all would need to find some common sense and decency. Proposing that countries prioritize their citizens' needs before those of random foreigners is now now common sense and decency?


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