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Crow
13 Aug 2019  #541

more made up lies and BS, prove it Crow?

He won't.Because it is BS.

Spot it >

Serbian nanny to the Trump children in the 1980s dies aged 85 in Belgrade
> twitter.com/dailymail/status/811937269246476288
> dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4058416/Serbian-nanny-Trump-children-1980s-attended-military-academy-carried-gun-dies-aged-85-Belgrade.html#ixzz4TZh2nFuY
> arhiva.vesti-online.com/Vesti/Drustvo/613171/Odgajila-sam-Trampove-sinove

Teaching Trump`s children to speak Serbian and Serbian ethno songs >

> telegraf.rs/vesti/beograd/2468293-mister-tramp-je-voleo-sto-mu-decu-cuva-srpkinja-evo-kako-je-baka-milka-ucila-trampove-klince-da-govore-srpski-video
> telegraf.rs/vesti/beograd/2466621-trampova-deca-obozavaju-lepu-lukic-ovu-njenu-pesmu-sam-im-pevala-dok-sam-ih-cuvala-video

Miloslaw
13 Aug 2019  #542

Teaching Trump`s children to speak Serbian and Serbian ethno songs

She worked for Ivana, who is Czech.
Melania would never have employed a Serb.

Joker
13 Aug 2019  #543

She worked for Ivana, who is Czech.

It was back in the1980`s

Tiffany Trump was born in 1993, so she had to learn these songs in Utero! LOL

Hey, Crow

Trump changed his mind about letting Blago out of prison! Hahahahahahaaaa

Crow
13 Aug 2019  #544

Everybody f**** Blago. Its not news.

Miloslaw
13 Aug 2019  #545

I tried Google translate, but it didn't help.....

Joker
14 Aug 2019  #546

Everybody f**** Blago. Its not news.

Then why did you start 2 threads about him?

https://polishforums.com/archives/2005-2009/usa-canada/americans-think-case-illinois-gov-rod-30621/#msg588160
https://polishforums.com/usa-canada/poles-slavs-celebrate-participate-49301/2/#msg1635735

I would have paid good money to see the look on Blago`s face today as they brought him into the Prison processing room for release and at the last second...Nope he (Trump) changed his mind!

Sorry Blago, back to your cell!

chicagotribune.com/columns/eric-zorn/ct-column-blagojevich-trump-pardon-justice-zorn-20190813-us6twzxqabht3jwa7elxwaltqq-story.html

A lot of ppl don't want him getting out because of the serious nature and stupidity of his crimes, what an idiot! LOLOL

Rich Mazur
14 Aug 2019  #547

Sorry Blago, back to your cell!

Quoting: The average amount of time people released from prison for murder have served is about 16 years.
Blago's 14 for saying stupid sh*t is a bit too harsh.

Joker
14 Aug 2019  #548

Well, he did shake down a children's hospital before he tried to sell Obamas Senate seat. You got love Illinois Politicians, most of them get thrown in jail eventually.

Blago, was like the Barney Fife white collar criminals. I cant imagine another Serb being elected for any public office ever again. lol


  • illinoisblagojail.jpg

Vesko Vukovic
14 Aug 2019  #549

The daughter of Rod, Amy Blagojevich, wrote an emotional & scathing letter to Obama calling him spineless and selfish for not pardoning her dad in his last day at office. She says how she lost all respect for him and that he broke her heart.

chicago.suntimes.com/2017/1/27/18351389/blagojevich-daughter-spineless-obama-has-broken-my-heart

nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/Blagojevichs-Daughter-Writes-Letter-to-Obama-After-Father-Not-On-Last-Batch-of-Commutations-411921355.html

It was a waste of time writing to Barrack Hussein Obama, she should have written to Donald Trump instead.

Vesko Vukovic
14 Aug 2019  #550

@Joker

The libtards are having a nervous breakdown over the Serbian trip of Tiffany Trump & her entourage. :)

qz.com/1583078/how-much-tiffany-trumps-serbian-vacation-cost-taxpayers/

bustle.com/p/tiffany-trumps-spring-break-in-serbia-reportedly-cost-taxpayers-a-huge-chunk-of-change-16999655

aol.com/article/news/2019/03/30/tiffany-trumps-spring-break-trip-to-serbia-reportedly-cost-us-dollar23000/23703115/

Joker
14 Aug 2019  #551

The libtards are having a nervous breakdown

Thats just a drop in the bucket compared to what the Dems (Nancy Pelosi) spends on her junkets...

libertyheadlines.com/pelosis-luxurious-trips-taxpayers-millions-military

It odd that the Libtards don't complain when they spend millions of $$$ on lavish trips on our dime??

It was a waste of time writing to Barrack Hussein Obama,

He only responds to Beyonce, JayZ and members of his Hollywood elite circle. She should have wrote to Oprah and had a better chance.

Crow
14 Aug 2019  #552

So in this moment the Vatican should not be in the priority of your concerns

But it is. I`m here focusing to open wide dialogue with Poles and provide them information. Vatican`s actions against Serbs, publicly, needs to be understand as clash with Orthodoxy and with it against Russia- its always in the air. Behind curtain, actually, what is never said publicly, Vatican chooses to support Germanic and generally western European interests over the interests of Slavs, Poland included.

Essentially, I am on position that Vatican represent crucial tool against Poland. That is how western Europe control Poles, hold them, manipulate them, using, etc. Then after all, Vatican as it is seek to control whatever is possible to control and use.

Now, considering my interest in Intermarium or Central European Union, I would like to see it as independent and strong power among other global powers. But that simple isn`t possible without Polish national Catholic Church. Poles must have their open and secured autonomy within Catholic world. Direct subjugation to Vatican would make Central European Union sort of satellite to Vatican and western Europe.

After all, look how Yugoslavia collapsed. Vatican`t cleric network was activated, Catholics stooped to be content with state, turned to outside powers and everything collapsed. Not to speak that Germanics in agreement from Vatican creating Croatian nation separating Catholic Serbs from Orthodox.

Let Poles be aware that Vatican more love Germanics, Francos and Anglos, then love Poland and Poles. In fact, if so, is there love for Poland at all?

See. Only cure is to help Poles to understand necessity for Polish national Catholic Church. That if we want to survive, all of us. If we wants to accept to exist as vegetables, its fine to accept subjugation, assimilation and extinction.

Miloslaw
14 Aug 2019  #553

Vatican chooses to support Germanic and generally western European interests over the interests of Slavs, Poland included.

Show us some proof of this.

I am on position that Vatican represent crucial tool against Poland

Again, where is your proof?

Let Poles be aware that Vatican more love Germanics, Francos and Anglos

Why would they love Protestant Anglos more than Catholic Poles?????

Yet more nonsense from Crow....... just wanting Poles to liberate themselves from The Vatican so that Orthodox influences will have a better chance of subjucating them...... Crow, we can see right through you.... why do you bother?

I was brought up as a good Catholic boy but am an Atheist now.

Joker
15 Aug 2019  #554

Again, where is your proof?

When Pigs fly!

Yet more nonsense from Crow

Hey, this could be his ghost writer again that creates the semi coherent posts. Wait until tomorrow when the real Crow comes back and his gibberish intensifies....

Crow, we can see right through you

Like a chunk of Swiss cheese:)

Miloslaw
15 Aug 2019  #555

Hey, this could be his ghost writer again

I have thought that too.
I think "Crow" is more than one person.

Crow
15 Aug 2019  #556

Show us some proof of this.

When Pigs fly!

I will answer with the rhetorical question. That is, where is the religious center for Polish Catholics? Where is the one who hold strings and canonize saints?

In Rome. In Italy. In Vatican. Outside of Poland. Pope sits and consults with some people and sending directives to Poland. By the God, Poland was more free during madman Stalin.

People, let us talk reasonably. Let Poland have at least hint of independence by having national Catholic Church, fully autonomous from Vatican.

pawian
15 Aug 2019  #557

Patriotic Serbs are on a mission to lobby for their cause everywhere possible. I am sure they also post in other fora and share accounts with each other. Crow`s posts seem different, indeed. Some are written in a clear, error-free manner, other not.

It is nothing reprehensible.

Crow
15 Aug 2019  #558

@pawian
See, thank you.

Great truth is that example of Yugoslavia serve as best possible proof what could happen to future Central European Union. The moment Vatican or some power decide to play on ``Catholic`` card in order to stop functioning of CEU, Central European Union is no more.

Same was/is with Yugoslavian Muslims who had religious center outside. Islamic powers moved finger and our local Muslims dance.

But if you want to live in illusion, thanks but no thanks. That would go without Serbians, this time. We aren`t naive anymore.

Crnogorac3
15 Aug 2019  #559

@Crow

In order to find salvation for our people it was necessary to fight two evils:

youtu.be/ueu76fauOm8

youtu.be/Qj7bBBygm5Q

Crow
15 Aug 2019  #560

First reason why these days official Poland refusing to support Serbians is exactly because Serbians aren`t able to tolerate Vatican`s behavior in silence. So Serbians openly speak about Vatican`s doing and non-doing and official Poland took stance that we understand as pressure on Serbia.

Is that honorable stance of official Poland? No, not at all. Is that even wise from official Poland. Not wise. For what is Poland? Poland is but set of numerous Slavs that live in one state, Poles, Kashubs, Lusatians, Silesians, etc. Official Poland is one thing and our sisters and brothers of Poland are something else. They won`t tolerate leadership of Poland that betrayed Serbians and Poland itself.

Miloslaw
15 Aug 2019  #561

Poland refusing to support Serbians is exactly because Serbians aren`t able to tolerate Vatican`s behavior

And here is your problem Crow.
You are never going to change that......

Crow
15 Aug 2019  #562

My problem?

I merely announcing. Changes will happen. History already accelerate and don`t wait for anybody.

In order to find salvation for our people it was necessary to fight two evils:

Thanks for the links :)

Tacitus
23 Aug 2019  #563

@Crow

Have you actually read what this statement includes?

Secretary Pompeo encouraged Serbia [,,,] resuming negotiations with Kosovo on a comprehensive normalization agreement centered on mutual recognition.

So in short, Pompeo tells Serbia that they have to recognize Kosovo. And to Serbia's credit, there are more and more signs that Serbian politicians are preparing their people for this step.

reuters.com/article/us-serbia-kosovo/accept-reality-serbia-does-not-control-kosovo-vucic-idUSKCN1SX1U2

This reminds me strongly of how Willy Brandt prepared the West Germans to accept the Oder-Neisse line. It is now hopefully only a matter of time now until Serbia accepts the reality and rejoins the group of civilized nations.

Crow
23 Aug 2019  #564

So in short, Pompeo tells Serbia

Until now USA only spoke that Serbia must recognize Kosovo. Key word now is ``agreement ``. Yes, Serbia suggest agreement and agree with USA on this. Or to say, USA agree with Serbia that talks about real borders have to occur. Now, who knows where are those borders ..... if you understand me. We will see.

Tacitus
23 Aug 2019  #565

You are inventing things. The USA said Serbia has to reach an agreement with Kosovo , not with the USA, in the form of a mutual recognition. Nothing about a supposed change of borders.

Crow
23 Aug 2019  #566

You really think Serbia is that cornered? Man, you don`t understand. I think that are today Germany`s borders more questionable then Serbia`s borders. I mean, in sense of reduction and partition. Look how US giving up from EU and from NATO. And why not. Germany and western Europe used it for their own projects and now US (ie most powerful US magnates) entering in talks to correct things.

Serbia is about to expand, not to be smaller.

Tacitus
24 Aug 2019  #567

You really think Serbia is that cornered?

This is not what I think. Just don't post any links while claiming things that are not at all backed up by its' content.

Remember, that is what you intially claimed:

USA policy that now abandoned idea of Kosovo`s sovereignty

While the link says that the USA wants Serbia to recognize Kosovo's sovereignity.

Crow
24 Aug 2019  #568

Link says that USA wants agreement,talk to Serbia, smile on Serbia, handshake and all that.... Until now USA asked solely recognition and pressured Serbia, didn`t talk to Serbia. See? That`s progress to me.

Plus, I know what you don`t know.

And, BDW, Lusatia will be free.

ahahahah hahahah hahaha You can`t even imagine what all was topic of Pompeo and Vucic.

Crow
24 Aug 2019  #569

Info - maybe crucial to some - Cure for cancer - share info, some are maybe desperate and this works, many says.

Monks from Serbian Orthodox Hilandar monastery on Atos (Greece) giving as gift cure for cancer to all who are in need. Cure is workable. You don`t need to be Orthodox to ask for cure. They giving it also to Catholics, Protestants, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, atheists, etc. To all. As gift and refuse payment. People coming from round the world.

Cure is made essentially from the plant `kozlac`. Monks even offering recipe to pharmaceutical companies for free but companies aren't interested.

NOTE: Kozlac (Lat. Arum maculatum) > en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arum_maculatum >

Crow
29 Aug 2019  #570

Merged:

Serbia`s President and PM criticized Poland for not inviting Serbia to ceremony of 80 years since WWII



Asked by journalist about Poland`s decision not to invite Serbia to ceremony that marks 80 years since the beginning of WWII, Serbia`s President Aleksandar Vucic said: ``But many from the other side will come and that`s alright.... /pause/ Thank them. Nothing else.``

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"It is really sad that Vucic has not been invited... Serbia launches offensive"

"At this point, this seems rather sad. Nowadays, daily political issues prevail over irrefutable history and historical facts", Prime Minister Ana Brnabic stated



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