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Crow
24 Nov 2018  #121

Poland found itself into vice of two powers. Due to internal faults of its own.

Exactly.

Serbia was for very long between Austria, Ottomans and Russia. Not to speak of German, French and British direct and indirect access.

But Serbia avoided traps. Poland didn`t. Sure, Serbia paid price. But say that Poland didn`t pay price by being more cooperative.

Let those power grow and to work hand in hand to cut Poland down

Just analyze Serbian responds to similar situations.

1* Russia make sh**, we say how Russia did it but avoid hostilities.

2* Russia do something good for us, we praise Russia and connects from Russians and increase our influence within Russia. Next time Russia think twice before mistake on us.

3* Serbs never side by side with non-Slavs attacked Russia. Only as internal Slavic thing Serbs sided with Poles in critical situation against Russia. It caused Russia in addition damage to ruling elite, because due to principle policy, Russian people tend to love Serbs- common Russians don`t see Serbians as enemy but as Slavic brothers (first Slavic and then comes the Orthodoxy which isn`t determining factor).

4* Serbs have interest that survive western European pressure and offers serious resistance when invaded by hostile non-Slavs. Russia see that and have its own reasons to keep conflicts with non-Slavs far from Russian borders and so Russia coming in our aid.

5* Official Poland for long don`t have consistent policy within Slavic world. Nobody knows what Poland want. That irritate Russia and Poles looks untrustworthy. So, Russians avoiding serious deal with Poles. probably that isb reasons why they tolerate Serb-Polish deals because official Russia don`t trust to Poland. Now, when Russia see how official Poland f**** Serbs, will trust to Poland even less.

6* Inconsistent Poland`s policy irritate all Slavs. That is why smaller Serbia have in comparison to Polish influence, tremendous influence on other Slavs. Awake Czech in the middle of night, or Hungarian or Bulgarian or Romanian or anybody. They all know what are Serbian ideals. Some love it, some don`t but, they all knows that Serbs don`t lie.

7* If foreign power order so, Poland easily betray and forget old friends

etc.

Here is example of Poland`s policy. See, Polish elite is aware of Poland`s problem. Something like it is impossible in Serbia to happen. I think that I don`t post to provoke you but that I speak due to brotherly feelings fro Poles, with aim to positively change Poland (naive me) >

Kosovo and the Polish Diplomatic Embarrassment
Agnieszka Skieterska
26 lutego 2008 | 00:00

wyborcza.pl/1,76842,4965759.html?disableRedirects=true

Kosovo's independence ....... when it finally happened, on 17 February, Warsaw sank into chaos. The cabinet was in favour of Kosovo's independence, the President against it..... It is such gestures that show whether a diplomacy has class. Poland's obviously doesn't.


Crow
24 Nov 2018  #122

Serbia alone is just a small Balkan country and nothing else.

Not only Balkan but also Central European. Plus, just wait, we soon entering in era of reclamation. Who knows where would we end once we move. We are like crazy machine. Hard to move but when we move.... you know how it was on Thessaloniki front- when we moved, we ended up caching Bulgaria and A-H and liberating all regional Serbs and South Slavs from A-H and ended all the way at Vienna, Alps and Trieste.

A Japanese professor at the school of medicine in Tokyo, chief of the Japanese Red Cross mission in Paris during the First World War, said in his speech (this remark entered in Japanese military Encyclopedia) >

"Until this war, we, the Japanese, enjoyed the reputation of being the soldiers with the strongest spirit of warriorship. This time, we have to admit that the Serbian soldier has taken this primacy from us."

He also added: ``Don't mind, dear Serbs, that we are also slightly jealous of that.``

Ironside
24 Nov 2018  #123

But Serbia avoided traps.

You're talking no sense. Serbia is an insignificant small country in a obscure corner of the world - geopolitically not very important. Never was. There is no comparison.

Bratwurst Boy
24 Nov 2018  #124

Plus, just wait, we soon entering in era of reclamation.

An "era of reclamation" would put Europe back to where it has been in WWI and WWII...you can't seriously want that.

If you believe Serbia would come out somehow "winning" you are seriously mistaken...

There is this thing called "nostalgia", that longing back to a history seen through rosy glasses. We all indulge it, now and then...even if that means totally different histories for many people. But believe me, this "glorious past" never existed, not for the people living through it. It's all an illusion!

Wanting an illusion back won't make your todays misery better in any way. Better concentrate on today's real problems and try to work on them!

Crow
24 Nov 2018  #125

Eh, you should tell it to Germany, Austria, France and Britain. They invading and sponsor their local satellites. And you now expect Serbs not to respond??? Now when situation already looks pretty similar to that before WWI or even WWII.

But look what happening on Kosovo right now. Shquiptars (ie Albanians- as western Europe invented name to them) again molest local Kosovo Serbs. When Serbia respond, they will cry. What EU doing to prevent Shquiptars not to molest Serbs? Nothing. See? EU behave same as Ferdinand and A-H did. EU wants to die, too.

So, forget it. Instead you just tell me your venerable opinion, would 100 Serbian tanks be enough to pacify region this time and end all that western European sh** and schemes. Or maybe 200-300 our tanks. Or maybe all 1000?

BDW, prepare popcorn.

Bratwurst Boy
24 Nov 2018  #126

I think I can guarantee that Germany doesn't want these times back!

The existence of the EU is actually the most prominent proof that it's members don't want these "bad 'ol times" back...

would 100 Serbian tanks be enough to pacify region this time

Probably. That act of agression would end Serbia as we know it. A kind of pacification of this region you surely don't want!

Crow
24 Nov 2018  #127

Then all is fine. Germany and EU will give order to local Albanians (Shquiptars) that they stop provocations and attacks on Kosovo Serbs in attempt to exterminate them and we all will be happy, we will all continue peaceful to negotiate and won`t lose our nerves. As Serbian President Vucic said: ``Better to talk to 100 years, then to wage war for 1 years.``

Now, I am calm. I know EU will help and support peace. Thanks for words of hope.

Probably. That act of agression would end Serbia as we know it. A kind of pacification of this region you surely don't want!

No. If NATO and EU try something, it will be world war. Serbia today got guaranties from Russia and Vhina, if Albanians (Shquiptars) continue to provoke.

If I`m EU and NATO I wouldn`t f*** with us. If we are now provoked to move, we then correct complete injustice don`t to us.

Bratwurst Boy
24 Nov 2018  #128

Germany and EU will give order to local Albanians

I doubt that. I don't even know what you mean...it surely is not in the headlines of Europe.

As Serbian President Vucic said: ``Better to talk to 100 years, then to wage war for 1 years.

A smart guy! You should listen to him...

You know already how it goes...you shoot first and you will lose again!

Serbia today got guaranties from Russia

Tell me again where was Russia during the dissolution of Yugoslavia?

If we are now provoked to move

Do you have learned nothing from the disaster of the Balkan war?

You move first you will be seen as the agressor, not even Russia would lend you a hand then...

Crow
24 Nov 2018  #129

A smart guy! You should listen to him...

Sure, he is smart.

But I see that you don`t follow news. Shquiptars (ie Albanians) started to shooting first, already.

Serbs never shoot first. But this time we finish this masquerade.

Tell me again where was Russia during the dissolution of Yugoslavia?

Back then Russia didn`t give us any guaranties. Now, we have.

Bratwurst Boy
24 Nov 2018  #130

Shquiptars (ie Albanians) started to shooting first, already.

Again...there is nothing of it here in the media...

Crow
24 Nov 2018  #131

You are surprised. Not only that. Media war already started. When Serbian President Vucic yesterday warned that Shquiptars moving to Serbian enclaves with troops, KFOR and NATO denied that. Then, Serbian president thanked to KFOR and NATO for protecting Serbs and said, we wait, ``I hope you are right``. After half day Shquiptars were on Serbian enclaves shooting in the middle of the night (imagine `police` that shooting like bandits) on streets, beating people in front of parents, etc.

delphiandomine
4 Jan 2019  #132

That's how it is today with republika srpska being mostly autonomous

Yup, it's widely perceived that the Serbian ethnic cleansing was successful.

It's a shame, because one of the nicest and well functioning cities in Bosnia is the multi-ethnic Brcko.

Dirk diggler
4 Jan 2019  #133

Bosnia always had a large serb population. Far more than Croatia anyway. Seems the beef today is more with northern kosovo. The two sides wanted to do a land swap but it received a ton of opposition from the EU

Today I was actually working at a nice serb lady's apartment building that she rents out. She has 3 building side by side with 6 units each. She's making a killing off it. Every time I come here we talk about Europe and she reminisces about tito yugoslavia

mafketis
5 Jan 2019  #134

The main problem with tito's Jugoslavija was that there weren't enough jugoslavs (just a bunch of small minded serbs, croats, etc involved in endless historical p1ssing matches) and so there was not basis for shared national pride which also meant no basis to build any kind of civil society.

Dirk diggler
8 Jan 2019  #135

Found this in my YouTube recommended

'My dad is a war criminal' serbian propaganda song
youtu.be/DTyLW3F6W44

Joker
8 Jan 2019  #136

Found this in my YouTube recommended

Wow dirk! I first thought this would be a spoof, but these ppl are deadly serious, they behave like barbarians!

I fail to see the difference between Serbs and radical Muslims? I wish, someone could explain it to me, besides Crow.

Joker
8 Jan 2019  #137

Check out the expat Serbs in California celebrating Xmas with shotguns. Even religious holidays are associated with violence.

youtu.be/CimKkt4sle0

Crnogorac3
8 Jan 2019  #138

youtu.be/TL4ObzeBW0M

Serbian professor dr. Serge Trifković: "Migratory Jihad and the Crisis of Europe" - Speaking at the American Renaissance conference

Dirk diggler
8 Jan 2019  #139

I fail to see the difference between Serbs and radical Muslims? I wish, someone could explain it to me, besides Crow.

Well, one cleaned up more kebab in Europe than other group in my life so I got nothing but respect for them.

This is part of a genre called turbofolk - folk songs mixed with techno about the Yugo wars

Crnogorac3
8 Jan 2019  #140

I first thought this would be a spoof, but these ppl are deadly serious, they behave like barbarians!

Dude that video actually makes fun of anti-Serbian propaganda that was prevalent in biased Western media reporting during the 90's. It is not serious at all, but satirical. If you don't believe what CNN, BBC & other fake news media outlets report about the US President Donald Trump, then how can you believe in what they told you about the war in the Balkans? Any luck finding Sadam's (non-existant) WMDs in Iraq?

Second, as for that Christmas celebration, you won't see it nowadays anywhere in the cities, it was something that died out around 200 years ago, perhaps in some remote areas... Nice to see Serbian Americans kept the tradition ;)

This is part of a genre called turbofolk - folk songs mixed with techno about the Yugo wars

youtu.be/WfMY2AksjIU

Aleksandra Prijović - TOTALNA ANESTEZIJA

youtu.be/OeW-UtJ5_bg

Aleksandra Prijović - Klizav Pod

This is true turbofolk music. :)

Girls wearing skimpy outfits that catch the attention of the eye, easy texts that are kept as simple as possible & catchy tunes which go in and out of the ear easily. Their purpose is actually to divert attention of the public from important issues facing the country.

Dirk diggler
8 Jan 2019  #141

Didn't Arkan marry a turbofolk singer?

Crnogorac3
8 Jan 2019  #142

Yes her name is Svetlana Ražnatović - "Ceca" the undisputed queen of turbofolk
youtu.be/soiKKyQs-6k

Ceca - Nije Monotonija

Arkan's tiger is in the video.

youtu.be/DcIpZN3i4Gs

Ceca - Znam
youtu.be/M-D_2WsJL_Y

Ceca - Idi dok si mlad
youtu.be/W_ppC5iKbK4

Ceca - Beograd
youtu.be/amt9PNfgXzU

Ceca - Volela sam volela

Dirk diggler
8 Jan 2019  #143

Arkan was one the baddest mofo's to ever walk this earth.. The guy escaped from so many jails in w Europe it's ridiculous. I read that in one instance he went to the infirmary and realizes the security was lax. So what does he do? Jumps out the window - down 2 floors. Beats up the first person he sees, takes his clothes and runs off to rob more jewelry stores and banks rofl hahahhahahahaha

I don't think its meant to be a spoof...
Here's one about the ex president of bosnia
youtube.com/watch?v=Y9-mYg5VDzQ

delphiandomine
8 Jan 2019  #144

Arkan was one the baddest mofo's to ever walk this earth..

It's not known for certain, but there's a theory that he was working on behalf of the Yugoslav UDBA because he was able to operate so easily. It's possible - they were well organised and not afraid of getting their hands dirty, and Tito had built them to be effective rather than brutes like in other Communist countries.

Here's one about the ex president of bosnia

What's amazing is that these songs are almost all the same in terms of melody, just the object of their mockery changes!

A Croatian song from the 90's, also completely hysterically awful: youtube.com/watch?v=PZruLp_2VA0

mafketis
10 Jan 2019  #145

Didn't Arkan marry a turbofolk singer?

I remember a quote from her that she was happy to marry who liked killing non-Serbians (not how she put it but that was what she meant).

delphiandomine
10 Jan 2019  #146

Yeah, she's not exactly an angel herself. Her daughter is about as trashy and horrible as they come, too.

Vesko Vukovic
13 Jan 2019  #147

A Croatian song from the 90's, also completely hysterically awful:

There is also this version of the song which Croats used to ridicule and make fun of Poland after Croatia won a handball match 37-23 in Krakow.

youtu.be/PSpvZbD3Ox4

NA DOM... AĆINA POLJSKU (Bojna Čavoglave) | BULLHIT

Crnogorac3
14 Jan 2019  #148

A Croatian song from the 90's, also completely hysterically awful:

Marko Perković - "Thompson" has since then after the Yugo-wars started making anti-Jewish, anti-Masonic & anti-Communist songs which led to him being banned from performing in liberal & cucked countries such as Germany, Holland, Belgium etc. He openly accused Jews of being behind him getting a ban.

Even in the US Jewish organisations organised protests and objected to him having a concert in America:

nydailynews.com/news/jewish-groups-protest-show-nazi-band-church-hall-article-1.227736

He does seem to have a following in Poland though.

youtu.be/msI-aUXoRj8

Vesko Vukovic
14 Jan 2019  #149

THOMPSON - POLSKA

LOL

What song are the Poles singing at 0:46 of the clip?

Crnogorac3
14 Jan 2019  #150

It's called Anica - Kninska Kraljica

youtu.be/gOoupUeE9bI

Lets hope Crow doesn't see this, what the Poles are singing, it would brake his heart. ;)


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