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delphiandomine
5 Feb 2019  #841

How do we stop the next 100,000 alleged refugees or illegals from entering the US?

We don't. The more, the better.

Rich Mazur
5 Feb 2019  #842

Is there an upper limit?
If "yes", what is the upper limit?
Do you know how do you keep those over the upper limit?

JR, please, don't help him.

TheOther
6 Feb 2019  #843

how do you propose to stop illegals and the alleged refugees from entering the US?

First of all, according to the Department of Homeland Security, the number of apprehended illegals at the southern border has gone down significantly over the past decade and the number of people who get deported is on the rise. Trump's so-called national emergency is fabricated BS, nothing else. Where did this imaginary emergency come from all of a sudden after the Dems took the House? They offered him 25 billion for his wall and the president walked away from the deal. The Republicans controlled the WH, House and Congress for two years, and not even they were willing to give Trump his wall. Why?

Second, most illegals do not enter the country on foot anymore, but legally, and then overstay their visa. So which illegals to you want to tackle first? I would say, let's get the visa system under control and then punish each and every employer who hires undocumented workers to the fullest extent. That includes our president, by the way. The southern border does not need a wall, and we will never see one simply because it's physically impossible and far too expensive given the fact that the government will drown in law suits once they try eminent domain. So why not modernize the border in those sections where most illegals cross, and hire more border agents with better equipment for the rest? Also, make sure that each and every man, woman and child carries legal documentation before letting them enter the asylum process. If not, turn them away.

Does the wall in Israel work

The situation in the ME is not comparable to ours. We are not dealing with terrorists who want to wipe us off the map like the Israelis do at their border. Also, we are a civilized country and not some rogue state which chooses to kill children that demonstrate at its border.

that mean JR

Where are we? In kindergarten?

johnny reb
6 Feb 2019  #844

We are not dealing with terrorists who want to wipe us off the map

That is the stupidest statement you have posted here in some time.

Man did Trump knock the ball out of the park last night in his State of the Union Address.
That was one of the best and most diversified speech's ever given.
He reached everyone with a brain about what he has done already and what still needs to be done.

The sad part is that Trump has to fight these bastards every day because they want him gone because he is making the whole lot of them look useless.

Trump gets elected with no political experience and is getting things done career politicians never get done.
Trump is making these seat polishers look bad, very bad.
That is why they want him gone is because Trump has accomplished more in two year then obozo did in eight years.
Trump has shown the country what a useless bunch we have had running our government and that is why he said that the Swamp needs to be drained.

That is a threat to their secure lush jobs, with lush retirement packages, where NOTHING ever gets done besides planning their next private vacations with their secretary's.

Trump is showing the public that these jobs could quite easily be eliminated and not be missed.
To much fat, in the Swamp of Corruption, that needs to be trimmed to make our elected officials sit up and do some actual work that they were elected to do.

Damn I love President Trump Making America Great Again.
Build the Wall !

Rich Mazur
6 Feb 2019  #845

First of all, according to the Department of Homeland Security, the number of apprehended illegals

Until you answer the questions in 844 and 846 you are wasting your time and mine.

That is the stupidest statement you have posted here in some time.

Yours was the best response to the stupidest statement. That's where you should have stopped. Trust me, he didn't spend a second reading the rest.

where NOTHING ever gets done besides planning their next private vacations with their secretary's.

Secretary as a planner or to bang? I wonder if they are called "secretaries" for the latter.

johnny reb
6 Feb 2019  #846

Confucius say, "Secretary not permanent fixture until screwed on the desk."

Rich Mazur
6 Feb 2019  #847

Or under, the Clinton way. At least this scum didn't talk pussy grabbing talk. He did it and everybody loved him.

Yesterday, I deliberately skipped Trump's speech. But not for the reason the libs here would wish.
I skipped it so I would not have to see how the leftist morons look and act.
Instead, I listened to it on my smartphone while mall walking. It was perfect.

Ziemowit
6 Feb 2019  #848

I deliberately skipped Trump's speech.

And no wonder. I am told (source: PolishTV) he was talking for an hour and a half. Can a normal person stand it? Only Dirk diggler used to write longer speeches on the PolishForums once.

Rich Mazur
6 Feb 2019  #849

Only Dirk diggler used to write longer speeches on the PolishForums once.

And, as his best friend here, and to my credit, I asked him to make them short and brutal. His friends already know them, and his enemies don't read them.

That hour and half was, indeed, too long and too preachy. Toward the end, he sounded tired. But the punch points were good and emotionally uplifting.

Miloslaw
6 Feb 2019  #850

I asked him to make them short and brutal.

Spot on Rich,as you say,these leftie libtards will not read long posts that show how wrong they are.

Rich Mazur
6 Feb 2019  #851

Whenever possible, end the post with a question libs just won't answer. This is how you will know that you won. If they had a good answer, they would answer.

Example. Lib: illegals are good for the economy. Me: are they good for Mexico?
The end.

Bratwurst Boy
6 Feb 2019  #852

How so?

Most people agree with illegals being....well....illegals.

When you would find a good counter argument as to why our western economies don't need labor immigration to keep things running I would be interested to hear that...

Funny thing when even non-western economies as Russia and China are starting to search for more hands to do the jobs.

Are they all bleeding-hearts-liberal-snowflakes???

Rich Mazur
6 Feb 2019  #853

Let's keep it short. We have 20 million illegals. You want them in Germany? Yes or no. No essays.

delphiandomine
6 Feb 2019  #854

No, we want them in the USA, in accordance with Zionist principles of territorial expansion.

Bratwurst Boy
6 Feb 2019  #855

You want them in Germany? Yes or no.

No. We have our own illegals.

May I ask where did you get the number from? They are illegals after all...should be hard to register them.

Miloslaw
6 Feb 2019  #856

No, we want them in the USA, in accordance with Zionist principles of territorial expansion.

Note to self....add anti semite to Delph's crimes....

Rich Mazur
6 Feb 2019  #857

We have our own illegals.

Then, take ours and make them legal and put them to work that is now not being done for lack of people, according to you.

Question: how many more immigrants or refugees do you still need in Germany? This calls for a number, not an essay. If you don't know, say so and we are done.

Bratwurst Boy
6 Feb 2019  #858

About 5 Million till 2030.

personalwirtschaft.de/recruiting/artikel/deutschland-fehlen-bis-2030-rund-fuenf-millionen-arbeitskraefte.html

Actual (2018) about 1,6 Million workers are needed.

faz.net/aktuell/wirtschaft/fachkraefte-mangel-dihk-beklagt-1-6-millionen-freie-stellen-15491794.html

(Sorry, I couldn't put that any shorter!!!)

Rich Mazur
6 Feb 2019  #859

About 5 Million till 2030.

Outsource work. Do not insource foreign scum.
My wife wants our house cleaned periodically. We did not let anyone move in with us. They come, work, and go.

Bratwurst Boy
6 Feb 2019  #860

Well...they will have to come up with something...

Rich Mazur
6 Feb 2019  #861

From sfgate.com:

Seated in a block, these representatives were their own silent, attention-grabbing rejoinder. Their homogenous clothing palette made their movements all the more noticeable. Most of the time, they sat in stony, synchronized silence, as when the president spoke of restricting abortion.

This is why I can't stand women. Not individually, but as a herd of sheep. The State of the Union speech was no exception. Individualism is a foreign to women as Chinese is to me. After one took her first walk in those pre-ripped jeans, they all do it now. From the top, that hair ball on their heads looks like a foreign object that just landed and got stuck. Why would a woman do her hair that idiotic way? Because she saw three like that. When they vote, they vote for another woman because she has ovaries, not brain. Holding hands and blending in the crowd is their natural MO.

All of that compliance stops when they come home.

Joker
7 Feb 2019  #862

Until you answer the questions in 844 and 846 you are wasting your time and mine.

His last response was nothing more than parroted talking points from CNN, same old boring rhetoric.

Man did Trump knock the ball out of the park last night in his State of the Union Address

The Dems are in full meltdown mode again and Im loving it:)

Have you heard the latest news about Pocahontas? More lies about being an Indian to get free tuition and other freebees from the government.

cbsnews.com/news/elizabeth-warren-apologizes-for-claiming-native-american-heritage/

One down and 17 more dumbocrats to go! Its like shooting fish in a barrel! LOL

Needless, to say. Her campaign is over:)

I would say, let's get the visa system under control and then punish each and every employer who hires undocumented workers to the fullest extent.

How many criminals, drug dealers and MS-13 gang members do you think are looking for real jobs?

Rich Mazur
7 Feb 2019  #863

Needless, to say. Her campaign is over:)

Which is a pity. Trump would make her cry in the first five minutes of the first debate.

How many criminals, drug dealers and MS-13 gang members do you think are looking for real jobs?

Oh, common! They are better than that. They create employment opportunities for the CBP, ICE, cops, prosecutors, judges, prison guards and the reason to exist and get out of bed for the assorted pro-Latino brainless activists.

johnny reb
7 Feb 2019  #864

The Dems are in full meltdown mode again and Im loving it:)

I can't wait for Trump to shut the government down for the second time next week which will cause them to have another meltdown.

Ain't it great being an American !

Rich Mazur
7 Feb 2019  #865

Damn right. While listening to his speech, my eyes got wet a couple of times. Not a trivial thing to accomplish by another guy.

TheOther
7 Feb 2019  #866

How many criminals, drug dealers and MS-13 gang members do you think are looking for real jobs?

It's only a small fraction of the illegals that are hardcore criminals, drug dealers or MS-13 members. On the other hand, the incarceration rate of native-born Americans is twice as high as for illegal immigrants, and almost 5 times as high as for legal immigrants. According to the CATO Institute...

Until you answer the questions in 844 and 846 you are wasting your time and mine.

Rich doesn't like facts, so he chooses to weasel out. How surprising. You have to question the accuracy of Trump's claims first, before you can talk about a "crisis" at the southern border.

Rich Mazur
7 Feb 2019  #867

Rich doesn't like facts, so he chooses to weasel out.

No. Rich never weasels out. Rich is logical and linear, and expects the same from others.
So, if you ignore my questions, the convo is finito.

Slavictor
7 Feb 2019  #868

"SCAAP Data Suggest Illegal Aliens Commit Crime at a Much Higher Rate Than Citizens and Lawful Immigrants"

fairus.org/issue/illegal-immigration/scaap-data-suggest-illegal-aliens-commit-crime-much-higher-rate-citizens

"Every public official guards against disclosure of illegal-immigrant crime data more tenaciously than disclosure of nuclear launch codes."

Always remember who maliciously engineered the attack on Western countries.

Rich Mazur
7 Feb 2019  #869

The second sentence from the linked article:

Do illegal aliens commit crimes at a higher rate than native-born U.S. citizens and lawful immigrants?

The most irrelevant and hurtful to the debate question one can ask.

Why give a s***? What's the conclusion if their crime rate is, in fact, lower? Therefore what? Let them all in as long as their crime stats better?

That is a logical trap. By raising this straw man argument, we, including Trump, bypass and take off the table the critical one: do we want our country to become a bilingual Latino copy of what is south of us. If the answer is "hell, no" what difference does it make if their murder rate is 4.9 or 5.1 while ours is 5.0?

They could all be like Jesus, pope, and Mother Teresa and we still don't want 20 million of them here. Duh!

Bratwurst Boy
8 Feb 2019  #870

do we want our country to become a bilingual Latino copy of what is south of us.

It seems that parts of the US are already latino in their majority.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._counties_with_Hispanic_or_Latino_majority_populations

But there will be alway pockets of white majorities....I think....


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