USA News and Poland - Part 5

If I admit to serving in Vietnam you will diminish me by calling me a baby killer, if I say that I did not serve you will diminish me by calling me a draft dodger.

Better you tells why the British military refused you back then.

Did you? You're of the age to have been drafted for it. Do tell.


They didn't. And there has been no draft in the UK during my lifetime..

@jon357

For what it's worth, I think only about a third of the military during Nam War was comprised of draftees, most enlisted. The chances of being drafted was pretty low.

Stop with your Rinse and Repeat as I already answered that question in my post above.


Oh but they would have refused you if you had tried to join the British military back then.
Perhaps you would like to tell us why that is.

Oh but they wouldn't...

However you're trying to mention sexuality (as if it's some sort of secret here) to deflect from the very real question about your time during the Vietnam War. Were you drafted?

You would be exempt.

Was he? Or more pertinently, where was he?

There was only one idiot here who posted personal info - me. Like age.

Anyway, Jim's evasion belongs in Random and not here. So on the topic of the thread (and not entirely unrelated to previous posts), this article is interesting.



The article is called: "The U.S. economy sets up ex-prisoners for failure. The consequences are disastrous."

americamagazine.org/politics-society/2021/09/29/prisons-rehabilitation-america-pope-franci-241532

Skimmed through it and some of what I came across is very suspect. The article makes it seem like the US developed a prison system post- Civil War to imprison former slaves. Not true.

The US started a prison system shortly after Revolutionary War and it had wide development in early 1800's. So, the development of a prison system was well underway pre-Emancipation.

Also, I didn't see anything about the determination and will of the ex-convict to participate in legit economic activity. You can have all of the sterling programs you want, but it won't mean squat if individuals don't want to truly reform. It's not always the "systems" fault, it also depends on individual responsibility.

I do like the idea of vocational training programs for these folks, as long as they're quality training programs imparting real-world skills. I'd support more of those programs in the prisons, if they don't already exist.

Oh but they would have.


I answered your question three times jon but it wasn't the one you wanted to diminish me with.
So now I have turned the table on you and you are the one that wants to deflect, not I.


He was because it wasn't until 1982 that the British military enacted a policy explicitly banning gay men and lesbians from their ranks.
Before that, however, same sex relations were criminalized and cause for discharge.
Shall we move on now since both our questions have been answered or are you going to be like TheJoke and Rinse and Repeat it to death.

So what brand of Scotch are you drinking lately jon ?

The reasons why the US prisons are overcrowded:
1. Wide open Southern border, illegals, drugs.
2. We don't deport illegals.
3. Inmates running prisons.
4. Prisons not hellish enough to deter.
5. Singapore method is not permitted.
6. We don't have the death penalty.

Novi for President 2024 !

A marketing executive who was fired for being a white male and replaced by two woman, one of whom was black, as part of a diversity goal, has been awarded a $10 million dollar discrimination payout.

See Rich, life is good !

Very good. That will teach those discriminatory morons that overdoing PC doesn`t pay.

Just when I thought it couldn't get any crazier!

Report: Joe Biden May Pay Border Crossers $450K Each in Reparations
biznewspost.com/news/report-joe-biden-may-pay-border-crossers-450k-each-in-reparations/

Its pays off to be an illegal when you get $450K just for crossing the border while everyday Americans are homeless and hungry.

The Democrats are bankrupting the country, there is no way to pay for this insanity. Ppl should stop paying their taxes!

They have, nobody works anymore.
Their "entitlements" pay more than their jobs do.

It must be nice being an illegal alien under Biden.. $450K is a lot of money for doing absolutely nothing, and its all taxpayer money. This pi$$es me off, all the homeless veterans and our poor citizens that live in ghettos, broke. And these illegal fuks get enough $ to buy a new house! Everything has gone crazy!

Quoting:

"It would be unthinkable to pay damages to a burglar who broke into your home for the 'psychological trauma' they endured during the crime," Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) said in a statement. "And yet the Biden administration wants to reward migrants who illegally entered our country with up to $450,000 each for just that reason."

The only more insane thing would be to enlist and die for a mad sh*ithole that lost the instinct of self-preservation. But, this being a "democracy", everything is according to the rules and what the citizens here want. I am cool with that.

Where is theOther? He still owes me the answer to how many illegals would be too many.

I do have to admit that sh*it like this makes my job of hating people much easier.

He is in New York living the high life on his Green Card.

Hey, theOther, how many illegals is too many?

Isn't it, "are to many" ?
You been spending to much time with da brutha's Rich.

A new definition of Roman Catholic: anything that walks.

Quoting:

ROME, Oct 29 (Reuters) - U.S. President Joe Biden said on Friday that Pope Francis had told him he should keep receiving Communion, amid fierce debate in the U.S. Church over Biden's position on abortion.

Strange things happen when a communist gets hired as pope.

In other news, Dr. Mengele is scheduled to receive Nobel Prize in medicine early next year.

Well, it's not like good ole Joe has never played fast and loose with the truth before. Dude has a helluva imagination.

Joe may be loose but it's a fact that Francis would give communion to the ISIS terrorists who just raped and decapitated a dozen Vatican nuns - right in front of him.

You know, that Christian tolerance aka indifference and forgiveness. Drives me crazy. I have none left and that is why I am no longer one of them - plus other reasons.

If Christian tolerance was indifference, I wouldn't want any part of that either.

It's contrary to indifference, it's about acknowledging and respecting every individual as a unique person created and loved by God in His image-meaning a person can know and will the good.

Obviously, human beings don't always do good. Christian tolerance is concerned with reforming that which isn't good, therefore it doesn't accept the bad action as good but, at the same time, it doesn't discard the person as irredeemable scum. It is centered on the reformation of the person toward how God created him: to know the good and will it. Hence, the need for mercy.

But, mercy doesn't mean indifference, rather forgiveness of the contrite. It doesn't accept the bad as legitimate to human dignity, but heals the wound between God and the person caused by the sinful act.

So, I'd say, in reality, you are no longer a Christian because of Christian tolerance but those other things.

:)

Francis has his problems, but he's not a commie or a whack job.

No religion has a monopoly on tolerance, AntV.
The Judeo-Christian ethic believes itself to be more tolerant than Islam, for instance, but it hardly is! Were the Crusades or the Auto de Fe in Spain examples of Christian tolerance??

As long as they keep this inside the church, I am OK. When they take this to the jury room - big problem.


Forgiveness is for the victim's survivors to keep their sanity. Never for the human waste who caused their suffering.


Francis doesn't know how to stay in his lane. Our Southern border is our problem, not his, because it will be us suffering the consequences, not him.

The biggest mystery ever is why the US has recognized a private corporation - the Vatican - as a party deserving an ambassador.
What's next? An ambassador to Taj Mahal? How about Mecca?

Jews, Christians, and Muslims can be just as sanctimonious as anybody else:-)

The Church has always recognized justice. The Church does teach penance, afterall. Much of our civil systems of justice is based on Judeo-Christian paradigms.


You are only applying forgiveness to a homicide scenario. There are a lot more acts in need of mercy than just homicide.

In the eyes of a Christian, it's not only a human person who is harmed by a bad act, but also the sinners relationship with God. So, yes, forgiveness happens between two people but also between

God and the sinner.

You say human waste. Who determines who is human waste?


Haha! A corporation!

The Vatican is a sovereign city-state.


What in thee sanctimonious hell do you mean by that, Lyzzy?

@Lyzko

With all due respect, what exactly is your point in post 2217 within the context of the discussion? You got me feeling like George Foster ( he played left field for the Big Red Machine).