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Novichok
17 Nov 2023  #2371

In Europe it is called illegal homicide.

Hey, Alien, when is it legal in Germany to kill a home intruder who broke things to enter?

Walk me slowly through the process so I can fully appreciate how insane your country really is.

Here, you break in, you die. The only thing you don't want to do is shoot the sob in the back as he was leaving. To eliminate any crap talk that he broke in to get a cup of water, we stay in the "safe room" - typically a bedroom. If he breaks into the safe room, you fire as there is no doubt as to his intentions.

Yes, I know, in Europe the homeowner would have to prove that he broke the door to your bedroom to chat because he was very sad and needed a hug.

Alien
17 Nov 2023  #2372

when is it legal to kill a home intruder

We'll see if the police press charges against her. Let us know if this happens.

Novichok
17 Nov 2023  #2373

That tells me you didn't watch the video. The cops already said it was justified.
Back to my question form 2372...

When is it legal in Germany to shoot and kill a stranger who broke a door to enter your house?

jon357
17 Nov 2023  #2374

They seem paranoid and permanently terrified there.

Alien
17 Nov 2023  #2375

When is it legal in Germany to shoot and kill a stranger who broke a door to enter your house?

The law is complicated. I will give 2 examples. In the first one, police officers from a special unit storm a room where an armed multiple murderer is being sought in order to arrest or neutralize him. Unfortunately, they storm the right room but on the wrong floor, killing an innocent tourist. At this time, the murderer leaves the hotel undisturbed by anyone. None of the policemen are convicted. 2nd example. An armed rocker shoots through the locked door of his house, killing a special unit policeman trying to blow the door open. Rocker later explains that he thought that someone from another gang of rockers wanted to break into his house and kill him. He is acquitted.

Novichok
17 Nov 2023  #2376

That was nice of you to post but it does not address the situation as shown in that video in Post 2372. One woman, a baby, and a pos breaking in.

Under German laws what is she supposed to do?

Alien
17 Nov 2023  #2377

Under German laws what is she supposed to do?

I don't know, the fact that she had a small child and there were two burglars is a mitigating factor.

Novichok
17 Nov 2023  #2378

Mitigating? What's there to mitigate? Premeditated murder down to voluntary manslaughter?

She should be a celebrity making speeches about how to stand your ground, save your life, and how one shot saved society from the untold expenses of trial and incarceration.

What if she was a he with no kids? How different would that be?

BTW, you don't have to respond anymore. It's hard to defend moronic Euro laws and you don't deserve the torture.

Alien
17 Nov 2023  #2379

She should be a celebrity

Not in a normal country, she could have shot without killing. The attacker did not have a firearm, so he would have escaped. The police would catch him and put him in jail.

Lyzko
17 Nov 2023  #2380

@Rich, perhaps you don't understand English sufficiently, which is why my writing
appears difficult for you to understand. Try re-reading it nice and slowly LOL

"A self-defense alibi" is precisely what it says. In various countries in Europe, Italy
among them, if you or I end up killing somebody in defense of our own lives, the
law will not be well disposed to the defense of "It was either him or me", as would
be the case here at home.

Novichok
17 Nov 2023  #2381

she could have shot without killing. The attacker did not have a firearm,

She didn't know if he had a firearm.
You shoot to "stop the threat". A wounded man on drugs can still stab you to death.

Novichok
17 Nov 2023  #2382

@Rich, perhaps you don't understand English sufficiently,

It's your English that sucks.
"A self-defense alibi" returns 537 hits if you google it.
"A self-defense claim" - 39,000.
I am a genius in English. You are a professorial nut.

pawian
17 Nov 2023  #2383

I am a genius in English.

Not only in English. In everything. Hats off! hahahaha

Miloslaw
17 Nov 2023  #2384

You are a professorial nut.

So true!

Novichok
18 Nov 2023  #2385

Judge REJECTS plea deal for Pennsylvania mom who 'hanged son, 8, and daughter, 4, with dog leash after having sex with pit bull' ...

Memo to Pennsylvania: I will pay you 1000 dollars if you let me execute this bit*ch after you do your part and sentence her to death.

Lyzko
18 Nov 2023  #2386

@Rich, insults on your end notwithstanding, I'm willing to overlook them
if only to show you up.

What do you think about that case, also in Pennsylvania, oh' round about twenty-
odd years back concerning the Christian Scientist mom who refused to take her
critically ill daughter to the hospital because her "religion" prohibits outside healing?
The daughter died of an illness which could have been prevented by a doctor's care.
As I recall, the judge threw the book at the mother.

Novichok
18 Nov 2023  #2387

I don't do interviews. When I see your opinion I will comment.

Lyzko
18 Nov 2023  #2388

The question's plain enough.
My opinion is that the judge was completely in the right.
Any action which carries personal ideology into the realm
of another person's health, must be curtailed and the wrongdoer
punished.

Alien
18 Nov 2023  #2389

Christian Scientist mom who refused to take her
critically ill daughter to the hospital because her "religion" prohibits outside healing?

This can not be true. The Catholic or Evangelical faith forbids anything like this. What exactly was her faith?

jon357
18 Nov 2023  #2390

What exactly was her faith?

Christian Scientist..

Sometimes described as neither Christian nor science. They have some good ideas about positive thinking however the hardline ones believe that disease is an illusion and refuse to visit doctors. Used to be popular, especially in America where some cynicism about doctors is partly justified due to them demanding money from patients, however it's declined a lot in membership over the past few decades. Every now and then, you read about one dying because they refused treatment.

Their founder, Mary Baker Eddy, was an odd person however some of her quotes that Christian Scientists read out every day are good ones and some people outside that religion use and like them.

christianscience.com/pl

Atch
18 Nov 2023  #2391

Yes, they do actually have some nice ideas, including the importance of forgiveness for example. It's quite a joyful religion. The faith does not actually forbid followers from seeking medical treatment and Mrs Eddy herself was treated by doctors in her final days.

Alien
19 Nov 2023  #2392

Christian Scientists

@Atch
However, I don't think they should call themselves "scientists".

Atch
19 Nov 2023  #2393

This is where the etymology of words can come in handy :) something that always interests me. The word 'science' comes from the Latin 'scientia' meaning knowledge or knowing. So scientist is simply somebody who knows. They probably mean it as somebody who 'knows' or knows Christ or the ways of Christ or whatever.

Novichok
19 Nov 2023  #2394

This is where the etymology of words

I looked up "weasel" and got "barney".
BTW, do you have an opinion on what Israel should do in response to the 10/7 massacre of the Israeli civilians?
I know that in Europe being honest is risky behavior so I am not expecting details. Just yes or no...

Atch
19 Nov 2023  #2395

I know that in Europe being honest is risky behavior

Told you to visit this forum. The Irish are not afraid to express opinions. Over 800 pages of varying opinions starting on 7 October. Visit, participate, enjoy:

politics.ie/threads/israel-palestine-its-endgame.288554/

what Israel should do in response to the 10/7 massacre of the Israeli civilians?

That ship has already sailed. Your question should be 'should have done'.



Joker
19 Nov 2023  #2396

Leftardism is a religion of self-loathing. It teaches white people to hate their race, boys to hate their sex, women to hate their femininity, Americans to hate their country, westerners to hate their history.

What a contemptible toxic thing it is!


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Lyzko
19 Nov 2023  #2397

Untrammeled leftardism's as bad as rightardism! Any unthinkingly extreme "-ism" is bad, Rich.

Joker
19 Nov 2023  #2398

Amen, Korvinus! That's tellin' 'em.

Keep towing the leftard line and you will soon be giving up your own home to them...lol

Mayor Eric Adams announced painful budget cuts to New York City services on Thursday that would freeze police hiring and close libraries on Sunday and warned that more cuts would be necessary without additional federal funding to manage the migrant crisis

fox5ny.com/news/nyc-budget-cuts-mayor-adams

NEW YORK - New York City Mayor Eric Adams announced major cuts to the city's budget for the next year and a half, saying that cuts across all agencies were necessary with the city having spent $1.45 billion on the migrant crisis this year

I suppose, when it hits your own pocket book you might wake up.

Lyzko
19 Nov 2023  #2399

The reason the Dems, like Adams, even Biden, keep shooting themselves in the foot
is that in bending over backwards to undo past wrongs, egregious wrongs indeed,
they've lost touch with the majority white electorate out in Middle America, as I've posted
here on a number of occasions.

DeSantis, Trump ad nauseum pander to Mr.& Mrs.Front Porch, Joe the Plumber, Clyven Bundy & Clan....
non-thinking, between average to below-average boneheads, who most likely stunk in school, hate convention
which they associate en masse with glib trickster-like big city swindlers, and want to reduce the United States
to one mega-rich, white enclave of semi-autonomous landowners who can make easy bucks without working
and take advantage of everybody else, less skilled in bribery and manipulation.

Joker
19 Nov 2023  #2400

bending over backwards to undo past wrongs, egregious wrongs indeed,

Opening up the southern border and letting in millions of migrants, drugs, gangs and terrorists is the dumbest way to do it.

The Presidents first job is to protect the American people, he has failed and derelicted his duty. For this alone he should be impeached.


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