USA News and Poland - part 9

Though. If you own the companies you are responsible.
And tbh I don't have any problems believing Trump knew exactly what was happening.

If he was innocent why didn't the defence called him?

Well, as Agent Orange already said: he'll be dic(k)tator on day one. Then comes the Heritage Foundation with its Project 2025 to finalize the "Machtergreifung". If you really believe that this is the way to make America great again, then you should read a few history books.

One the one hand, it's good that they can only have two terms. On the other, if anyone would try to get around that by foul means it's the Mango Mussolini.


He certainly knew.

Politically motivated? He's a politician and any prosecution will have political aspects. He is however guilty, huge sums of money are involved and political campaign money should be squeaky clean; he'd have been prosecuted for that in the U.K. without any doubt and that goes for much of Europe.

If you want politically motivated police investigations, there was all that screaming by the Tories about whether Angela Raynor (deputy PM as of next month) had lived in her ex-council house or had her brother been living there for a while. No crime committed, yet the Tories were screaming about it. It's an ex-council house in a poor area bought under right-to-buy by a single mother who had her first kid at 16 and is soon to be second in charge of the country. The amounts of cash that the Tories were yelling about is tiny too, and it turns out everything was honest.

That was to deflect attention from the Medpro scandal where a Tory peer who used to own an erotic lingerie business and made a mega killing on bitcoins persuaded the government to fast track a £230,000,000 covid mask contract to a company that turned out to be indirectly owned by her and her husband.

But the one the right wingers go after was a single mother about whether or not she rented her ex-council house out to a family member before the 5 years was up because she'd got married after 4. That was politically motivated however fortunately there weren't even grounds for arrest, let alone charges or a court case.

@Lenka
In Poland the accounting company is responsible for these errors, same in the US. The problem for Trump was that his accountant was an in house accountant and his employee. Technically yes, he should have had better oversight of the accountant. But no one with multiple companies can keep that close an eye on things. As for Trump not testifying, it is not the defense burden to prove innocence, and having a former president on a witness stand is really not good for the country in any way regardless of political party. I would say the same about Clinton if the roles were reversed.

While you may not have any problems with any of this, its clear that at least half of the American citizdens do. That is not good for the country or the world. Understanding the US justice system means that until any person exhausts their right to appeal its not over. If Bill Cosby can win an appeal for multiple rapes, then Trump can on this very weak case.

Better oversight of the accountant doing what? Do you believe that the accountant improperly recorded the payment transactions as legal expenses?


But, the question is do you understand what was really happening?

This in not an attack on anyone, but when I read and listen to people (including the inconspicuously anti-Trump activist media) talk about this trial I quickly realize no one really has any understanding of what is actually happening. The overwhelming majority do not know and/or understand the supposed crimes nor do they know and/or understand the law that governs said supposed crimes.

What Trump was convicted of was falsifying business records with the intention to defraud and commit another crime and conceal the crime. In this case, the other crime is campaign finance.

The NY DA Alvin Bragg said the falsification of business records was that Trump intentionally misreported his payments to his attorney, Michael Cohen, as legal expenses. Bragg said that these payments, which were payments for Stormy Daniels as part of a Non-Disclosure Agreement--NDAs, by the way, are entirely legal--were to defraud the American public for election purposes, therefore violating election campaign finance laws.

So, there are two questions: 1) were the payments actually intentionally misreported, i.e. were they actually not legal expenses?

The 2nd question is much more legally wonky that most Americans and even more Euros don't get. The campaign finance law is a federal law. The NY DA is a local prosecutor. charged with prosecuting the laws of New York County--not federal laws. So, the second question isn't the intuitive question of "did Trump actually intend to defraud for political purposes by making the payments", but...

2) Does Alvin Bragg as NY County District Attorney have the jurisdiction to prosecute federal election laws?

IMO, if this ever reaches the federal courts, which would be the USSC, the court would nullify Trump's conviction simply on the grounds of Bragg usurping federal jurisdiction. The USSC might not even entertain the merits of whether the payments were misreported or whether Trump actually violated federal campaign finance law (which, by the way, the Department of Justice, earlier said he didn't).

And, this would be the best ruling for the country, because if it is allowed to stand, chaos will ensue. You'd see local DAs all over the US bringing these types of cases to trial to effect elections. It would create a dispersion of federal election law. It would be like trying to herd a 100,000 kittens. Our elections would be utterly corrupted and unsecure.

Bill Clintons $850,000 hush money to Paul Jones was a civil matter so it wasn't considered hush money ?
Remember the b.j.'s that Bill got after dipping his cigar in the poor girls pooter in the Oval Office ?
I DID NOT HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH THAT WOMAN !
He lied to Congress and the American people now didn't he.
And we won't mention his 28 trips to Lolita Island with Jeff Epstein to visit under aged sex slaves.
And we won't mention biden having the F.B.I. lie about the authenticity of the computer from hell that implicates him in several felonies including treason before the 2020 election to keep it quiet until after the election.

Oh hell no, that election wasn't rigged at all. lmao !

F U idiots.

Prove it and Trump will give you a sloppy handshake to thank you.

Trump knew everything.
He's GUILTY and deserves to have the book thrown at him!

@Lyzko
And this shows you dont know sh1t. There was no crime.


I believe everyone knew what the accountant was doing. But, if the accountant doesnt testify, it doesnt matter what I believe. Its about what can be proven. And if the accountant testified he would purjure himself again. There is no way in hell this survives the appeal process. The judge is corrupt, his family is profiting, and the jury was all Democrats in a trial that was based upon political promises. Testimony from a disbared attorney, who admitted to lies on the stand are not the basis for any sound verdict under all of these circumstances.

The jury was selected by both the prosecutor and Trump's attorneys.

Taken out of context and edited by the msm for their propaganda machine.. Did you actually watch the entire video or just edited clips on CNN? lol


A total sham. 100% political and will be reversed by a real court very soon:)

It has only helped Trump rake in millions of donations and keeps growing.

Trump raises $141 million in May, bolstered by guilty verdict

apnews.com/article/trump-fundraising-verdict-may-018624b9698b511a8647077356fea583


You have chronic TDS and are a blind sheep for the radical left.. Hows that slum NYC migrant crime wave treating you? I guess, Bidenflation works for you?

Did you see the treasonous Biden commit to a 10 year war with Ukraine? Thankfully, Trump will reverse this BS and watch him put an end Bidens wars! You Suck!!

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Yes, genius, the defense was given 100 Democrats to choose 12.

Where is that hole you were in when you were not here?

Prove it.

Not really. I will take Trump serious for a change because he meant it. Same for his idea of staying president for more than two terms. Read the Project 2025 document to understand what's coming. "He was only joking" or "He didn't mean it" doesn't cut it this time.

The last Republican in NY was chased out 20 years ago by a mob of black thugs.
It was in the NYT. Sorry that you missed it...

Not everyone is a registered Democrat or Republican.

Yeah, a good assessment, I think that most voters in the "Western Democracies" would prefer to vote for "None of the above" because all the candidates and parties are rubbish.

...and not everybody in China is Chinese. Quoting:

Based solely on the demographic makeup of these jurors, they largely code as Democratic voters.
That's no surprise. Manhattan voted in favor of President Joe Biden over Trump by 87 percent to 12 percent. It has one of the most liberal jury pools in the country.

Exactly right. Here in the US, 43% of voters consider themselves independent already. The two major political parties, both corrupt to the core, keep lying though that every vote for a third party is a wasted vote. I really wish people would wake up and smell the coffee.


What makes you so sure that none of the 12% were considered for the jury pool? Or anyone from the 43% group of independents? Your argument doesn't hold any water unless you show me the names of the jury members and their political affiliation.

How come the European country's politics are so dull compared to America's popularity around the world ?
I mean we NEVER hear anything about Britain's failures.
Is it because most of the European country's are only the size of most States in the U.S.A. ?
Europe just seems so boring compared to the U.S.A.

It's actually very simple...Europe is woke from the top down and full of scared bootlickers. That's what the absence of the Fifth Amendment does to a person - makes him into another case of Stockholm Syndrome.

Just look at this forum...All pussies are in Europe...nice, moderate, obedient, respectful...and vomit inducing...

I am still waiting for one of these human marshmallows to call their "leaders" names or say "fvck"...

Wells Fargo fires a dozen employees for pretending to work - here's how they tried to get away with it

Let's extend this idea to the federal government, fire every "employee", and start from scratch.

That's a common misconception amongst Americans. Unfortunately, our country is often perceived as an aggressive, violent cesspit where the population is kept stupid and affordable healthcare is non-existent. Many Americans are considered loud and obnoxious abroad, although I tend to file that under stereotyping. Ever since Obama left office, popularity of U.S. officials has been trending towards zero. You will say that you don't care, but it's not that easy. America cannot isolate herself like in pre-WW2 times. Our economy is dependent on worldwide trade, our military power can only be projected through overseas bases. Trump almost gave that up and was stopped by his generals. Next time we might not be so lucky, and then we are in really deep doodoo.


I very much prefer boring over the chaos and hostility that is paralyzing our country since 2016. America has never been so divided; it's disconcerning to watch. I for one am not looking forward to November because no matter who wins, we will almost certainly experience heaps of violence in the streets after the election. Provided that Trump will win, the rude awakening for his followers will come once they realize that the loudmouth cannot simply deport millions of people as he's been promising. The illegals don't have papers. No country in the world will take them in simply because the U.S. tells them to do so. Then what?

@TheOther
I live in Krakow, and travel extensively. Americans are loud, and pretty fvcking stupid when in Europe. One quote I heard on the plane from Amsterdam "Europe is such a nice country". The US can and should isolate itself a lot more. Not completely, but a lot more. Like Russia it does not need Europe for trade or anything else.

Trump cannot deport immigrants? WTF are you smoking? He can deport them without papers because they documented where they were from when being processed. It had to be done to receive benefits. He can dump them right back to Mexico where they crossed. Its been done before and will be done again. Think Mexico wont take them? Ok, then every automotive part made in Mexico will have a 100% tax on them in the US until Mexico takes them. How long will those auto plants survive?

Right now there are Russian ships and submarines off the coast of Florida. This because of Biden policies. No different than if Russia lined up troops on the Polish border. If that happened Poland wouold be $hitting itself. All of this because of Ukraine and the stupidity of the EU and USA since 2014. Who was president then? Fvcktard Obama.

The legal system there disagrees with you, and not by any means for the first time.


The problem there, is who you end up with in power.

Democratically elected politicians can be annoying, the alternatives that much of the world has to put up,with are more annoying yet.


He was the best one in many years.

Hey, PAK, about that post above...It's so good, that I will leave it without comments...Actually...perfect...

Oh horseshit, EVERYONE gets their health cared for, even the welfare fvcks get Medicaid which covers their healthcare 100%.
Any over 65 has Medicare which covers 80%.
Stop spreading Liberal lies.


Ever since he left America can see just how he strived to destroy and divide America,
I was never so happy to see a president go.
He did more damage dividing this country than you will ever know.


Than move to Europe. Simple


Hide and watch


The countries that they came from will have no choice.
And what is Nigeria, Central America, China, Russia going to do about taking back all the people that they send here from releasing them from their prisons and Asal asylums ?

You claim not to be a Liberal democrat, but I remember when you posted here before your disappearance that you were exactly one of them toxic turds that want to destroy American values of what this country was founded on.

You Liberals are outnumbered here this time around so best watch your mouth.

Simple. If you leave now you can take what's yours plus 500 on us.

If we catch your illegal ass after the grace period, you will be serving 10 in prison which makes Hell look and feel like a pleasant seaside resort.

When your time is up, we will strip you down to your underwear and kick illegal ass out anyway. If you don't tell us where you came from you will stay in that prison until you do...

This process is known as voluntary self-deportation.

Are you an American or a leftist scum pretending to be one?

No valid passport, no travel. No valid birth certificate, no passport. And what about the millions that weren't processed? There goes your theory.


100% import tax means the products will become at least 100% more expensive for American consumers. Or do you believe the importers located in the US will swallow the loss? Trump tried that bullshi*t with Chinese products in 2018/2020 and had to bail out our farmers to the tune of $61+ billion. There goes your theory again.


Waterboard them in Guantanamo until they reveal their nationality. Won't help you one bit if they don't have valid passports or birth certificates. The rest of the world will laugh at you if you try to dump the illegals on them. Not going to happen. And yet another MAGA wet dream gone.


Show me the post, Cletus...

There were many of them and I don't have to show you anything.
You know and we know that you are a full-blown New York Liberal.
Only this time years later you are outnumbered here by us Trumpets.


Your big Liberal obama idea's and agenda haven't worked out so well now have they ?
What a mess we have now thanks to Obozo.