USA News and Poland - part 19

You contradict yourself, either he is not making an argument or he is stacking talking points, you suggest that he is making a weak argument. If his arguments are weak why don't you refute them?


Trump.

To be fair, what's he going to say? Not even Joke is dumb enough to try to claim that the US navy will seize or sink Chinese vessels that ignore the US's illegal blockade. Two tankers yesterday did exactly that and the mighty US navy couldn't do a thing about it. LOL!


And even if they did, as those of us who've worked in the oil industry know, Venezuelan oil is low quality, high sulphur, very thick and sour - basically Joke with added sulphur. And years of sanctions, corruption and under-investment have left the infrastructure there in a terrible state - worse even than Joke's finances and employment prospects.

Those ships have flags, seizing ships on the high seas is piracy, an act of war. Will Trump commit war acts against the whole world. The whole idea of the double blockade is so dumb we should agree "trump" word can be henceforth used as a synonym of the word dumb.
USA destroyed the negotiations at Israel's behest, but that didn't place them in any better position than they were previously, so they are the same desperate situation that forced the USA to accept a cease fire on Iran's terms.
The USA has to either fu*ck of Israel or sink the world's economy, American economy included. No more options. It's a hard one to swallow, but surrendering is the only sane option, so sooner or later it's gonna go that way. End of Story.

Going from some absconded peasant volunteer to working in the oil industry? Yeah, that's about as believable as the rest of the lies you've been making up. lol

Venezuela's crude is heavy and sour, sure, everyone knows that, but pretending that somehow proves your point just shows you're repeating things you half understand.


Calling everything piracy an act of war just makes you sound like another clueless TDS afflicted individual.. Interceptiing ships under santions isnt new. Duh!

And the idea that the U.S. has no options except surrender is pure fantasy. You don't get to declare "end of story" just because your argument sucks.

All youre doing is ranting and pretending its some master strategy...Haha

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China would retaliate economically (rare earths and other exports) and start sending escorts. If the escort is fired upon, then China will fire back, and we will see a limited naval (primarily submarine) and piracy war between the two countries.

The US is only blockading US ships, so US ships can no longer be blockaded by Iran.
Genius.

@Kornivinus
what's the point to reply to that polam white trash? Joker doesn't argue the subject of the debate, he argues the style and tone of the debate, in the process committing numerous logical fallacies that a high schooler would blush at.

i.e "Your post is too long/too simple/ which proves your argument wrong." 'Your argument sounds like what xxx would say'.

ad infinitum.

The Great Satan is losing the war on all fronts, even the shitposting war! . USA reminds of Charlie Sheen, maniacally insane on designer drugs and screaming "I'm winning! I'm winning!" whilst the whole world is aghast.

Iranian Embassy Trolls Trump With 80s-Style Song on Blockade... Hahah
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@Torq

I may add that if NATO would dissolve, it could bring reset with Russia you long for very much.
Prerequisite to that would be Poland nukes in our hands.

It's so dumb that it's gone all the way round, past absolute genius and back round to the dumbest thing anybody has ever heard.

It's even dumber than this (which is merely so dumb it's absolute genius):

It just feels wrong to be enemies with Russia in the long run. For many reasons.


I've always said that: we should have a fearful army, Swiss-style mass territorial defence and nukes - then we can go neutral.

Slavs have to find their place under the Sun.

A people with a Great history (as great as anyone), hundreds of millions strong, but with the voice of a mouse.

The strength must be collected together... into a fist.

Yes, but let's not do it in a racist, fascist way - there are so many non-Slavic nations that historically accompanied us and were our brothers in arms and in life: Hungarians, Tatars, Georgians, Armenians, the numerous peoples of Central Asia and Caucasus, the Balts, Romanians, among others. Is the brotherhood possible again?


As long as there are our banners flying from Oder to Lena, and from Norilsk to Bitola, there is still hope.

Ya, I have a bridge to sell you...

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It most likely will sooner than later.

Confession: i usually mutter "oh gawwwd, the nukes again" under my breath, but I like this idea now. Strong defense, nukes to match the big boys-all for the purpose of going neutral.

Brilliant, really. Kind of place I wouldn't mind residing. A counter to the present insanity.

Does Poland have a Georgia Meloniesque character amongst its political class?

They forget that the Strait of Hormuz isn't theirs to blockade.

And it's not working anyway.....

Look Russia is a big country with nukes and doesn't go anywhere. Relations should be good but that relation can be good only on our terms, For that me need allies and nukes.
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I kind of like Russia because Russia forces us to be strong. They took our empire and always are afraid that empire will strike back, even if they tell us something else. They even make templates and plans of it for us, claiming we are planning it, because that what they would do in our place. so they are even helpful in this way.
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I know, your Trump F for you the US hegemony and we go back to the multipolar world. Enjoy your ride.

@Ironside

I used to like you mate.But you are increasingly looking like a Russophile and anti Polish.....or a traitor.....

I'm a geopolitical realist. Talking about different options. If that goes over your head, don't read it. Relax you are in Britain and it doesn't concern you much.
Also I belive you are Polish, most Poles when it comes to politicks are as dumb as a box of rocks.
Poland need some unii to tech geopolitics.

Speaking of dumb, it's spelled "politics." Maybe learn basic spelling before calling anyone else stupid.


Not from what Ive been hearing. Stop watching the BBC lol

I get it though, everyone on this forum is on Irans side!

There are no 'sides'. Just a country being attacked for no reason.

Trump said, quote: "Leo's Weak on Crime." It clearly shows 0range has no clue about Christianity, zero. It's like him saying that Mother Theresa was "weak" on poverty. His views are much closer to Devlism than to any kind of Christian religion.

What are u 12?
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The US is leaving NATO, and you don't care about Europe, what are you tying to pull here, We don't need refuges like you,.

This has to be the dumbest thing you've ever posted.


Says the guy who moved far away from his country to England...STFU already.

@Joker
True though, fool.

They haven't hurt your country and other democracies have not asked you to get involved with something thousands of kilometres away from you that does not concern you.

The fact that nobody is giving you support speaks volumes.

Did you hear the crap they were spinning about that pilot that was supposedly rescued using technology that defies the laws of physics? They can't even lie well.

"No sides" is just you not understanding or refusing to believe what's actually going on.

And nobody is giving support? That's just flat wrong.

Then you jump to some weird pilot story like it proves anything. You're all over the place like a TDS loon with Trump living in your thick head rent free.


Throwing around "they can't" doesn't mean much when it's already happening. lol

USA didnt leave NATO, Europe pushed us away. Too busy being paranoid about dealing with the consequences of their own migrant policies to stand with us.

At this point, the friendship isn't going to last unless Europe grows a spine.

Except for Poland. Every country in Europe is afraid of what their muzzie migrants would do if they supported the USA.

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Congresswoman Sydney Kamlager-Dove says what everyone is thinking.

"Stevie Wonder can even see how much this war is costing us. So, gas prices are going up. It's almost $10 in California. And fertilizer's going up. I mean, you name it, prices have gone up. And this dude, Dr. Jesus, ok, is wanting to spend $2 billion of your money every single day rather than help you get healthcare. F*ck his ass!"

Speaking of dumb, it's spelt "I've". Maybe learn basic spelling before calling anyone else dumb.


Speaking of dumb, it's spelt "Iran's". Maybe learn basic spelling before calling anyone else dumb.


You mean the one who was supposedly badly injured but who they claim climbed a mountain to get to his rescuers.


It's very obvious that the supposed rescue was yet another failed special operations mission in Iran. Clearly nothing has been learned from the USA's failures in the 1970s.