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Novichok
27 Aug 2024  #301

Quoting RT.com:

The Ukrainian military's incursion into Russia's Kursk Region has cost it dearly, with Kiev's forces suffering 6,600 casualties and losing 73 tanks in their cross-border offensive, according to the latest figures published by the Russian Defense Ministry.

Not true. Only data from the Ukraine Truth Ministry can be trusted.

Paulina
27 Aug 2024  #302

@Admin, it's not up to you to decide which thoughts needs to be quoted - it should be up to the poster. You're going way too far with this - it's some crazy control freak behaviour on your part, not normal modding.

posts should not have more than one quote

Since when? When did that rule update happened?
Also, there's plenty of posts with more than one quote being posted, so what's the deal? If there are multiple thoughts in a message then it's okay to quote multiple times. But some posters essentially post the entire message in multiple quotes which is insulting to reasonable people who remember what the post is about.

People know what you refer to when they read the original post.

You don't know that - you're not "people". I refer to you and your posts.

And people may not feel like or not have the time to read the whole discussion just to know what I'm referring to. And your edits often leave posts not making sense, so you clearly don't know what you're doing. What arrogance on your part! 😡

Also, the posts weren't edited before so why do you have this sudden need to do that? Only the most infamous may be edited.

BTW - posts are not edited. Only the quotes may be cut (but still not edited). Hopefully you understand the difference that "your" posts are not edited.

Miloslaw
27 Aug 2024  #303

Also, is posting a comment with TWO quotes not allowed on PF anymore?

I'm with Paulina here...... why do you allow me multiple posts and not her? Your posts are thoughtfully quoted.

If you take away my ability to make multiple posts I will leave this forum.

I am sure Paulina feels the same way.

Be fair!

Paulina
27 Aug 2024  #304

But some posters essentially post the entire message in multiple quotes which is insulting to reasonable people who remember what the post is about

Two quotes are not "multiple quotes". And not everybody reads whole discussions o_O Also, multiple quotes are not "insulting" to me, so speak for yourself. You may be the owner of this forum, but there are other people on this forum too - not just you. You started the drama over nothing, not me.

I refer to you and your posts.

You've edited Feniks' posts too and she wrote that they made no sense after the edits. So you still don't understand that a quoted text is not "your post / thought." Your or the other member's posts were not edited.

Only the most infamous may be edited.

Oh, really? So what was so "infamous" about this post?: It's edited now.

https://polishforums.com/travel/poland-tourism-88048/2/#msg1988992

Admin, after your edit of this post of mine people may think that I was referreing to the Chinese themed hotel in Kielce since that's the hotel jon357 wrote about in the last comment before mine, but it was my answer to jon357's question about Novotel in another post. You know which hotel I was referreing to, because you saw the quote before deleting it, but people who didn't see the quote will have no idea which hotel I was talking about. Do you understand now? People are not mind readers. Your edits are not making things better, they're making posts more confusing. So far only you are disoriented about edited quotes, but we'll watch how it's going to work in the future.

Paulina
27 Aug 2024  #305

why do you allow me multiple posts and not her?

I think it's because I openly wrote that I've never liked how this forum was run and so I won't support it financially. Admin is clearly petty and vindictive, because I've noticed that every time I criticised PF my posts would get suddenly modded in an overzealous manner :)

And those edits started after the PF fundraising was set up and I declared that I won't back it up, so I guess he's taking it out on my posts lol

BTW - posts are not edited. Only the quotes may be cut (but still not edited). Hopefully you understand the difference that "your" posts are not edited.

Yes, I understand what "editing posts" (not "text" in the posts) mean, but I guess you don't - cutting out quotes, changing the order of the text and embedding images into a post (all of that was done to my posts so far) is editing posts.

If you take away my ability to make multiple posts I will leave this forum.

If Admin keeps targeting my posts in such vindictive, arrogant and idiotic way, then I will leave this forum for sure.

Paulina
27 Aug 2024  #306

You started the drama over nothing, not me.

Dude, you EDITED my post even though there was nothing wrong with it (so you edited it over "nothing"), so you started the "drama". It's hilarious that you allegedly wanted to sell the forum, because your priorities changed or sth, but now suddenly you have the time to analyse every post and every quote to such an extent as to decide which quote is needed and which isn't lol

It's edited now.

What's "edited now"? The quote is still missing.

So far only you are disoriented about edited quotes, but we'll watch how it's going to work in the future.

That's because I react right away after it happens. Whenever I notice that you edited my posts I explain in a seperate post what happened to my post and what I was referreing to. I want to be precise and I don't want people to be confused by my posts.

Feniks
27 Aug 2024  #307

posts should not have more than one quote

People know what you refer to when they read the original post.

Please look at this post of mine:

https://polishforums.com/food/help-recipe-zurek-soup-88587/#msg1986703

I was the first person to reply to the OP. The thread title was edited to include the words 'Zurek soup' which made my post look as if I was suggesting a type of soup that the OP already knew about, which clearly she didn't.

Also, the first quote in that post wasn't made by me, it was edited and added after I posted it. So, an extra post was added as you clearly didn't think I had given an adequate explanation. Two things that are at odds with your quotes above.

To be honest I'm fed up with all this. It used to be that 3 quotes were allowed so I dutifully complied and made two posts if I had multiple people to reply to. I then found the posts were being merged into one containing 5 or 6 posts which was supposedly against the rules. It's a no win situation.

This isn't the first time my posts have been edited recently either.

jon357
27 Aug 2024  #308

Zurek

I sometimes wish the time for editing is longer, especially due to the very slow internet speed and poor connection here. In that recipe for cheese biscuits the other day, I forgot to say not to add salt to the dough because of the cheese but it was too late.

Przelotnyptak1
27 Aug 2024  #309

If you take away my ability to make multiple posts I will leave this forum.

Hell, I was under the impression this craziness was happening to me only; I see now it is widespread. Maybe Jon is not the vindictive nit, maybe I was wrong,
maybe some crazed lunatic took it upon himself to be a tormentor. Jon, you are still the suspect, to a lesser degree though

Feniks
27 Aug 2024  #310

I sometimes wish the time for editing is longer,

I think it's about 5 minutes. It could do with being a bit longer as quite often I'm too late with an edit because I thought of something else to be added a few minutes after posting.

In the case of the Zurek soup thread, the title was edited hours after the thread was opened. Slow internet connection must be a real pain.

maybe I was wrong,

You are 100% wrong.

Paulina
27 Aug 2024  #311

To be honest I'm fed up with all this.

I'm fed up with this too. In the past multiple posts were allowed and noone had a problem with that. Then it went down to three, then to two and now it's only one?? What's next? No quotes allowed at all? We'll be forced to write descriptive essays, so people would know what we're talking about? It's a freaking internet forum and not literature/writing classes. It's supposed to be entrainment, fun, not torture. I'm not going to waste my time spending hours on crafting my posts in such a way as to not to "trigger" Admin. Especially that I clearly don't know what "thoughtfully quoted" means to Admin and so posting on PF will be for me like playing a Russian roulette now and a waste of time :(

I then found the posts were being merged into one containing 5 or 6 posts which was supposedly against the rules. It's a no win situation.

Exactly.

I was under the impression this craziness was happening to me only; I see now it is widespread.

Damn, so Admin wasn't vindictive after all - he's really a control freak... o_O

Paulina
27 Aug 2024  #312

multiple posts were allowed

*quotes, sorry

Przelotnyptak1
28 Aug 2024  #313

Dear Feniks, 100% of what, everything? Why are you so angry with me? What have I done to offend you? What is the source of your anger? At least tell me what I should apologize for. I honestly have no clue. Please enlighten me

johnny reb
28 Aug 2024  #314

What have I done to offend you?

Nothing Ptak besides the fact that you are an American male.
She hates American males because we are a threat to her intellect.
I haven't been here for a couple of days so she has had no one to stalk and troll so she picked you as her new victim.

Hey, we finally arrived and got settled in and it looks like my hotspot is working here so I can post so 'Dead Man Walking' can't project his lie that I am in prison.
The scenery here is just breath taking.
God has blessed me in so many different ways.

Paulina
28 Aug 2024  #315

I sometimes wish the time for editing is longer

I think it's about 5 minutes. It could do with being a bit longer

It used to be less (2 or 3 minutes). It's 5 minutes (edit: or over 6 now? o_O) only because I made a "drama" that there's too little time to edit a post. Of course, at first Admin claimed that it's enough and that it's a problem only for me. Only after more people complained he finally made that change. It's honestly tiresome that on this forum a bunch of users have to make a "drama" in order for the admin to listen to the voice of reason.

Lenka
28 Aug 2024  #316

It used to be that 3 quotes were allowed so I dutifully complied

You are better person then me. I ignored it completely.

But some posters essentially post the entire message in multiple quotes which is insulting to reasonable people who remember what the post is about.

Not as insulting as changing people's posts when they are on topic/ not trolling.
Not to mention all that depends on how often/ how you read thread. You are here rarely and read big portions of a thread at one time. A lot of us will read small portions of different threads when we are here and the nothing for some time and back. In that case you don't follow the discussion in a way that enables you to remember the post. Of you are like me and check the forum on a phone you can read posts one by one sometimes.

I think the quote thing does nothing to improve and is a rule for rules sake. It's easier for people who don't like them to move to the text under the quote then it is for people who don't to figure out what the post refers to.
You are 100% wrong.

As usual tbh

Paulina
28 Aug 2024  #317

Not as insulting as changing people's posts when they are on topic/ not trolling.

Exactly.

will read small portions of different threads when we are here and the nothing for some time and back. In that case you don't follow the discussion in a way that enables you to remember thepost.

It's the same with me and I think it's obvious to any normal person, imho. You don't have to be a titan of intellect to understand that. So either Admin is not a normal person or the reasons he gives for cutting out quotes are bullsh1t.

I think the quote thing does nothing to improve and is a rule for rules sake.

I'm wondering if some kind of new SEO guidelines came into being and maybe that's why Admin is obsessing over cutting down on quotes even more o_O That doesn't explain some other stuff that has been done to posts though...

It's easier for people who don't like them to move to the text under the quote then it is for people who don't to figure out what the post refers to.

Of course. But, again, that's a sane person's take on the issue... I honestly don't understand what's going on in Admin's head and where he's getting his ideas about what people "know" or what they find "insulting" and why he thinks that he has the right to speak on behalf of others.

Ironside
28 Aug 2024  #318

Dude, you EDITED my post even though there was nothing wrong with it (

There is plenty of wrong with your post. So don't go this route
.
Not as insulting as changing people's posts

stop complaining this forum will soon close anyway why do you make a dance and song about it?

Lenka
28 Aug 2024  #319

why do you make a dance and song about it?

Because I want to.
This forum is still open and I'm still a member. I'm allowed to have an opinion about how things are being done here.

johnny reb
28 Aug 2024  #320

In the Admin. defense....... so hopefully the ragging and drama will STOP..........
Ten reasons for you females to ponder.
1. There is a little box below the thread that says, Preview (Do ya see it ?)
You can preview your damn post BEFORE you post it and can make your corrections there.
Why would you post it and then take 5 minutes to make your corrections ????
Preview allows to do that BEFORE you submit your final post.
Problem solved
So either Admin is not a normal person or the reasons he gives for cutting out quotes are bullsh1t.

HE ? In your feminist eyes the Admon has to be a "he" to diminish & shame them. lol
No, your whing is bullshit because the Admin has posted plenty of times that while reading a thread it should "flow" like a conversation.
You know that.
If you need more quotes, then make a second post to continue with your meltdown.
Problem solved
3. You boast of contributing no funds and are using this forum for free so beggars can't be choosy.
In fact you should have no say at all.
All you do is come here to argue, diminish, create drama and rag with your depressing feminist posts.
How many people have told you to go find a man to put a smile on your scowling face.
It is very obvious that you are way overdue and have cobwebs in it..
4. Why you think that you are the class president here has always amazed me.
5.There are feminist forums out there where everyone has the same opinion about demanding CONTROL over everyone else.
6. We respect your opinions here even though they are sometimes wrong.
7. No one is begging you to post here, that's your choice.
8. Listen to I.S. (stop complaining this forum will soon close anyway why do you make a dance and song about it?)
9. You act like you are the owner of this forum and you are not, you are just another turd like the rest of us.
10. Maybe you should take a break for a while as you take this place WAY TO SERIOUS !

I still like you though. 😋

Bratwurst Boy
28 Aug 2024  #321

Paulina, soon it's a new month again...maybe something chipping in for the continuation of PF would get you abit more leeway too?

Lastly I heard you only insulting the mod....but not wanting to help out one bit....and then these demands? Do you take everything for granted here?

Tlum
28 Aug 2024  #322

I use Preview all the time. It's a great feature here.

pawian
28 Aug 2024  #323

1. There is a little box below the thread that says, Preview (Do ya see it ?)

I can`t and am surprised sth like that exists.

Paulina
28 Aug 2024  #324

maybe something chipping in for the continuation of PF would get you abit more leeway too?

After Admin's latest stunt? You must be kidding me lol
I don't want some kind of "leeway" - I simply don't want my posts to be edited for some crazy/incomprehensible reasons. Is that too much to ask? Seriously?? o_O

Lastly I heard you only insulting the mod....

How am I "insulting" a mod? And I wasn't talking to a mod, but to the Admin who's been behaving like an a$$hole to users for years, so cry me a river...

but not wanting to help out one bit....

I am helping out by providing on topic, quality content to this forum and answering people's questions - that's more than this forum deserves.

and then these demands? Do you take everything for granted here?

What on Earth are you talking about? What "demands"? :D So Admin wouldn't mess up my posts by editing them - that's some kind of unrealistic, bold demand on my part? lol 🤦

I use Preview all the time.

Me too. Still, I do need to edit posts sometimes, because I'm often in a hurry when I'm writing.

Bratwurst Boy
28 Aug 2024  #325

that's more than this forum deserves.

That sounds quite hostile!

If I don't like a site I just don't go there....

Paulina
28 Aug 2024  #326

That sounds quite hostile!

I'm just being honest. I've been honest for quite some time about what I think about PF and how it is run and so have other people over the years, so I don't know why some people act like it's such a great forum suddenly and everything is peachy and normal here o_O

If I don't like a site I just don't go there....

So is this why you and Torq set up that other forum in the past? Because you didn't like PF?

Bratwurst Boy
28 Aug 2024  #327

Because you didn't like PF?

....everybody and their grandmom (you too) preferred PF!

That makes one think, doesn't it.....is it something psycho? A "hate-love"? :)

You would miss it when it's gone....so chip in some!

Ironside
28 Aug 2024  #328

Because I want to.

Figures, you enjoy your nagging, don't you?
And then these demands?

you see she 'deserves' lol!
that is so-called entitlement in a practical application.

Tlum
28 Aug 2024  #329

Editing, moving, merging, deleting posts is part of an unthankful moderating job. I gather it's impossible to satisfy everyone, but that's not the point. I've seen a commercial where a young person was sitting on a couch playing with his phone and his mom was trying to vacuum the carpet. He got angry at her that she dared to interrupt him. My thought was - why wasn't he doing the chores instead.

pawian
28 Aug 2024  #330

Long live Admin and the mod/mods!!!

łubu dubu, łubu dubu, niech żyje nam prezes naszego forum!!!


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