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Lyzko
6 Aug 2018  #421

The sign of an ignorosis is the inability of admitting to the possibility of ever being wrong, much as with our Juvenile Delinquent -in-Chief!

Rich Mazur
6 Aug 2018  #422

...as only He knows your heart.

1. There is a rumor that God is a she. 2. My heart is a pump and nothing else. 3. There are many heart conditions. Soft and hard aren't on the list. 4. I mock people, not clever stories. 5. God, like Zeus is a cute story. 6. Praying gets you nothing. Name the last time you got what you prayed for, including my disappearance from this forum. 7. What courses do I take to get educated on prayers?

BTW, would you be able to enumerate the relevant differences between your God and Zeus?

Yeah, I know, here comes a deflection or some other dismissive, faith-based, dumb comment.

The sign of an ignorosis is the inability of admitting to the possibility of ever being wrong, much as with our Juvenile Delinquent -in-Chief!

As Judge Judy said: I was wrong once. It was in 1947.

Are you trying to be another Confucius?

johnny reb
6 Aug 2018  #423

Confucius say:
There are no atheists in hell.
Once there, they will realize there is a God.

Rich Mazur
6 Aug 2018  #424

There are no atheists in hell.

So, where am I going? Oh, I see. I will repent. Well, it is going to be a very cold day in there when that happens.

BTW, is it true that in Heaven 8-bangers are not allowed, only Priuses and Teslas?

johnny reb
6 Aug 2018  #425

So, where am I going?

Not my job to judge that.
You will find out in the next ten fifteen years though.

Well, it is going to be a very cold day in there when that happens

Not my choice, that is yours and yours only.

BTW, is it true

Yes, you heard right as all worldly goods stay here on earth and turn to rust including your 8 banger.
What I find so ironic about atheist is that they are always talking about God.

Rich Mazur
6 Aug 2018  #426

What I find so ironic about atheist is that they are always talking about God.

I find it amusing. Not so much God, which is a story like Zeus, but the followers and how much damage they inflicted on themselves, their kids, and the rest of us. When you (editorial) can sell that story, you can sell anything like communism, fascism, UFO's, deficit spending, wars, global warming, NAFTA, etc,. because all of them started with a lie that sounded good, with no debate or questioning allowed. Remember ACA and that "you have to pass it to see what's in it"? Same s***.

Blind and faithful followers are the curse of humanity. This is why no army likes older guys. Not because they are too weak. It's because they know too much, and are too cynical to make f*****g with their brains an easy task. That is best done on the 18 to 22 year-olds.

TheWizard
6 Aug 2018  #427

Lol rm you are comparing global warming to religion? Does religion have ice core samples going back heaps so we can test them, does religion have sat imiges even a kid can see are relevant, does religion have the other huge piles of evidence? Nope.

Unfortunately rm you are the same as the religious in this case, you have ignored the evidence. Science has nothing to do with opinion or belief and your posts betray the fact that you are not a scientific person. Time for baby boomers and their pseudo science to f off to the grave, not smart enough for the modern age, its all gone over your heads you crackpots.

Rich Mazur
6 Aug 2018  #428

Science has nothing to do with opinion or belief and your posts betray the fact that you are not a scientific person.

Global warming is a religion, not science, for these reasons. (1) Science is never based on 'consensus', just as nobody took a vote to prove the law of gravity. (2) Science never uses the term 'deniers'. (3) Science never punishes the challengers. (4) Science welcomes skeptics and the opposing opinions. (5) Those in charge of keeping global warming data had to recant after admitting that it was false or falsified. (6) Science is not driven buy a desire to impose new taxes.

BTW, Several months ago, I called the Miami Port Authority (Phone: 305-347-4800) and asked this: Do you monitor the water level? Yes. Did the water level change in the last 30 years. No.

To be sure, I called the LA port guys, too. Same questions, same answers. Facts are a b*****.

Dirk diggler
6 Aug 2018  #429

Juvenile Delinquent -in-Chief!

That juvie delinquent has done more for the us economy in 1.5 years than the last two presidents combined. Even the liberals can't deny how Trump has given the economy a shot in the arm and grew our gdp by tens of billions in a very short time... not to mention other countries now treat us with respect again and not a sugar daddy to take advantage of - especially NATO and especially germany.

That is why the Indians have the right idea. If any us leader deserves to have a shrine it's definitely trump

Rich Mazur
6 Aug 2018  #430

That juvie delinquent has done more for the us...

Hate has a funny way of making smart people say stupid things. In this case, Delinquent-in-Chief wouldn't be enough, hence an exclamation mark and Juvenile.

Now, that is how maturity, combined with high IQ, should always manifest itself.

johnny reb
7 Aug 2018  #431

Not so much God, which is a story like Zeus

According to the gospel of King Dick's opinion again. (sigh)

Blind and faithful followers are the curse of humanity.

You are referring to atheists correct ?

its all gone over your heads you crackpots.

I have just written it off as the blind leading the blind.

Rich Mazur
7 Aug 2018  #432

Well, I decided to follow your advice and started praying. My first prayer was: Almighty, if it is your will and a plan to have violence, please, make the perp a Muslim immigrant. And my prayer was answered.

From foxnews.com/us/2018/08/05/iraqi-immigrant-accused-shooting-colorado-cop-has-criminal-history-yet-avoided-deportation-report-says.html

Iraqi immigrant accused of shooting Colorado cop has criminal history, yet avoided deportation, report says.

Here is another of my prayers at work. From dailymail.com:

Three mothers arrested for 'abusing and starving' their eleven children at heavily armed 'extremist Muslim' compound in New Mexico.

See, I can stay on topic with prayers and Muslims at the same time. It's a twofer.

TheWizard
7 Aug 2018  #433

Rm. You provided no evidence in your response to me above. Just some opinion. This is of no use in such things, i am going to go with religion being more accurate than what you wrote.

Lyzko
7 Aug 2018  #434

@Dirk, High-Tech is scarcely the only sector of economic growth! No, Trump's a scamster from way back when, putting on a grand ol' show, no different from any clever huckster...American style.

Rich Mazur
7 Aug 2018  #435

Rm. You provided no evidence in your response to me above. Just some opinion.

In my post 428 I gave the most comprehensive response that fits a forum. Six point that are objectively verifiable and true. You skipped over them like I never did and now you are telling me that it was me who didn't provide evidence. Nice trick to avoid a debate - demanding "evidence". Did you ever demand evidence from the believers in God? You didn't because you know they can't deliver. I cited what I read over the years. It's impossible to bring all of that to a forum in form of a single post. You know it but you did it anyway.

@Dirk, High-Tech is scarcely the only sector of economic growth! No, Trump's a scamster from way back when

You would never offer anything this shallow in a public debate. They would burst out laughing and you would never be invited again. A dog p*ss on a sidewalk is deeper.

johnny reb
7 Aug 2018  #436

Did you ever demand evidence from the believers in God?

I can give you all the evidence you want in my Faith.
Requesting evidence other then that is really a moot point between Believers and Non Believers.
God gave us all a free will to do what we want with it.
I have my beliefs and you have yours.
I chose to be a God fearing man and you did not.
If I my beliefs are incorrect I have nothing to lose, if your beliefs are incorrect you have eternity to lose.
Eternity is a very long time making the stakes way to high for me to throw the dice like you have chosen to do.

Rich Mazur
7 Aug 2018  #437

I can give you all the evidence you want in my Faith.

Since you are a nice guy and you love Trump, I will try not to annoy you about your faith anymore.

Dirk diggler
7 Aug 2018  #438

Dirk, High-Tech is scarcely the only sector of economic growth!

No kidding. There's plenty of other sectors Trump has gotten back on track - commodities esp us steel ehich is opening up new plants after not having a new facility in decades, oil and gas, medicine, services - he'll almost every single company on the s&p 500 is growing. You could.make a list of every major us company, throw a dart at random.and chances are it's grown tremendously under Trump, far better than under Obama

No, Trump's a scamster from way back when, putting on a grand ol' show, no different from any clever huckster...American style.

So? He's a good salesman and understands the power of a brand and marketing. I hate to break it to you but almost every millionaire let alone billionaire didn't get such a net worth by being a pushover and crying about fairness and being kind to everyone. No they got their by having balls, being assertive, not taking sh1t and seizing opportunities even if it means someone has to lose. That's the game and Trump knows how to play it.. so like the saying goes don't hate the player hate the game

Lyzko
7 Aug 2018  #439

Dirk, if a country has no standard, is a place where the ends always justify the means, and nobody can believe anything anybody says, be it about business or much else, what's the bloody point in living there then?

Even the great "Prof." Harold Hill eventually got run outta town on a rail!! And rightly so too.

Rich Mazur
7 Aug 2018  #440

Global warming as a religion... Please refrain from posting links and excessive quotes.

Just google global warming religion and you will get 142 million hits and a lot of interesting links.

TheOther
8 Aug 2018  #441

I can't wait for the day the climate change deniers find out that their precious beach front property will be flooded permanently.

Rich Mazur
8 Aug 2018  #442

You may have to wait another 30 years. It's been that long since 1988 when the first GW alarm was issued. Along the way, a prediction of Miami under one foot of water was made.

I called the Port of Miami and asked if they monitor the water level and if the water level has changed since 1988. Yes, we do. No, it did not, were the answers. You can do it yourself since, as a habitual liar, my credibility here is zero: Port of Miami 1015 North America Way, 2nd Floor Miami, Florida 33132. Phone: 305-347-4800.

As a concerned citizen, you should give them a call.

BTW, did you notice how they sneakily switched from global warming to climate change? I wonder why since warming is scary and change is not. In fact, if the original claim were 'change' there would be no skeptics as change is undeniable. So, why, do you think, that switch?

Dirk diggler
8 Aug 2018  #443

what's the bloody point in living there then?

Imo, to be happy and different things make people happy. For some it's fast cars and pretty women, for others its gardening, others it's skydiving. For almost everyone it's family and friends and imo a man's job in life is to be a provider and keep his family safe.

Dirk, if a country has no standard, is a place where the ends always justify the means, and nobody can believe anything anybody says,

The only standard people go by in modern society is jurisprudence and even then there's leeway depending on who you are, your connections, how much money you have etc. I'm a machiavellian so I personally believe the ends justify the means. And you really can't believe what people say. Even lifelong friends and family stabbed loves ones in the back for gain or to get out of a jam. From what I've experienced in my short life people life all the time whether its white lies like saying a wife's cooking is tasty or tricking people to sign a contract or politicians campaigning on things they never intend to fulfill. Which actually Trump is head and shoulders above the rest - Trump actually carried out or is carrying out his campaign promises. That is extremely rare in the us nowadays and it sure as he'll wouldn't of been the case with crooked Hillary and probably not Sanders either, who scammed a bunch of people in Poland and left to escape a shallow grave from all the angry people they ripped off

Rich Mazur
8 Aug 2018  #444

Rule number one in life: trust no one until you absolutely have to. A mutant of that rule: When you hear "God spoke to me", run away as fast as you can while clutching your wallet.

johnny reb
8 Aug 2018  #445

Rich I have to agree with you on rule number one.
My father instilled that one in me at a very young age and it has held true all my life.
The only one that has never lied to me or let me down is in my Faith with my best friend Jesus Christ.

Lyzko
8 Aug 2018  #446

Most Machiavellians are merely once normally decent folk who've merrily traded in their conscience, their humanity, their soul, in exchange for the quick-fix called peace of mind!.

Well. in my long experience, sir, that's one mighty short-lived peace, I must say:-) If everybody thought as you, there'd be no purpose in life now, would there?

Trump's, like Reagan, is a pure social Darwinist, corrupting (even if unintentionally) the entire notion of "Survival of the Fattest" to blithely justify scummy behavior, not justfiable in ANY civilized human society.

The Nazis likewise thought that some people are entitled to live, while others were slated for extermination, solely because of who they are.
Paul Krugman and I were brought up to believe that America was different; I guess we were wrong.

Dirk diggler
8 Aug 2018  #447

Well that's how modern capitalist democracies and republics work. Any other system has proven to be subpar, inefficient, out of date, etc. Even in socialism and communism you had survival of the fittest - id say to an even greater degree than capitalism. Atleast in most modern capitalist societies there's a portion of funds devoted to the poor, the old, sick, etc. Although commies promised that, in reality it never happened.

to blithely justify scummy behavior, not justfiable in ANY civilized human society.

I disagree. Competition, which more often than not includes scummy behavior as people and orgamizations seek to gain an advantage anyway they can, is what has created the modern world. It is what drives capitalist societies where if you aren't up to par, you're cut as opposed to socialism and communism which rewards and perpetuates mediocrity. Also it's the ones at the top of the game that are the biggest contributors to the bottom.

The Nazis likewise thought that some people are entitled to live, while others were slated for extermination, solely because of who they are.

And you think our system is any different? If anything it's even more cruel. Atleast with the Nazis it was a quick shot or bullet. In the USA people have to suffer their whole lives if they're poor or uneducated. You get that from every angle if you're not wealthy - medical care, the court system, even the types of jobs you can get. If you can't afford an education and a nice suit you're going to end up serving fries or driving uber for 40 years till you're 'retired' which basically means you'll get a social security where you'll have to decide which bill to pay and which to put off and the public insurance won't even cover your meds. All so the unconstitutional fed and government can tax the tiny amount youve made your life. Imo that's far more cruel and devious.

johnny reb
8 Aug 2018  #448

I will never question that which is divine, only ask that I do not have a mouth full of water when we all find out the truth.

We may know it but we are a species with a designed amnesia.
The ones we have had teach us anything and everything, seem to be alluding to the fact they are fallen, all of them.
That they had Enoch beseech the true God about their shortcomings.
So what man has indoctrinated into religion, they will pay for all the misleading crap, oh yes they will.
So will we if we backslide. Pray for me my friend.
I am prone to backsliding, like the Apostle Paul, that which I want to do, I am powerless unless it is of the Lord that moves me.

That which I would not do because it is offensive to the Lord, I do of my own accord, so My knees are sore from prayer as well.

Its a daily struggle, no one is confirmed in until dead anyways.
So may I suggest that we pray for each other.

corrupting the entire notion of "Survival of the Fattest" to blithely justify scummy behavior

Why should, what you call a weakling civilized society, who have made the choice to demand to be pampered by and have the laws and rules changed to benefit their whims ?

Dirk is right, what you want is the men of this country to submit to becoming women.
The alpha man is the head of the household in America (contrary to the single feminists beliefs) and it has worked very well since the beginning so why change something that is not broke ?

The limp wristed weak come in last no matter how loud they cry.
It's called the survival of the fittest no matter man or animal.

Dirk diggler
8 Aug 2018  #449

What made American society and Europe strong is a faith system. In Poland the nationalists have a saying Bog, Honor, Ojczyzna (also my next tat written below a winged hussar driving a pike through a turks face. Design is already done) which means God, Honor, Country. For centuries, eons even that is what kept families together and kept men being men - providers who fight for their country and customs.

Now you have all these limp d1ck limp wrist soy boys who don't lift, are scared of contact sports, and feel women should rule over them and some even share their women while being monogomaus themselves. I remember seeing a YouTube video about a guy bragging how his wifes bf bought him a Nintendo Wii. I was like wtf did i just hesr that correctly? But yes i did, and sadly it wasn't a surprise that a guy would let a dude **** his wife while he plays video games and not only that be ecstatic about it.

Sad times for the future generations... this is what liberalism has caused... but atleast there's a lot of guys who don't buy into that bs and quite honestly in a way it's good because it's less competition for alphas. But still a big con though because overall it ruins society. A society cannot be strong without traditional family values and those are being eroded constantly in the West. You're lucky to have been born and lived during past generations... it's no wonder older generations have such a bad opinion of the youth. Millennials are lost and I can only imagine the gr8 stations afterwards. Well were at a crossroads and it's anyone guess on how things will turn out. But atleast there's always going to be pockets of places like Poland Hungary or even Texas or Alaska where men will continue being real men and women real women and not what liberals in California or the eu tell them to be

Lyzko
8 Aug 2018  #450

Admitting guilt, on occasion weakness, is neither feminine nor masculine from an anthropological/scientific perspective, it's broadly HUMAN!!


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