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TheOther
30 May 2018  #721

because that is all the Dems have got.

From the perspective of a Trump groupie maybe, but the majority of Americans see what damage this administration is doing to the country. You guys don't care, I know, but one day you will pay the price for your ignorance because you will wake up in a Libertarian "paradise" where no one gives a flying hoot about your suffering. Welcome to the future. You deserve it.

Dirk diggler
30 May 2018  #722

one day you will pay the price for your ignorance because you will wake up in a Libertarian "paradise"

I hope that day comes tomorrow. No governmenr cares about someones suffering ni matter how much they pretend. The dems especially aee masters at this - crocodile tears for shooting victims, immigrants, anchor babies, black lives matter etc is all b.s. and used simply for political points. It's unfortunate though that so many people can't see past that. The reps do it too but nothing like the dems.

A meritocracy would be awesome. No more welfare leeches, no more able bodied collecting disability, no more playing the race/religion card, no more affirmative action and virtue signaling. Now that's a paradise. man this day cannot come soon enough

TheOther
30 May 2018  #723

Now that's a paradise.

No hospitals close by and no cops within two hours' drive (the rural paradise), no public schools and no working infrastructure (the metropolitan paradise), no Medicare and no Social Security retirement benefits (the American paradise) - that's what you are looking forward to? Well, at least you have your guns and your Bible...

Lyzko
30 May 2018  #724

Hey there, folks, we're attaching labels where in fact none belong!

What the New Dealers understood is that it's the government's role to see to it that the electorate which voted them into office in the first place is satisfied.

All this bilge about fears of "Big Government takeover" and related topics are just that from beginning to end.

We've been brainwashed by Reaganism to believe that if somehow we're NOT taking (unfair) advantage of a fellow American, we must be doing something wrong.

You see, I'm neither afraid of, nor am I averse, to questioning established shibboleths of our society. I for one understand the long-term results of cause and effect and refuse steadfastly to play "follow the leader" when I know in my heart that the leader, like most, has feet of clay:-)

Dirk diggler
30 May 2018  #725

What does anarchy have to do with getting rid of welfare leeches and end the race card nonsense?

No hospitals close by

Don't be silly - medical care and pharma are among the largest industries in the us and world. Given their necessity in society profit margins theyd still exist

no cops

Now that I especially like. **** the police.

New Dealers

I knew you couldn't go a day without popping an FDR boner... man get over it he sucked.. thanks to his policies and Obama further expanding them our labor force has constantly declined - hitting a record low every consecutive year. And with it the tax base. So what is the dems response? Tax those who don't want to live on welfare and disability and actually want to work and prosper and redistribute it to those satisfied with mediocrity - i.e. the able bodied welfare/disability leech.

The electorate elected trump..So get over it. Stop the obstructionist bullshit and work with him. You cant pick and choose everyone you work with and even if you dont like that person you put your personal.feelings aside and move on and work for the greater good. But the left refuses to do that.

The dem candidates dont even discuss policy anymore. It was bs everything they said but atleast they paid lip service to their constituents desires. Not anymore though. Their only policy is obstruct trump.

Idk how trump does it. He's the president he should've shut down the Mueller investigation via executive order. He has that power. Plus he can pardon anyone he wants so I'm sure he can pardon himself. If he shut down the Mueller witch hunt today a month or two from now people wouldn't be talking about it and theyd move on. Insteaf the left has been talking about bogus collusion and investigations that revealed nothing that wasn't glaringly obvious to an outsider esp with manafort. But no the zionist media and the left has been dragging out this nonsense for over a year. Well it ended up screwing rhem over because there's way more thats been uncovered about the dems than the reps like the spies placed in trumps campaign. That's just sweet sweet irony lol

TheOther
30 May 2018  #726

medical care and pharma are among the largest industries in the us

Yes, but hospitals are leaving rural America in droves at the moment. That's why I wrote "rural paradise"

Joker
30 May 2018  #727

You live in a "fools paradise" which is California.

Were the middle class is leaving in droves back to rural America.

Dirk diggler
30 May 2018  #728

Yes, but hospitals are leaving rural America in droves at the moment.

Idk about that. The rural hospitals in Wisconsin where I frequently go boating, hunting, fishing etc are still there and theyre among the best hospitals in the state. Obviously some will close down as a large hospital simply will not make enough revenue to sustain operations in rural areas. Nonetheless, that doesn't mean that there is a lack of health providers or emergency medicine just because a hospital moved. There's still plenty of doctors, specialists, urgent cares, fire departments with ambulances, etc. But ya if you need a specific.type of surgery you may habe to.travel. That's no.different than in urban areas where a hospital may send you to a specialist or surgeon on the other side of town.

California.

I honestly rather live in Kazakhstan with bored as my neighbor over a place like la or San Fran. But San Fran vs London would require a far longer pros and cons analysis. Now soros is sticking his big nose into California's elections hoping to get someone thats friendly to illegal migrants and will spend more of the taxpayers money. He hates the fact that so many municipalities reject the states sanctuary city b.s.

johnny reb
30 May 2018  #729

Well, at least you have your guns and your Bible...

Damn right and that is all that independent people need.
You cry baby Liberal Socialist have Criminalized Independence with MORE BIG GOVERNMENT to take care of you.
You are slaves to the government.
Us gun totin bible thumpers know how to take car of ourselves.
That is the difference between Dirk & me and you & Lyzko.
We don't need or want big government wiping our ass with handouts.

Lyzko
30 May 2018  #730

@Dirk, if it weren't for the New Deal, most people today wouldn't be alive, and that includes the "Greatest Generation" who, thanks to FDR, fought and often died for the privilege of being an American.

The definition of a Calvinist Puritan is anyone who sees someone being rewarded for their labor, watches them sit down on a nice, generous comfy chair....and then kicks the chair out from under them, either laughing at or excoriating them in the process:-)

@No Johnny! I don't want the government wiping my butt with handouts. On the other hand, where aide is earnestly and honestly needed, as with any civilized, enlightened neighbor, it should be there. Difference between us is, I don't bully or tease someone who's down on their last legs. I try to help 'em up, in the end allowing them to become more independent, if you will.

TheOther
30 May 2018  #731

We don't need or want big government wiping our ass with handouts.

Neither do I, but radical libertarianism - and that's where we're heading right now - means something else. It's every man for himself. If you really want this then I have absolutely no sympathy for you or anybody else of your ilk. Evolution will take care of you.

Were the middle class is leaving in droves back to rural America.

curbed.com/2018/2/27/17058006/california-housing-crisis-rent-migration-texas

Quote:
"California is seeing a net gain in high earners (making $110,000 or more) and the highly educated (graduate degrees or higher), while losing those representing the other end of the socioeconomic spectrum."

rural hospitals

agweb.com/article/a-third-of-rural-hospitals-in-danger-of-closing-naa-john-herath

Dirk diggler
30 May 2018  #732

most people today wouldn't be alive

Considering the extreme state of overpopulation and dwindling resources, that wouldnt be a bad thing.

try to help 'em up, in the end allowing them to become more independent, if you will.

Same if they're legitimately in need. However I can't count the amount of times I've offered to buy a panhandler a sandwich only for them to demand cash instead and then go crazy, one time violent when I refused.

Far too many people have become reliant on handouts. Ever wonder why they post signs in the parks that say dont feed the animals? Because the animals, just like.those in the inner city, get use to handouts and bother people who give them for more, never less. Had I been raised differently and not saw the benefits of work, investing, entrepreneurship id likely habe atleast two baby mommas with 2 to 3 kids each but atleast id still have my new escalade, my pounds of weed and now disability for side income and section 8 as rent. And aside from selling a few bags everyday I wouldn't have to work. And I certainly wouldn't have to worry about paying the bills or rent ad taxpayers take care of all that. I'd just have to make sure I sold enough weed to pay for the girls in whos name my caddy is registered in. And indeed thats how countless benefits leeches live.

I see these people all the time. They're just waking up and smoking their first of many blunts of the day after ive already put in a good 5 hours of work.

California is seeing a net gain in high earners (making $110,000 or more)

Considering

110k is nothing in San Fran or la. Facebook engineers make far more and were begging zuck the cuck for a raise since they could barely afford to pay their rent, much less buy a home.

It's every man for himself. If

I'm all for social Darwinism and survival of the fittest. Less stupid people and welfare leeches. The people who are actually disabled and cant work should receive support rhough. Thats a tiny minority though. Stephen hawking couldnt wipe his own ass yet he continued working instead of living off disability. It's a dog eat dog world already and if you're not smart you gotta at least be aggressive.

You end all the entitlements and benefits and after all the able bodied bums use to living off taxpayers for generations and they feel hungry after a few days theyll be begging for a min wage job. Bye bye living a 60k a year existence on the taxpayers dime.

Thankfully poland doesn't have thus problem. The benefits are just enough for a person not to starve. If you want a cell phone, a nice apartment, internet etc you have to pay for it like the rest of society. That's why the migrants dont want to come to poland..why would they when germany gives them 1500 euro per head for nothing - theyre not even citizens much less assimilated in the society or able to speak.german. at best the more entrepreneurial ones open a kebab stand. Oh huge contribution to the society... as if thats exactly what germany needs.more kebab stands.

johnny reb
30 May 2018  #733

The people who are actually disabled and cant work should receive support rhough. Thats a tiny minority though.

That is correct and I agree, a VERY TINY minority but to listen to the pity partiers here you would think we were kicking the chair out from under the ones that really deserve assistance.

I will say it one more time and even highlight it, "The poor in America are the wealthiest poor in the world"
In short, there are no poor people in America, get it !
You want to see poor let me take you to Jamaica or some other third world and I will show you poor.

Dirk diggler
31 May 2018  #734

Like I said, there's a reason why there are signs 'do not feed the animals'

TheOther
31 May 2018  #735

you would think we were kicking the chair out from under the ones that really deserve assistance.

Wait for the nice surprises that Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell have in store for you. You're constantly shooting yourself in the foot, and you're still too ignorant to notice that you are slowly bleeding to death. Good luck ... you will need it.

I'm all for social Darwinism and survival of the fittest. Less stupid people and welfare leeches.

Good thing that Trump's voter base will be the first ones to go the way of the Dodo.

johnny reb
31 May 2018  #736

You're constantly shooting yourself

That's what you Trump Haters keep saying but we never hear any of your ideas so we can badmouth them to shoot you in the foot.

All we have heard for the last two years is Hate Trump remarks.
Tell us the platform the Democrats have to disarm N. Korea or stop illegal immigration or keep the economy growing.
What are the Dems going to do to make America Great again besides bankrupt it.
Who you gonna have run in 2020 besides Oprah & Moochell ? Jo Bite me ?
You have run out of material along time ago and keep repeating the same old b.s.......HATE TRUMP !
Is that the only propaganda you have, hate Trump ?

Joker
31 May 2018  #737

He hates the fact that so many municipalities reject the states sanctuary city b.s.

I hope the people take back the streets and Soros has a heart attack and keels over:)

Tell us the platform the Democrats have to disarm N. Korea or stop illegal immigration or keep the economy growing.

Hahaha that will be the day!

The Dems would rather see another world war before any kind of success for Trump.

You have run out of material along time ago and keep repeating the same old b.s.......HATE TRUMP !

He has a case of TDS Trump Derangement Symptom

latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-raimondo-trump-derangement-syndrome-20161226-story.html

In the first stage of the disease, victims lose all sense of proportion. The presidents every tweet provokes a firestorm, as if 140 characters were all it took to change the world. lol

In the advanced stages of the disease, the afflicted lose touch with reality. Opinion is unmoored from fact. Life resembles a dark fairy tale in which the villain - Trump - is an amalgam of all the worst tyrants in history. Its so true!

TheOther
31 May 2018  #738

^^^^
Silly MAGA twins. <Shrug>

Dirk diggler
31 May 2018  #739

Soros

It's over for him in Eastern Europe - Austria has kicked him out, he's totally packed up and left Hungary and I pray that Poland kicks his ass out too. Bathory Foundation needs to be closed down asap.

That's what he gets for sticking his nose. Now Hungary is about to pass a bill that will criminalize the Soros affiliates that helped bring migrants into the country. So no more Israelis bringing in Muslims to Europe. Can you imagine if a Polish Christian stood on the Israeli border and helped smuggle in Muslims - help them out of the boats or trucks, hand them water, etc.? Israel would freak - yet there's Israelis who wear some t-shirts with Hebrew writing helping smuggle migrants on European shores. It's insanity how this is allowed and those people aren't prosecuted for aiding and abetting illegal smuggling. At least FINALLY a country's voters elected a party that will finally end the insanity. And now even Italy and Austria too are going anti-migrant. Austria is cutting migrant benefits to something like 700 EU a month - which is still 700 too much. In Poland the most that a migrant would get from benefits is something like 80 or 100 euro - just enough for him to not starve to death. That's why Poland isn't flooded with Muslim and African migrants - our handouts are too small. That's all it is. As soon as Denmark decreased its benefits to migrants, they immediately packed up and headed for Sweden and Germany. If these countries stopped rewarding illegal smuggling and redistributing tax money to people who aren't even citizens and in many cases despise the secular society with Christian root, we would be in a much better situation and there wouldn't be so many turd worlders leeching off Europeans. I am SOOOO happy that Poland doesn't have this problem. No wonder more and more people from w Europe are looking to move to places like Poland, Hungary, Czechy, etc. Even on this forum there's regularly Brits asking about moving to Poland. They must've got sick of all the cultural enrichment...

Good thing that Trump's voter base will be the first ones to go the way of the Dodo.

Riiight... Except its liberal soy boy beta cucks that have the sperm counts of an 80 year old man. I doubt they'll even be able to reproduce... yet we're the ones who are going to go extinct lol? Same with the blacks of whom over 90% vote democrat. They complain about the cops killing them, but they're doing a far better job of killing each other than even the most racist cop could dream of. Just look at the FBI statistics.... In Chicago it's no different - they're not even the majority of the population yet represent over 80% of both murder convicts and murder victims.

Yes, the left will survive but only because it coddles immigrants and pushes diversity so much (which always means less white people). They want to stuff as many 'diverse' people into positions of power regardless of merit. But at the same time their roles are largely symbolic because even the leftist whites know that they can't give their token diversity hires too many important responsibilities because they'll **** it up. The white leftists have this permanent neurosis that they can never do enough to atone for their ancestors' supposed sins for developing the modern world. I mean literally in Seattle white leftists threw a 'reparations party' for black people - they put up a bunch of money so that black people could drink at the bar for free, oh and course no white people were allowed.... This is the constant coddling of non-white people by the left - and it was totally evident too with the 'racial bias' training at starbucks earlier this week. But that will never be enough... Maybe all the white leftists will to commit ritual suicide so that the 'oppressed' black and brown man can have all their stuff. That's why blacks are asking all this sh1t from white people. It goes right back to 'don't feed the birds.' You have blacks making youtube videos demanding money, housing, even beyonce tickets. They hate white people - especially young blacks and especially young black women. And yet the white leftists keep indulging them.

The left always criticizes the right for 'hatred.' Yet that's exactly what they display towards Trump, white people, Christians, and anyone who is socially conservative. They preach all this BS about acceptance, tolerance, etc yet they NEVER tolerate anything that isn't in line with their ideologies. If you don't support gay marriage, they hate you because you're a homophobe. If you want better border control, they hate you because you're a racist. If you want traditional roels in your family, they hate you because you're sexist. And it's nonstop - that's the only rebuttals the left has - call people racist, xenophobe, sexist, etc. Except they totally wore it out. They call everyone and everything racist and hence totally wore the word out. It's only Zionists' media that still indulges them...

At the end of WW2 as the tensions between Soviets and the US was increasing in Germany, a speaker at the UN said that even though people disagree, they must work together... even though they may dislike each other, they should UNDERSTAND each other, even though they may make solutions that aren't perfect, they are at least solutions we should be proud of. But that's the problem with the left - they don't want to understand the right. They don't want to work with the right. It doesn't matter whether you like trump, or white people, or Christians or whatever. They're a part of this country and simply refusing to work with them only makes things works for everyone - but they don't care. The only policies that the dems have in this election cycle is 'hate trump.' Nothing about budgets, nothing about border security, nothing about taxes (not that their constituents would care as so many of them don't pay income or business tax anyway) - no it's just 'hate trump and obstruct him and the reps, call all their supporters racist' that's all they know how to do...

Oh and how is that little Trump collusion investigation working out for the left?? It turns out, like people have been saying all along, that they're the ones who have been colluding, spying, trying to influence the election, etc and Obama knew all about it.

delphiandomine
31 May 2018  #740

Austria has kicked him out, he's totally packed up and left Hungary and I pray that Poland kicks his ass out too.

Austria didn't, that was a terrible example of fake news. I think even the Polish right wing reported it as being false.

Hungary - excellent way of covering up the huge amounts of thievery going on. Rant about Soros, and people ignore news like this - hungarianspectrum.org/2018/03/26/possible-large-scale-fidesz-money-laundering-uncovered - it's the oldest trick in the book.

Poland won't touch him for multiple reasons, not least the fact that he's got powerful connections in Washington and the fact that the last PiS attempt to interfere with him resulted in Norway very publicly stating that Poland would no longer benefit from the Norwegian funds if they did. PiS quietly backed off, and went quiet on Soros since.

Who started all this anti-Soros stuff? Why, Russia of course.

Dirk diggler
31 May 2018  #741

Hungary - excellent way of covering up the huge amounts of thievery going on

Lol as if huge amounts of thievery is any different in other countries. Everyone in the right place gets a cut thats what keeps the wheels turning.

Also that hurts average people far less than importing hordes of migrants, causing civil wars and manipulating currency to where people have their savings wiped out. Besides, the majority Hungarian voters wanted this and elected obran and fidesz based on a campaign of reducing soros influence, rejecting migrant quotas and distancing themselves from from the eu.

Who started all this anti-Soros stuff? Why, Russia of course.

People disliked soros long before russia upped its propoganda game. Even way back when he admitted he had no problem stealing his fellow jews stuff many people hated him. Actually Israel and especially netanyahu arent too fond of him.

Poland

The whole point was to stop Norwegian funds for soros ngos. He may have a foothold but poles laugh at KOD and he knows he's not going to be able to mold poland into some marxist utopia or flood it with unwanted migrants from w europe.

Man people really hate this guy. Some of the comments are pretty funny. His is time cannot come soon enough.

mobile.twitter.com/georgesoros/status/685824782986809344?lang=en

Lyzko
31 May 2018  #742

Problem is, Dirk, you people are lumping the deserving with the undeserving "handout bums" and leeches all in one basket! That's not fair either, is it?

johnny reb
31 May 2018  #743

We are not lumping them into one basket, you keep trying to do that to confuse the issue with your pity party.
Remember Katrina ?
It was the CHURCHES that came to the rescue of those desperate people at the dome, not the government.
Same way across America every day, it is the local church's (Salvation Army) who feed the desperate people.
The government just throws money at the other 90% what we call the leeches.
I have volunteered my time at both the Salvation Army and my local church distributing free food to the desperate.
Seldom to the "leeches" show up at these places. only the desperate people that need help.
I have witnessed (especially at Christmas time) people I know from the area, dress down into Bum cloths that they have let their wet dog sleep on.

They then go stand out in front of a Big Box store (smoking a cigarette) where everyone has the Christmas war fuzzy generosity with a sign that says, "Help me buy my children a Christmas present" pity party sign.

These leeches take in between $2000 to $3000 a day (tax free) doing this which is totally legal.
Add that to their government welfare handouts and you will understand how they can afford to drive a nicer car then you do, take their family to Disney World and live large.

THOSE are the people we are talking about, not the tiny few desperate people in this country that the churches take care of "IF" they want help.

Many of the desperate people don't want help.

TheOther
31 May 2018  #744

The left always criticizes the right for 'hatred.'

Just read what our self proclaimed American conservatives and pretend Christians on PF have delivered over the past two years, and then come back. Why are you surprised about the reaction? Same thing here at home. Remember what has been going on ever since Obama first got elected? A conservative Republican complaining about "hate" is a bad joke, and you know that.

Except its liberal soy boy beta cucks...

QED

Remember Katrina ?

According to your logic, the victims were all leeches on a pity party. But good leeches, because they later voted for Trump.

johnny reb
31 May 2018  #745

Yes, Crooked Hillary lost and there is nothing you can do about it by parroting your "I HATE TRUP" propaganda day after day.
I drove by the University in your hometown in California the other day and yelled, "President Trump WILL build the Wall !"
30 people had to get counseling, 1734 needed a safe place and classes got cancelled for the rest of the week.

TheOther
31 May 2018  #746

Crooked Hillary lost

There's that squirrel again. When will you get it through your thick skull that I don't care whether Clinton won or not? I care about what Trump and the GOP traitors are doing to the country. Tomorrow it's tariffs on aluminum and steel. Yay, all this winning! Hope the retaliation by Canada, Mexico and the EU will hit the goobers where it hurts. Bigly.

I drove by the University in your hometown in California the other day

And we were already wondering where that foul stench in the air came from all of a sudden... :)

Dirk diggler
31 May 2018  #747

Problem is, Dirk, you people are lumping the deserving with the undeserving "handout bums" and leeches all in one basket! That's not fair either, is it?

Like I said, it is a TINY fraction of people who legitimately who can legitimately claim disability. Stephen hawking couldnt even wipe his own butt, much less stand, carry things, etc. Yet he was still working....

As with the example of the homeless panhandlers, 9 out of 10 times they don't want a sandwich... They want money to buy alcohol and/or drugs

I have no problem with that 1 out of 10 getting some of my tax money. But not tens upon tens of millions of people. Oh and surprise surprise, accoeding to the BLS, blacks and Latinos file the most disability claims far less than whites despite whites being the majority of the us population. Now is that racist? If so, so is the entire field of statistics, mathematics and the entire bureau of labor statistics merely for pointing out a reality...

There are literally tens of millions of people over 43% of the labor force which is roughly 150 million who aren't working and dont want a job. And it keeps going down and down thanks to your bullshit fdr and Obama policies that rewards laziness far more often than helps peoole in need. In just 10 years 4% more people stopped.particiapting in the labor force that may not seem like a large percentage but it represents 6 million less people working in just 10 years. That's less taxes and more people to support

I'm sorry lyzko but I simply don't buy that 80 million people all of whom are categorized as nor in labor force and not looking for work are all needing help. No instead people like fdr and Obama reward laziness and mediocrity.

Oh and fyi labor force participation rates have ticked up under trump. Albiet unemployment is somewhat a bullshit number, it's way down esp among blacks and Latinos.

Tomorrow it's tariffs on aluminum and steel.

I will give you that. That was a bad move especially for the us auto industry.

Lyzko
31 May 2018  #748

And if Stephen Hawking had been living in the US, he'd have been history a long time ago:-)

@Johnny, surprise, I agree with your observation re: churches and Katrina. If they all took the same concern, along with synagogues, for instance, I'd have NO issue whatsoever with a lack of gov't. intervention.

@Dirk, sadly a few rotten apples spoils the whole batch, as usual!

johnny reb
31 May 2018  #749

you people are lumping the deserving with the undeserving

As long as we have finally come to the agreement that their only a very tiny few in America that are actually 'poor' and deserving.

Joker
31 May 2018  #750

Trump and Blago as team are best and last hope to US and world!

Hey Crow,

Have you head the good news yet?

Trump is now considering pardoning or reducing Blago`s prison sentence.

Maybe when Blago gets springed from the big house he will transform into a Democratic Antichrist and seek revenge upon those who railroaded him! lol

Blago 2024! :)


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