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75 Years of Israel and the War - part 2



Feniks
20 Sep 2024  #1021

I don't remember you shedding a tear for these real victims either,

My stance hasn't changed since I wrote this in response to a quote by you:

polishforums.com/off-topic/years-israel-war-part-88224/28/#msg1987298

Everybody and his grandmom truly knows why you are crying...it's a real defeat for the terrorists!

You are nuts if you think that I support terrorism in any way whatsoever. What I am against is innocent people being killed in revenge attacks whether in Gaza or Lebanon. You would call them collateral damage.

I would never take the word of terrorists nor the UN or WHO,

You might find this article interesting. The figures have been deemed accurate by the UN and WHO, but also by the Israeli Intelligence Services, it's an interesting read even if you don't agree with everything said.

thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(24)01169-3/fulltext#:~:text=However%2C%20the%20number%20of%20reported,included%20in%20the%20Ministry%27s%20list.&text=6.

Barney
20 Sep 2024  #1022

I see the most moral army in the world were recorded throwing an injured civilian from a roof top. I dare say the usual suspects will be laughing and saving the memory for some private time with themselves.

x.com/hzomlot/status/1836842024990847080

Vincent
20 Sep 2024  #1023

You might find this article interesting.

Thanks for the link, unfortunately I can't take anything seriously with the abbreviations, UN and WHO in an article.

Bratwurst Boy
20 Sep 2024  #1024

You would call them collateral damage.

Serious question....how would you have handled WWII?

jon357
20 Sep 2024  #1025

how would you have handled WWII?

What a question!

It's hard to image a decent answer that could be made in less than a few volumes of text.

Bratwurst Boy
20 Sep 2024  #1026

...well....I think it's actually quite easy.....you hate collateral damage you can't defend and you for sure can't win....you have to lay down your weapons as you can't use them...you decide to lose! Freedom, lives, everything...easy!

There would be no Poland today...no free Poles today...easy!

Barney
20 Sep 2024  #1027

@Bratwurst Boy
The murder and maiming of children and civilians is not collateral damage, this action was a blind un-targeted attack which is a war crime. NAZIS love their excuses while whinging about everything else.

@jon357
A better question would be what should have happened to the genocidal nation. The fcukers got away with genocide after genocide after genocide and still manage to feel sorry for themselves.

Bratwurst Boy
20 Sep 2024  #1028

NAZIS love their excuses while whinging about everything else.

....maybe I should still cry and scream about the firebombing of Dresden or the loss of half of our country, huh?

There will be surely some like minded people who support some freedom liberation guerrillas killing Poles....maybe Putin wants to support some secret german organziatin getting our land back? You know....just in the night crossing the border and attacking peaceful Poles....

And of course Poles have no right at all to fight back, absolutely not! After all they must never kill Germans!!!!

You know Barney, I get the impression you have no idea whatsoever what a Nazi is! You just throw around words and arguments in the hope some will score...be it "innocents", "collateral damage" or even "Nazi", but you are absolutely clueless!

johnny reb
20 Sep 2024  #1029

Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah has said deadly attacks involving the detonation of communications devices used by the militant group amount to a "declaration of war," blaming Israel for the blasts which he described as "a terrorist act."
I wonder what Nasrallah called the unprovoked invasion of Israel where 1500 innocent Israeli civilians were massacred by Hammas.

Ironside
20 Sep 2024  #1030

And of course Poles

Barney is Irish, so you lay off the Poles, you as a Prussian should be Polish too. lol!
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..maybe I should

Look this attack showed that Israel does not care about the law, international norms, or ethical or moral issues. That all.
Secondly targeting only members of one organization in such a way is impossible. They knew that those pagers would find their way to civilians including doctors and children that is a fact. Yet they couldn't care less because they think animals are animals another fact.
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Also bombing civilians in Gaza and internationally ethnics cealising West Bank and Gaza is another fact.
It means Israel does not have the moral right or any other to claim to be a victim of terrorist attack and to claim that they only defend themselves - that is bold-faced lie.
Also, Israel is permanently in breach of international law and international obligations as agreed upon by the UN. The only thing that defends them against its consequences is the US.

Once you agree to recognize those facts, we are good.

Novichok
20 Sep 2024  #1031

The murder

Learn English, azhole...There is a difference between muder and killing.

On 10/7, Hamas murdered 1500 Israeli civilians.

In Feb 1945, RAF killed 25,000 civilians in Dresden.

See the difference, idiot?

Bratwurst Boy
20 Sep 2024  #1032

Secondly targeting only members of one organization in such a way is impossible.

Well, they just did it! :)

Every civilian is collateral damage, even if the doubt stays why such a "civilian" has a terrorist communication device in the pocket....but targeted where only the murderers themselves, the big and decisive difference!

And oh how they got them, even if hiding in tunnels, hospitals or schools...they got so many of them figuratively by their balls! :)

Once you agree to recognize those facts, we are good.

I hope Israel never ever agreeds to those "facts", Iron....maybe we would be "good", but it would be their end!

johnny reb
20 Sep 2024  #1033

Barney is Irish,

Barns is IRISH !
Why wouldn't he own up to that when I referred to him as being a Brit ?
I see in his profile that he hid that fact too.

Novichok
20 Sep 2024  #1034

Barns is IRISH !

Then he should really STFU since Ireland is just a little irrelevant shithole with funny tax laws and Enya.

johnny reb
20 Sep 2024  #1035

Then he should really STFU

I concur
The only reason I am half way nice to him is because he is most likely related to Atch somehow.
I wonder why he never talks about Irelands government or do that have two governments, one in the North and one in the
South ?

Ironside
20 Sep 2024  #1036

I hope Israel never ever agreeds to those "facts",

Do you think they are delusional?
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I think they are doing it knowing fully well what they are doing.
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but it would be their end!

Are you Israel? You are BB and I need you to recognize reality and facts nothing else. I'm sure Israel will survive without your blind unwavering cheerleading, lol!
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Why wouldn't he own up to that

I don't know it is his business. No rule says people posting here should disclose any personal information or any information whatsoever.

johnny reb
20 Sep 2024  #1037

No rule says people posting here should disclose any personal information or any information whatsoever.

Did you tell Lazarus, jon Milo, joker, and Feniks that ?

Novichok
20 Sep 2024  #1038

he is most likely related to Atch somehow.

This crossed my mind, too. She is probably embarrassed by this leftist clown. Poor Atch...

Miloslaw
20 Sep 2024  #1039

The murder and maiming of children and civilians is not collateral damage, this action was a blind un-targeted attack which is a war crime. NAZIS love their excuses while whinging about everything else

Just like the IRA.......

You know Barney, I get the impression you have no idea whatsoever what a Nazi is!

He doesn't!His IRA were more Nazi/Terrorist than anything the Israeli's have done!

I wonder why he never talks about Irelands government or do that have two governments, one in the North and one in the
South ?

Good point.But Ireland will be reunited one day, but probably not in our lifetimes.

Did you tell Lazarus, jon Milo, joker, and Feniks that ?

Not sure what you mean by that but I have posted some personal stuff on here.Maybe you missed it....

Alien
24 Sep 2024  #1040

Will Israel occupy southern Lebanon?

Barney
24 Sep 2024  #1041

@Miloslaw
Do you mention the IRA everytime an Irish person posts?

If you want to rant about the 'RA go to an Irish forum.

@Alien
Last time the expansionist Israeli state occupied Lebanon they ended up with Hizbollah, it never ends well.

Novichok
24 Sep 2024  #1042

it never ends well.

It ended well in Germany and Japan.

All you need to do is to kill enough of them to make the message "DO NOT FVCK WITH US EVER AGAIN!" credible.

See how simple life can be?

I like simple.

Alien
25 Sep 2024  #1043

it never ends well

However, they have a great military advantage.

Bratwurst Boy
25 Sep 2024  #1044

Lebanon is a good example what happens when muslims take over!

A flourishing, quite modern country....as it was still christian....then the Palis came, and with them the fanatics and terrrorists....now it is a destroyed cesspit!

....Fighting between Lebanese Christian militias and Palestinian insurgents (mainly from the Palestine Liberation Organization) began in 1975 and generated an alliance between the Palestinians and Lebanese Muslims, pan-Arabists, and leftists.[10] The conflict deepened as foreign powers, namely Syria, Israel, and Iran, became involved and supported or fought alongside different factions.....

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanese_Civil_War

I guess the Christians who want their old well functioning Lebanon back will hope for an israeli invasion....ending the pali chokehold on the country!


  • Lebanonthenandnow.jpg

Bobko
25 Sep 2024  #1045

Lebanon is a good example what happens when muslims take over!

Since when are you a great defender of Christians?

I thought you were longing for a return to pagan times?

Also, you know that what accounts for the biggest difference in your photos is the fact that a huge fertilizer silo exploded - right?

Bratwurst Boy
25 Sep 2024  #1046

I thought you were longing for a return to pagan times?

...hmmm.....I have to think about that!

Also, you know

That doesn't make much of a difference....the GDR was a big supporter of the PLO....Honecker and Arafat were buddies....I grew up with the myth of the brave Pali guerilla resister....it was quite a shock to learn later what they truly did to a modern, rich, comfortable country western style!

AntV
25 Sep 2024  #1047

I thought you were longing for a return to pagan times?

Don't be fooled, BB is much like you: a Christian in denial. :)

Bratwurst Boy
25 Sep 2024  #1048

noooooo.......ANTI....you promised!!!!!

AntV
25 Sep 2024  #1049

Yes, I did!!!!! Ergo, it's only a matter of time before you confess your allegiance to the King of kings and the Lord of lords.

By the way, you can still wear your helmet after said confession.

Bratwurst Boy
25 Sep 2024  #1050

....it gets harder and harder to resist! :)


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