Why AfD is the most important party in Germany

Whether it's y'all, my lot or us together, we all deserve better.


The apearance of both our nations will change. May people of good will strive to make those changes harmonious.

Agreed....but slowly is better IMHO. People who want to much change to quickly are not helping. Leave it to the next generation, it's their world!

Yes. As Tony Blair (a far better man than many think him to be) said, "education, education, education".

And as far as university education goes he was wrong about that too.
Degrees are practically worthless now and graduates are saddled with debt.
There was very little good that he ever did.
Peace in Ireland was his only positive.

There are degrees and there are degrees; mine have served me well.

Maybe,but I suspect you are not a student of the post Blair period.

@jon357

You talk about harmony. But how? So many people here are deeply unhappy and worried.

What would be your idea to bring harmony between east and west germany? Also what compromise you would offer to bring back unity in politics?

Nothing you have ever suggested you favour.


Long before, and very glad they paid me rather than the other way round.

I asked you, not what i suggested.

And falling behind on all fronts does not feel good. When people only get bad news, they start to get nervous and unhappy.

What should Merkel do to get positive effects for Germany?

You're the one who started a thread promoting a political ideology.


Who ever said it was meant to. Things don't always go the way you want them to.

Then you obviously dont understand how humans act and function.

Its a simple psychological fact that people who get desperste do more extreme things to make things better.

Believe it or not, but a political system that constantly loses, will be blown away.

Germany has biggest population in europe.

Since 2015 Merkel knows only losing.

The last thing I should care about are the invading hordes. That's the logic. As it happens, and to my complete surprise, it's the first. That image of the non-white human garbage attacking our borders is what I wake up to every f**king morning. So, I wouldn't be surprised if Germans felt the same and be more agitated about this single issue than any other.

In the past, people used to care about their tribe, culture, language, and a sense of belonging. Today, thanks to the cabal of the globalists like that pos, Soros, expressing such sentiments is hate speech.

Doing 'extreme things' is all the more reason not to pander to such individuals.


And?

Next you'll say it has a destiny to rule :-D

It is the duty for a government to make good decissions for its people. Merkel somehow is incapable to do so. She appears like a living fossil that cant solve the problems that exist now. Infact she has become mostly invisible. It all feels like lead pushs the country down.

It's too late now to change things. The mistake was already made in 1990, and trying to force East Germans into the West German system simply hasn't worked.

It would have made much more sense for East Germany to join West Germany as a single unit with a single parliament, rather than as five new Bundeslander. East Berlin would have joined West Berlin as it is today, but otherwise, it would have been a single federal entity responsible for the reconstruction and redevelopment of East Germany. I'd have also left the Treuhand in East German control, and made it clear to the new East German regional parliament that they were responsible for their own decisions, with money being given to the parliament to allocate.

Stripping autonomy and self-governance away from East Germany as a collective and giving power to individual Bundeslander was a horrible idea. People weren't ready for it, nor did these new Bundeslander have any idea what to do with their autonomy. Perhaps it worked in Saxony, but not in the others.

Delph,

As with North and South Korea, Germany belonged together! There I disagree with you. The Wall was as artificial as all the rhetoric which sought to divide a people from itself. Pieck, Ulbricht and all the rest of the Cold Warriors misjudged the ultimate resolve their citizens to strive to live in freedom as surely as Gim Il Sung did his.

It was naïve jingoism that got both countries into this mess.

And who decides what is a good or bad decision? A minor party? You?


She's certainnly proven herself capable of making good enough decisions to suit the majority who repeatedly re-elcted her.

Totally disagree. The only ones who are still having trouble to adjust are the ones who grew up under the SED regime and can still remember. Most folks who were born after the Wall came down don't lose too much sleep over the perceived Ossi/ Wessi divide. They are simply Germans. The reasons for the higher percentage of right-wingers in East Germany compared to the west are historic. Their whole society moved from one dictatorship to the next after the war.

Your words are wrong. As East German you get treated bad in the West. They notice from the way you speak in the dialect and start making jokes. I´m young (24) and when my comrades and i joined a seminar in West germany, some Wessis in our own age group started to make jokes. In the end they paid for that, since i smiled but behind them reported evrything to their superiors, which forced them to an apology and penalty.

Another thing is lower income in east germany and almost no east german leading figures. There is not a single east german university leader. Not a single east egrman CEO. 70% of our soldiers are east german, but not a single east german general.

The people dont take this **** anymore. They send us a new police chief from west germany who was sytematicly pushed out of office here. His orders were ignored and the station brought to the point its performance felt to the lowest rank.

He tried to win hearts ith bringing cake and all that **** but was systematicly pushed out and we now have a women from east Germany as leader who is respected and our station performs under the top 3 in the local group. Which makes our former boss appear even more pathetic

I think a new way of thinking must be established. I realized most west germans are usually weak and bend when you act dominant. They get raised as weak beta males.

Im an apprentice and when my wessi boss was talking about me with my superior i send him an email and demanded a meeting with him now.

He was extremly nervous and next day was sick for the next week. They dont stand confrontation. Wessis exist to serve. And so far i have only good results by simply act unfriendly and harsh with them.

The difference between the old-style dictatorships and the new, softer dictatorships of the corrupt globalist ruling elites as practiced in the "democratic" West is that we, way back, knew that we were the slaves and they were the masters. The modern naive idiots still believe that they run their counties and that their votes really count.

Too harsh? Then, tell me the difference between CNN or BBC and Pravda, other than that Pravda was on a higher moral ground because they were forced to lie. CNN does it voluntarily.

@jon357

Merkel is a fossil of the past. She was good until 2014 but more and more loses her ability to influence things. Her methods dont work anymore and the result can be seen

We have no functional government. Infrastructure rots away.

She felt out of time.

German problem is that no limit for chancellorship exists.

Most chancellors after their 2nd term start to get erratic

She's in office and her likely successor is from the same party.

You still haven't said who you think decides what a good decision is...

Her sucessor distances herself from Merkel and cut her out of campaings. Merkel systematicly is pushed aside.

Well all of Merkels recent decissions ended in failures.

Her energy politics give Germany the highest energy price in Europe. The economy starts to crack and is on the brink of a recession.

Her foreign politics are a failure as well. Germany broke with USA.

We are isolated in Europe in most decissions. France calls our foreign politics erratic and not trust worthy anymore.

Merkels biggest miscalculation was that she believed she can get Europe to take migrants from Germany. When she was unable to achieve this, Germany was overwhelmed to what happened and struck with 1.5 million migrants. This marks the beginning of Merkels star sinking.

Her mantra was, that borders must stay open and that she will be able to make a deal so other euroepan countries take migrants from us, to share the burden.

This did not work, she was unable to get that deal.

This gave the AfD the kickstart, divided the nation and brings us financial at the limit.

You might agree in this one point, that the fact that Germany took more migrants than all of EU combined
does not work and that Merkels failure to gain support for Germany is a bad thing.

This only confirms my claim about the soft dictatorships the Western idiots are so proud of. Either that or the Germans loved what she did. There is no other explanation.

The system here makes it impossible to get Merkel away. The party system is made in a way that it is almost impossible to get her out. You have to bend the system so much till this happenes.

In the east German states it actually happenes. The AfD reached a point that some predict all other parties would need to form a coalition against the AfD.

Also keep in mind, that Merkel only gets 28%.

That would be her successor within the same party. The party led by Angela and re-elected repeatedly.

You still haven't said who you think decides what a good decision is...

My cat knows that inviting foreign human garbage is never good for the natives. Ever.

@jon357

I dont know? Was Captain Smiths decission to speed with the Titanic through an ice field a good or bad decission?

When you as a chancellor decide to shut down nuclear power and coal and the effect is highest energy cost for german citizens and an instable net, is this good or bad?

I think the very fact that Merkel got the worst results of the CDU since 1949 speaks for itself.

Many CDU politicians lost their seats in parliament. Thanks to Merkels glorious decissions. Also her glorious decissions bring us recession, and stagnation.

She's still in office, and has been re-elected how many times?

Jon the problem is, we will never agree. You hate me, i´m indifferent to you. What matters for me is to destroy what has value for you. By treating migrants as ****, voting far right and give a **** about your way of thinking, people like me are quite sucessful in doing so.

Things like this make me happy



And im even more happy to know, that people like me are responsible for their suffering

I know no mercy or any positive feelings towards non europeans.

The more they suffer at the border, the better, since it shows they escape back to the ********* they came from.