Why AfD is the most important party in Germany

Yes, a certain fun with "hunting" is probably part of the reason why people search for such a job. Who is to be "hunted" is decided by the government though....

A cryptic statement, B.B.

No, I was objecting to the word "inclusion". Native Americans have never been included, same with blacks. Catholics were despised at some point in time, and so were Polish, Italians and Irish. The locals didn't like Chinese either and slaughtered them. Japanese Americans ended up in internment camps. Jewish refugees from Europe were turned away in their thousands during WW2. Now Latinos and Hispanics are getting the short end of the stick. There has never been any real, immediate inclusion. It always took a few generations and it only worked if you were white and Christian. Let's face it: a large percentage of Americans are not open minded. They are effing racists and xenophobes.


Their culture was completely destroyed by the Brits and later by the Aussies. Much like that of the Native Americans over here. They separate themselves from the white society for good reasons and usually don't want anything to do with us. Unfortunately, alcoholism is widespread amongst them. Again, just like the Native Americans.


When children of first generation immigrants are starting to look down on new immigrants, then you'll have to question the system.

Hey, easy. I don't mind "racist" because everybody is a racist. Actually, blacks are more racist than any racial group judging by all those "black" this and "black" that organizations and events.

On the other hand, name anything "white", other than, maybe, white lie, and the whole hell breaks loose.
As for "xenophobes", this term has to be revised to "xenogohomes" as nobody is really afraid of them. Just as nobody is really afraid of rats and spiders. We just don't want them where we live.

I said "a large percentage of Americans". That includes Native Americans, blacks, Asians and whites.


Not true. Many are, but certainly not everybody.


That's what people said about Polish immigrants like you not that long ago...

...and I agree with them. That is why we moved away from the "Polish Triangle" in Chicago to Downers Grove. You can see on Google maps how far that was.

Native Americans were and still aren't allowed to vote, so sadly, you are right.

By "melting pot", I was referring to so-called more 'recent' arrivals to the US via Ellis Island:-)
Apologies for not having been more specific.

They are not allowed to vote in what elections? Their own nations'?
You are too cryptic...

Don't get cute, Rich!

Fact is the Native Americans remain the single most discriminated ethnic group within the United States, only precious few having had the opportunity to distinguish themselves in American life, the majority of whom were half-breeds such as Pres. Wilson's Veep Charles Curtis, Jim Thorpe, Maria Tallchief, the ballerina, Sean Quick To See Smith, the poetess and only a handful of others (excluding the numerous unsung Iroquois construction worker who helped build Manhattan's skyscrapers).

Moving away doesn't change the fact that you are an immigrant. An immigrant complaining about other immigrants, to be exact. Which in itself is rather strange. Why did you come to the US in the first place if you don't like your own kind?

That's not how group-building works...

Yes, they are allowed to vote.

True times two.


Do you like other drivers on the road? Do you like long lines at Disney World? Why should I like other immigrants?


Who is my "own kind"? Except for my family, I don't like anybody. I barely tolerate them and only because I can't grow my own food and make my own TV sets.

I didn't say you have to like them, but as an immigrant you are simply in no position to complain about the fact that other people are immigrating to the USA as well. Be happy that the country welcomed you.


Other immigrants.

I am not an immigrant. I am an American who had the bad luck of being born in a German prison and lived in a disgusting communist prison called Poland. Until my escape in 1966, I was a slave making 15 bucks a month. I hated my Polish plantation owners so much that I did my very best to forget their language and customs. Today, Poland means as much to me as any other country on the map. So, don't ever compare me to "immigrants" who live in their Polish ghettos and spend every waking moment dreaming about going back.

@Rich,

This then is a relatively recent phenomenon, because not until the latter part of the last century, did most have any possibility of life
off the reservation.

Those, as I'd mentioned before, with exceptional talent, could escape, but such was rare indeed.
The myths and prejudices about them persist to this day. Guess that's why the film "Billy Jack" was made back in the '70's.,
along with various novels and other books about Native American lore, by among others, M. Scott Momaday etc.

I didn't know that to be a plumber or HVAC tech requires "exceptional talent".
I read somewhere that you have to be sober, though.

The names of great Native Americans I mentioned several posts ago didn't include any of those professions you speak of:-)
To be a skilled plumber does indeed require exceptional talent. Tremendous achievement is something else again.

Next time my toilet gets plugged up, I will ask him how he managed to be so blessed with his God-given exceptional talent.

You do that, and if by some miracle you could do the same job as he....by all means go for it, dude!
Furthermore, when was the last time you had a Native American plumber, carpenter or electrician?
Something to consider.

There are moments when I really worry about you. This is one of such moments: You are making MY point!.
The answer is, never, because they are drunk at their reservations, waiting for the next benefit check from me.
But I had many such guys from Somalia, Nigeria, and Mexico. And never a US-born black guy. Weird, isn't it?
No, I never called for help and said: I need help but don't send me a Native American, so don't try this route.

If the construction boss' back round about the time the Empire State Bldg. was erected, took your attitude, we might not have a Manhattan Skyline as you know it! Why, you might ask?

'Cuz, clueless, the reason the Iroquois were chosen in the first place, was because in comparison with the Caucasian majority,
Native American men apparently could not suffer from vertigo....EVER! Since they never fell victim to dizziness or fear of heights,
they proved ideal for high-beam projects to walk on girders and being able to look up, down, sideways without succumbing:-)

I think we should stop this pointless conversation before the mods get seriously pissed off. So, I am done.

Fair enough, so long as you acknowledge it to be the truth:-)

New from today:

54 % of Germans are against migrants, tendency raising from 44% 2 years ago

welt.de/politik/deutschland/article192427319/Rechtspopulismus-Jeder-zweite-Deutsche-negativ-gegen-Asylsuchende-eingestellt.html

The study says, that far right ideology gets a hold in the german population.

Still means that almost half are happy with migrants, that is quite a significant number of people.

Considering Germany's history, I'm not surprised, Weimarer, and you shouldn't be either!

I am happy that we have a garbage dump. It doesn't mean I want to have one near me.

@Lyzko

True, Germany fought oriental invasions several times and our history proves how you must deal with them.

Hmm, not exactly the lesson I'd have drawn, but certainly an instructive answer:-)
Tells us a lot about what younger Germans are thinking, hearing from the opinion of the
real common man!