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Why AfD is the most important party in Germany
Weimarer
25 Apr 2019 #812
@Lyzko
What lesson have you drawn? That you can let in the scum of the world, ruin your welfare system and become a 3rd world ******** yourself?
Lyzko
25 Apr 2019 #813
Tolerance combined with well-thought out, above all, pragmatism, is the lesson here!
Third World?? No one but the Germans brought that on but themselves.
For centuries even prior to the Post-War Era, ethnic, native-born Germans did the hard labor and routine manual jobs/trades which today are filled
by foreigners. Something's gotta give, and the first place to start is the mentality of many younger Germans such as yourself:-)
Rethinking also means retooling as well as retrenching.
Rich Mazur
25 Apr 2019 #814
Germans did the hard labor and routine manual jobs/trades which today are filled by foreigners.
What kind of jobs?
Lyzko
25 Apr 2019 #815
Come on, Rich! Read much??! Everything from carpenters, electricians, to bleedin' fruit peddlers, news stand owners, sanitation workers etc.
The Germans I know still feel, "Germans construct cars, manage factories and do white-collar work. Non-whites do the other stuff!"
As I say, this mentality, in Germany as well in other highly industrialized nations, will simply have to change.
Rich Mazur
25 Apr 2019 #816
Everything from carpenters, electricians, to bleedin' fruit peddlers, news stand owners, sanitation workers etc.
I got it and I thank you for the lesson. I just didn't know that Germans would under no circumstances want to be carpenters or electricians and that their sewer plants would stop working and overflow.
How did they manage before the invasion?
Lyzko
25 Apr 2019 #817
A German home owner for instance, would think himself rather foolish nowadays hiring a local German, when a Pole or Russian
could do the job more cheaply!
Even the storied "deutsche Qualitaet" seems to have hit a brick wall. Everything apparently has its price:-)
Rich Mazur
26 Apr 2019 #818
A German would be foolish hiring a local German, when a Pole or Russian could do the job more cheaply!
But, that same German would be seriously pissed if he was fired and replaced by a cheaper Pole or Russian. Would that correct?
So, before looking for cheaper foreigners, that German homeowner and you are advised to learn what "social contract" means and why, under that contract, the state has the power to keep cheaper foreigners away even if it means that the freedom to hire cheap foreigners is taken away.
My question to myself is: Hey, Rich, why are you wasting your time explaining this s***? They will ignore it anyway, so what's the point?
TheOther
26 Apr 2019 #819
I am not an immigrant. I am an American
You are an immigrant who was granted American citizenship, so stop complaining about other immigrants who became Americans just like you did. Be honest: it's not about Latinos or Hispanics, it's about skin color. Why did you come to the US in the first place when you knew that a large percentage of the population is not white?
Rich Mazur
26 Apr 2019 #820
it's about skin color.
It's not about skin color. I often go to Florida to get darker. It's about their crime statistics. When 3% commit 50% of crimes, it catches your attention, doesn't it?
You are an immigrant who was granted American citizenship, so stop complaining about other immigrants
99% of other immigrants are inferior to me, so I have no reason to want more of them. Specifically, immigrants from Poland are viewed as dumb drunks, thieves and, at best, as janitors. Tell me why I would want them near me and why I would want to admit that I am one of them? Have any ideas?
Why did you come to the US in the first place when you knew that a large percentage of the population is not white?
I came to the US in 1967. I started the process in 1959. Things were different then. "Large percentage" was 12% or so, and not large enough to change my plans.
Did I answer your questions to your satisfaction?
Bratwurst Boy
26 Apr 2019 #821
Still means that almost half are happy with migrants, that is quite a significant number of people.
I don't trust this study at all...the answers doesn't add up. This comes from the infamous Friedrich-Ebert-Stiftung which is very far left and anything but neutral. You can imagine how much the wording of a question influences the answer...and here was alot of "framing" going on.
For these people only to acknowledge the loss of control in 2015 is enough to make you a "far rightist extremist"!
There are already very loud demands that this "Stiftung" publishes the exact questions...
Weimarer
26 Apr 2019 #822
Lots of bullshit said here.
First what is Germany? In eastern Germany ypu have german electricians, plumbers ect. Nobody here would allow a foreigners in your house to repair stuff.
2. Tolerance is bad and weakness. The word tolerance itself means that something bothers you but you are too weak to get rid of it. If i have a mosquito in my room and want sleep, i stand up and splash it. I only tolerate it, when im deadly sick amd too weak to stand up.
Tolerance is the last virtue of a dieing man.
Rich Mazur
26 Apr 2019 #823
Well stated. I will remember this line next time some noodle here talks that tolerance sh**.
The word tolerance itself means that something bothers you but you are too weak to get rid of it.
Tolerance was the first step. Then, came acceptance. After acceptance came admiration. I am talking about gays. I see the same crap happening with migrants and refugees. The last stage - we can't live without them.
Lyzko
26 Apr 2019 #824
Weimarer, I'll take that dying man's tolerance any day of the week, month or year, over your version of living death!!
Moreover, fact is that German workers are constantly undercut or underbid by Poles, Russians, the stray Israeli, brave enough to even make if over to Germany and start a life abroad.
Without tolerance, there can be no humanity. Without humanity, might as well pack it all in, move out of our homes, and rent or buy a cage at the zoo next to all the other animals.
Weimarer
26 Apr 2019 #825
We thank our very existance to the lack of tolerance.
If Theoderic had been tolerant, there would be no Germans. He did not tolerate huns, he crushed their skulls.
If Leonidas would have been tolerant, there would be no Europe. He did not tolerate persian orientals but smashed their skulls.
If Charles Martel would have been tolerant with the arabs, there would be no France. He smashed arabs skulls to free France.
If Isabella la catholica would have been tolerant, there would be no spain, just one more oriental ********.
We Europeans are the greatest people on this planet. Standing as shining light above all the vile scum.
Europe, the only place where culture, art and science roam free. Where decissions are made from reason.
Our women can walk free and vote and work. We send spaceships to comets and as far as Saturns moon Titan.
All this was made possible by people like Theoderic, the german king, who smashed the mongolian huns. King leonidas of Sparta who stopped the persians long enough that other Greek states could defend themself. Charles Martel, who smashed the arabs ou of France and Isabella, who led the reconquista to take back Spain.
With your so called tolerance, we would be another afghanistan, algeria or any other non-european ********.
Take your tolerance and shove it where no light shines.
The good thing is, that when things get serious, people like you can easily be shoved aside.
People like you hide like rats in the catacombs at Vienna, while brave German and Polish soldiers smashed the turks into slimy goo.
Rich Mazur
26 Apr 2019 #826
Without tolerance, there can be no humanity.
Way back, when an unmarried girl had a baby, she was immediately known as the village slut and shunned. Then, the villagers were told by people like you to be tolerant. Today, in that village, 70% of the babies have no clue who their fathers - sorry, I mean the sperm donors - are.
Weimarer
26 Apr 2019 #827
People like Lyzko are weak old man. Impotent and thats why they are tolerant.
Lyzko
26 Apr 2019 #829
Weimarer clearly doesn't understand the meaning of life and talks like an unrepenetant Nazi!
@Rich,
I'd hope we've come a lot farther than your example of people "shunning" others because of personal problems they have!
The whole point of leading a good life means, when necessary, moving TOWARDS, instead of away, from those who need , above all, are seeking, help:-)
Are we really returning to the unenlightened hell of a Puritan society of small-town bigotry as in Shirley Jackson's 'The Lottery', where the stronger
majority of unthinking rabble stone to death the weaker, more vulnerable??!
Among many things, you, and Weimarer and a bunch of other guys here on PF, seem profoundly anti-woman.
Then again, you merely mirror our Tweeter-in-Chief:-)
Rich Mazur
26 Apr 2019 #830
Weimarer clearly doesn't understand the meaning of life and talks like an unrepentant Nazi!
Lyzko, it's not working. If he is "an unrepentant Nazi", all of a sudden, I like unrepentant Nazis. Holy sh**, and I am from Poland, no less! How did this happen!
If I could, I would have a beer with him before anyone else here. I must be f***ing hallucinating.
where the stronger majority of unthinking rabble stone to death the weaker
I know this debating technique: can't defend a position, move quickly to the other and, typically, extreme end. There is a middle somewhere between showering useless foreign garbage with money and showering them with stones. He and I are opposed to both and you know it. What we want is the borders with "turn around and go back to the ******** you came from" signs. Also: "We will run our factories and farms just fine by ourselves as we did for the last 10,000 years".
you, and Weimarer and a bunch of other guys here on PF, seem profoundly anti-woman.
I don't want another violation, so, if you start "Women are Idiots" thread I will explain why.
Weimarer
26 Apr 2019 #831
@Lyzko
Im not a Nazi. The NAzis worked together with Muslims.
I support Israel and think they know how to deal with the arabs.
Beside that i hate socialism.
Rich Mazur
26 Apr 2019 #832
Im not a Nazi. The NAzis worked together with Muslims.
This is what happens when "Nazi" is overused. By calling you that way, he accomplished the opposite - he made Nazis look a lot better. That is why I get really seriously mad when the apologists say Christians and Muslims in the same sentence to make them morally equivalent.
Bratwurst Boy
26 Apr 2019 #833
@Weimarer
Proof! That survey was a sham!
welt.de/kultur/medien/article192504347/Mitte-Studie-Deshalb-kuerzte-das-ZDF-Klebers-Interview-zu-Rechtspopulismus.html
They have cut now even ZDF Icon Cleber for asking critical questions about it....
I have long stopped believing anything coming out of the Friedrich-Ebert-Stiftung!
Rich Mazur
27 Apr 2019 #834
We thank our very existence to the lack of tolerance.
That post of yours is a game ender. Perfect. That is exactly how I feel. Including the part about the superiority of the white race. My point is that nothing is perfectly equal, so one race has to be better than any other. The deniers never name a race that is superior to the white Europeans because they know this would be "racist", too.
So, the best I get is that all races are equal - a statistical and practical impossibility.
Weimarer
27 Apr 2019 #835
Of course we are the best.
We build evrything that humanity is today.
While tehy build hutts from their own **** and mud, we build the Saturn V and fly to the moon.
There are only 3 people i see as same stage we Europeans are. Chinese, Japanese, Koreans.
And they struggle with the same problem we do. The chinese emperors were fully aware that only savages exist around them.
One only has to read how the chinese reacted when a delegation from the roman empire arrived.
The Han-emperor said Rome is equal to China. Like Ying and Yang and how good it feels to know, they are not alone in a world filled with filthy savages.
Look at Japan. Before Emperor Meiji, it was a isolated and medival society. Then contact with Europeans and the Japanese showed what they can. Within 20 years they transformed their medival society into industrialized power that even managed to let us Europeans run for our money.
And Africa? Was a ******** 1000 years ago. Was a ******** 100 years ago and will be a ******** in 100 years.
Rich Mazur
27 Apr 2019 #836
Tolerance is a virtue when dealing with deviations from the normal within the tribe.
Tolerance is treason when aiding external aggression - with guns or without.
This is precisely what the Euro and the US rulers are doing, and the useful idiots here gleefully excuse.
Lyzko
27 Apr 2019 #837
@Weimarer,
Hitler only "worked together" with the Grand Mufti because the latter hated the Jews nearly as much as Hitler himself!
Learn your history!!
Weimarer
27 Apr 2019 #838
Out of my eyes, weakling.
Go and hide in the catacombs below Vienna, while real man smash the Ottomans
Weaklings like you would have let the turks in and celebrate the cultural enrichtment.
You have no clue how much you disgust me. You actually make me sick.
There is nothing more disgusting as weak beta males.
Rich Mazur
27 Apr 2019 #839
Yes, there is. Weak beta males who tell you that you are not sensitive enough. Later, they will happily draft you and send you to the front lines.
Tacitus
27 Apr 2019 #840
Go and hide in the catacombs below Vienna, while real man smash the Ottomans
I guess that is how you want to see yourself. But someone like is more likely to have been guarding the selection gate at Ausschwitz than Vienna.