Why AfD is the most important party in Germany

I understand you're concerns but it's always the stronger who survive :)

The second he talks about conquering ancestral homelands, they'll take his head off! Remember that there are plenty of people still afraid that Germany will want to take back those lands...


You can't, and shouldn't. I don't remember where it was now, but I've read a very intelligent commentary by some African academic who pointed at how corrupt African dictators use the "blame the Europeans" for their excesses, and use it to maintain support.

Then again, I'm a strong supporter of cutting off aid and replacing it with education. The current fashionable trend of "pay 3000 quid to work with orphans in Africa for a week' is despicable and worthless, IMO.

So what? I am talking about Nigeria now. How about China and Japan? Are they racists because they don't want migrants and tolerate only those few they need for their own selfish reasons?

100% with you on this one Delph.

Migrants are merely the handmaiden of society concerned with preserving the top tier and to hell with the bottom.

Whose bottom? At home or in some foreign s***hole?

I totally agree...

The current method of feeding an overblown international aid industry is not helping or Africa wouldn't look like it does today. The billions dumped and lost in this swamp are mind boggling...

Makes perfect sense to me too.

If it were private investors, no problem. It's the ruling elites taking money from me by force and sending it to all kinds of sh**holes to feel good and pat each other on the back while sipping wine few can afford. It goes under the banner of "we have to do something".

Germany, the US, and other EU countries are the victims of these self-loving, feel-good, virtue-signalling morons.

And nobody dares to put a stop to it out of fear to look heartless. Just keeping on to throw the money out of the window is way easier than to admit that its a failure.

Im against aid at all. @Bratwurst Boy

And i m7ght add, the AfD wants put an end to this.

NGO are a cancer 7n general. Zero legitination but want decide for entire nations.

NGO's funded by foreigners should be treated as subversive organizations and prosecuted as such. The same with Catholic Churches harboring illegal scum.
BTW, I wonder how many percent are women? And I don't mean as the heads. Just working there.

The catholic church is rotten to the core.

The funny thing is, that the leftist liberal pope they installed in Rome faces extreme oppossition in Italy. Something unheared ever before. Over night appear anti pope posters all over rome.

It's like so many founding fathers which is odd! I thought a father supposed to live Cpl 100 years according to old law?

Weimarer is partially correct in his criticism of the Church. As a former East German of Lutheran background, it's hardly surprising that he'd harbor resentment against the Catholic hierarchy. Furthermore, the East German government fomented intense hatred towards any orgnanized religion, including the Jewish, not for racial, instead, on purely ideological grounds. Belief in G-d was deemed unnecessary, raising an entire "lost generation" of atheist know-nothings with no sense of spirituality, like Weimarer, left to their own primitive animal devices, without faith, love, or empathy.

Be aware though, that it was followers of the Catholic 'White Rose' founded by Hans and Sophie Scholl from Munich, along with others such as Father Alfred Delp and his followers which offered the strongest resistance to Hitler of the entire Second World War!

:-)

I disagree!

It wasn't so much hatred but an enormous indifference which grew during the time of the GDR. Most people can't care less about the whole institution, be it christian, jewish or muslim. That's not hate...more a "YAAAAAWN".

And abit amusement that modern, educated people still cling to these fairytales...:)

Is that the tolerant believer in you speaking? LOL!

The attempts of the SED regime to discredit religion are well documented by historians, and this indifference is a direct result of those attempts.

I can only tell from my experiences...I remember indoctrination about alot of things, mainly everything about socialism...marxism-leninism...and anti-fascism etc., but not about religions...such an education just didn't happen, neither for the good nor for the bad, it just didn't happen. I can't recall one instance of being teached hate against the church in my whole POS time....

As I grew older I learned of course that a few brave ones declined the Jugendweihe and preferred confirmation...or that being active in the church lessened the chances to be allowed to study at the university and to get other good jobs (seemingly not Merkel though)...but I remember that mostly from hear say only.

That was the DDR 'replacement' for confirmation, wasn't it?

Yup!

Oh I forgot....in my Kindergarten the kids had a Yule fest instead of Weihnachten....

I would stand by my perception that in the GDR education all things institutional religion was just being removed...not actively mentioned or spread hate agains. It just wasn't part of the daily lives. And it seems many didn't miss it...you can't miss something you have never known.

Well, perhaps you really did experience it like this, but the historical evidence is pretty clear regarding this.

Personal memories are very unreliable (which is something any police officer can tell you) which is why historians usually prefer written evidence.

In one of my books about East Germany, there's mention of how the Stasi planned to 'deal' with a Lutheran pastor in East Berlin. Instead of just arresting him or similar, they let one of the various Arab countries (Iraq, I think?) know that he'd been insulting Islam and so on. It turned out that a guy from the embassy went to visit him to find out if it was true, only to realise that the guy had no issue at all with Islam and that it had been an obvious and crude lie. Yet - they admitted that had it been true, he would have been killed without question.

I suppose in the later years of the DDR, there was no need for the SED to act strongly against religion because the job was already done. Of course, the crude irony is that the Communist doctrine was as strong as any religion there!

Possible...


But it can't have been so bad because...you know....Merkel...she is rather a proof that the church and its members weren't really that discriminated against! She was allowed to go to university and have a career...her religious upbringing in a christian household and all her ties to the church not withstanding.

Other kids did have it much more difficult, especially with dissidents in the family or worse, Republikflüchtlinge!

It seems the party and the Stasi did set priorities and the church wasn't on top....


Also quite possible....


Absolutely! It has become a true religion...with a holy book, a messias (or two) and Blasphemia against it was as punishable...

@TheOther,

"I know there are some of us out there who do not love their fellow human beings and I hate people like that!"

- Tom Lehrer - (once popular piano-tinkling comic before Mark Russell took over that role)
LOL

@B.B.

You may gladly and freely disagree with the truth, however, I'm certain that if you ever quizzed Walther Ulbricht about that, he'd be in my court:-)

That new vid of Rammstein has been banned from what I heard. Welcome to 1984.

What???

And you are the lone holder of the sacred truth, arent you! :)


Astounding...I read the german lefties are all over it....they frown upon the provocative advertising but are otherwise totally happy with the message.

It's a very clever video. It's worth watching it properly, because most of the outrage seems to have missed the point completely. It also fairly criticises both left and right, though my favourite bit is the mockery of the DDR.

....maybe I really should take a look....

I recommend it, you'll definitely understand what they're trying to get at. The song itself is actually quite weak by Rammstein standards, but the point is clearly made.