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Why AfD is the most important party in Germany



Weimarer
30 Mar 2019  #241

Its amusing to read this bullshit.

Lyzko obviously still has not understood, that i was born years after reunion and spend not a single day in the GDR.

One of the few things the Eastern German regime did good, was destroying religion.

There is no hate and hate was never used against it. What was used is "education". Religious people are sheep and follow fairy tales.

When i see the church, i dont hate, i must laugh. All this stuff appears so much like comedy for me and all people i know. Its laughable to the core.

The eastern German governments lasting thing is, that the church was made a joke and thats irreversable. Once its made laughable it cant recover.

Today Eastern Germany is teh most atheist place on this planet. In polls they could not find a single young person who believes in god.

theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2012/sep/22/atheism-east-germany-godless-place

Indeed, the survey was unable to find a single person under the age of 28 in eastern Germany who believed in God.

And then we have Lyzko here, calling us "animals, without empathy and love..." while his "holy father" has to organize anti rape congress in Vatican just 2 weeks ago.

His pathetic faith killed millions of people. The church comitted unspeakable crimes in South America.

This is the perfect example.

Lyskos boss, the pople denies the africans to use condoms. The church is part of the problem. Its perverted believe system created overpopulation in Africa.

And he blames us for being without Empathy because we want save our life and future.

All while his rottenr eligion is absolute responsible for teh ways africa is run.

And the best thing...while millions starve there. The church build a mega cathedral there. Thats what helps the people...a worthless piece of garbage

Thats what we call "preaching wine and drinking water".

I have an advice for you. Before telling me that i have to house africns, tell your pope to scratch the gold from his seat to feat the africans where they are

delphiandomine
30 Mar 2019  #242

Religious people are sheep and follow fairy tales.

And then you get AfD supporters who repeat what the Party tells them without even using a minimal amount of critical thinking, such as the claim that the AfD will win majorities in some Landtag elections.

Very religious to me, just like Communism and Christianity.

Weimarer
30 Mar 2019  #243

Delphi, thats your problem. You lack the ability of critical thinking.

I dont follow what the AfD party is telling me. Infact i dont even know what they tell. I´m not interested in their program. I use them as weapon against our corrupt system.

The decisions of our monoparty pseudo democracy disgust me. The instability chaos and social damage Merkel and her goons caused disgust me.

What i see is that Merkel and her goons fear the AfD. I see that the higher votes the AfD gets, the more breaks apart our encrusted system. Fat slimy politicians who sit their ass flat since decades, lose their job.

The AfD is the tool to damage and destroy what the Merkelists hold dear. That's why i support the AfD.

In short, i have my own agenda and use the AfD to push for that.

Its called strategic voting. I stand above such things.

Only petty small people like you believe in religious or ideological dogmas.

There is absolute no need for majorities. What we see in eastern Germany already is that the AfD makes forming governments almost impossible. In my state all other party must form a coalition, which destroys the democratic systems.

We put a fuse in the system and ignited it. I see it as incredible exciting to see the chaos spread and the old, fat system developing more and more cracks.

The positive side effect is, that Thrusday the EU pulled back all ships from the Mediterranean.

What happened to "Its our duty to save al those africans"?

I tell you what....the elitist system parties are in shock and fear. They believe if they cater the far right, they might wi back control.

Sad thing is, it doesnt work. :) The more concessions they make, the more vote the people even more far right.

Lyzko
31 Mar 2019  #244

How can one person who's so Right, be so wrong?:-)

One of the mysteries of lifeLOL

Weimarer
31 Mar 2019  #245

I respect that you admitt to be wrong in evrything. Unable to counter anything.

Go preach to your pope who currently holds anti rape congress in Vatican, has to pay hundredthousands of rape victims and preachs for the poor from his golden throne.

Your church is too pathetic, immoral and weak for me.

And so is your false god.

Rich Mazur
31 Mar 2019  #246

I respect that you admit to be wrong in everything. Unable to counter anything.

I am sure, as soon as he is less busy, he will copy your text in its entirety and just highlight those parts where you are wrong.

Weimarer
31 Mar 2019  #247

Yeah i would really like to see where i´m wrong?

Btw the catholic bishop Tebartz from Elzt here in Germany did fly to the slums of Kalkutta...he did fly 1st class Lufthansa.

And he used 42 million € to build his new bishop house. With a free standing bathtub and evry luxury imaginable.

His nickname has become "Bishop of bling".

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He loves fast cars and oldtimers...

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And those immoral freaks who live in a palace, fly 1st class to the slum and buy oldtimers want tell others to do more for migrants and refugees?

This is bizarre.

Rich Mazur
31 Mar 2019  #248

That and the fact that nobody ever met an amputee whose missing arms were restored by a miracle.

Lyzko
31 Mar 2019  #249

It is YOU who are intensely misguided, Weimarer, not I! Hitler's rejection of the Bible is what started the whole mess in the first place, dude!! Remember whenever you are in doubt (only a fool thinks they're never wrong), Dr. Plessner's little book and you'll understand finally what I'm talking about.

Go thou forth and learn/practice wiser ways:-)

jon357
31 Mar 2019  #250

AfD supporters who repeat what the Party tells them without even using a minimal amount of critical thinking.

It's the obsession with ranting that marks them out as weird and unsavoury. That and the policies they pretend to believe in.

Weimarer
31 Mar 2019  #251

Its a easy calculation. Letting 1.5 million 3rd worlders into Germany in 2015 dramatical lowered the egrman living standards and raised crime and terror to a record low.

Since the far right wins in Europe, migration was culled down to 99.3%.

I dont want live together with 3rd worlders. I say this openly. Voting far right shows to be effective to guarantee that goal. I have zero tolerance. Tolerance is the last virtue of a dieing man.

You should be happy that we reach our goals political. Because the next step would be the use of open violence. So far thats not needed yet. I´m happy how things develop.

jon357
31 Mar 2019  #252

2015 dramatical lowered the egrman living standards and raised crime and terror to a record low.

Tosh.

Since the far right wins in Europe, migration was culled down to 99.3%.

They haven't 'won' in Europe.

You should be happy that we reach our goals political. Because the next step would be the use of open violence.

You haven't reached your 'goals', and your rather menacing threats of violence are empty.

delphiandomine
31 Mar 2019  #253

It's the obsession with ranting

It's interesting to see how they're all largely the same, though. The words might change, but the message is identical, and that message is one of despair and failure.

jon357
31 Mar 2019  #254

They need that. Imaginary enemies who they pretend are oppressing them personally. Basically, they need a focus for their impotent and inadequate rage. Happy people are not drawn to neo-nazizm or threats of

open violence.


Weimarer
31 Mar 2019  #255

We do reach our goal. EU ended mission sophia in mediterranean. No new migrants come and those who are here will suffer more and more harsh conditions. Our government announced to cut financial support and Merkels new mantra is deportation, deportation, deportation.

They even deport deadly sick people now.

Come to eastern Germany and see how empty the threat is, there is a travel warning for non germans for eastern germany. People here can react quite agressive towards non germans.

I actually only use violence in self defence, i dont make my hands dirty if not necessary.

jon357
31 Mar 2019  #256

We do reach our goal. EU ended mission sophia in mediterranean

None of that is to do with Germans in general or neo-nazis in particular.

Come to eastern Germany and see how empty the threat is, there is a travel warning for non germans for eastern germany.

So much for the tourist industry.

Neo-nazis always lose, and always will lose. Partly due to the abhorrence of them in wider society, partly because of the inadequate individuals attracted to that nonsense.

Weimarer
31 Mar 2019  #257

I despise nazism. Im not a socialist. Im a conservative german nationalist.

That no african is saved anymore in mediterranean has two reasons. In Italy the far right is government and allows no ship in. And no other european country want take any because the far right gives the system parties hell.

In Germany Merkel stays silent now, because they fear AfD. Merkel even ordered the German frigate back home.

We stopped the inflow. Next step is to bring those out who came here. Cut they financial support and starting their internment to allow faster deportation is a move by our government that i actually see as positive. But its not enough.

As for tourism, i can live with no african and middle eastern tourists.

Germany stays German. Too bad for you, who would love to see our great nation to turn into a 3rd world ********.

jon357
31 Mar 2019  #258

Im a conservative german nationalist.

And we saw what happened to that shower of nomarks last time, didn't we...

As for tourism, i can live with no african and middle eastern tourists.

It isn't your choice. You have no say in the matter. Zero.

Rich Mazur
31 Mar 2019  #259

Weimarer, my apologies for barging in.

Yes, he and others like him can make their stay so unpleasant without breaking the law that they will never come back again. And I would like to help if I could.

jon357
31 Mar 2019  #260

he and others like him can make their stay so unpleasant without breaking the law

And how would that be?

Weimarer
31 Mar 2019  #261

I actually have. It starts by the individual.

Non germans go through hell here. Get not served in shops. People look at them in disgust. Thats the less harsh things that happen.

As i said i dont use violence and find it not very good.

The only day i ever met an african was at train station in Halle and he asked me for help. I just looked at him and turned away.

I think its important to show they are unwanted.

We had same in our training facility. I do bodybuilding and im quite sucessful. Won 4 trophy last year. In 2016 they asked if a syrian can join. I and 4 of my comrades said, that in that case we leave. In end effect the group administration decided to not allow his membership.

Using AfD makes it possible to protect Germany peaceful.

jon357
31 Mar 2019  #262

Non germans go through hell here.

The only day i ever met an african was at train station in Halle and he asked me for help. I just looked at him and turned away.

Says a lot about you.

Fortunately, the overwhelming majority in Germany and elsewhere in Europe are not like this. They regard you and your type as nutters.

Weimarer
31 Mar 2019  #263

The overwhelming majority in eastern Germany is more extreme than me. Alot of people say things far harsher than i do. Further east in Poland, Czech and Hungary its same.

In Italy rules the far right with an interior minister who calls migrants "human meat" and gets thundering applause.

And what does it say about me? Feeding pigeons is also banned, if you are too kind, you attract more.

Rich Mazur
31 Mar 2019  #264

calls migrants "human meat" and gets thundering applause.

Thanks. Now I feel even better about my "foreign human garbage".

jon357
31 Mar 2019  #265

The overwhelming majority in eastern Germany is more extreme than me.

In Germany as a whole, the majority certainly is not 'far-right'.

"human meat"

You think this is good?

All I see from you and your type is vague unspecified threats of violence, dark mutterings about the type of future you want (yet can't achieve) and vile sentiments towards other ethnic groups. Just morbid fantasies, talk and no action.

Basically you and your kind love to talk the talk, however you can't walk the walk.

Tacitus
31 Mar 2019  #266

The overwhelming majority in eastern Germany is more extreme than me.

That is what right-wing nutters like him like to believe. That they are not a minority, that there line of thinking is normal.

Of course even in Saxony the AfD is consistently behind the CDU, and recent polls saw them below 20%. The Greens (who are the last pro-migration party) are even getting closer and closer to the AfD.

the majority certainly is not 'far-right'.

They are far from the majority even in East Germany. While the success of the AfD and the Left party do indicate a certain democratic immaturity in East Germany, it would also be wrong to say that they are in the majority.

Weimarer
31 Mar 2019  #267

@jon357

Im not italian. Obviously many italians think its good. Salvini is most popular there.

As for walking the walk. We have a amount of foreigners lower than 1% and the rising antipathey against them leads to the fact that more of them leave. Their numbers shrink in eastern germany. From low to extreme low.

You want some videos of east germans hunting migrants out of town?

And look buddy, we achieved that noone is rescued anymore in the sea. One of our biggest sucess.

Why you think the system parties cater our ideology now?

@Tacitus

15 to 20% is perfect. It creates a balance. AfD has some bad ideas running i would not support. Like tbeir dumb environment ideas. But a strong AfD creates enough pressure to keep german interests up.

Fun fact, until 2014 i was a member of Greens. I care alot about nature. :)

jon357
31 Mar 2019  #268

As for walking the walk.

You don't. All you talk about is the deeds of others. While you sit indoors and whine about your fantasies online.

we achieved that noone is rescued anymore in the sea. One of our big

That's neither an achievement or a success...

And 'we'? You yourself had zero to do with that or anything else.

You want some videos

Videos :-D

That's all you have, videos of others to drool over vicariously wishing you were there. Or anywhere.

Miloslaw
31 Mar 2019  #269

I despise nazism. Im not a socialist. Im a conservative german nationalist

If this is true then good for you.
Just don't lean towards fascism.....

delphiandomine
31 Mar 2019  #270

Of course even in Saxony the AfD is consistently behind the CDU

Yes, worth looking at polls here - wahlrecht.de/umfragen/landtage/index.htm - you soon see that these AfD fantasies of how eastern Germany is some sort of 'stronghold' is just that, a fantasy. What is it with supporters of far right wing parties being constantly deluded into believing that their party is somehow much stronger than it actually is?


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