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johnny reb
9 Jun 2017  #21

roughly until about the mid-70's, they have no way of knowing how good the post-War years were for America.

Oh I was in my prime during that era sonny.
There were no food stamps and everyone worked for a living instead of vote for a living.
And if you want to credit FDR for that you must be reading some fairytale.
The true fact of the matter about FDR's budget was that he ran the deficit up just like Obama did spending money like a drunken sailor.

Roosevelt was a stubborn fiscal conservative yet was always compared to former president Herbert Hoover's deficit, which he exceeded twice (1934 & 1936) "after the New Deal."

In 1936, Roosevelt had the largest absolute deficit of $4.4 billion, or 5.3% of Gross National Product (with help from an overlooked Roosevelt veto from Congress for Bonus Bill $2 billion for World War II vets.)

The Roosevelt Recession followed as he produced an austerity budget which drastically reduced government spending and the economy crumbled, unemployment ballooned to 19% from 14% and generated deficits reached nearly 30% of G.N.P.

And you actually want to give credit to your glory boy F.D.R. for the post war boom !
Get a grip Professor as I beg to take one of your college classes that you claim you teach to contradict your liberal propaganda that you brainwash our countries youth with.

The only thing I personally give FDR credit for was helping set up the Social Security Program, nothing more.
Nixon was twice the president that FDR ever thought of being when it came to the National deficit, the economy and most everything else.
Now please, no more of your propaganda about FDR almost a hundred years ago as to many of us here know better.
PLEASE, I beg you.
Let's talk about why Crooked Hillary is not under investigation for her felonies. :-)
dolnoslask
9 Jun 2017  #22

knowing how good the post-War years were for America.

Of course the post war years were good for America, Europe was broken it needed food and materials to rebuild, America was best placed to supply this, at a price of course.

Dont forget Britain had handed over its finacial reserves to America under the US cash and carry scheme , when Britain ran out of money it was forced to take a loan from the USA (lend lease) this debt was only fully paid in 2006.

Fair play the US knows how to make a shekel or two.
Lyzko
9 Jun 2017  #23

Another reason was that Communism hadn't fallen yet, therefore, it was to America's interest to take good care of her citizens, otherwise, they might have defected to the "Evil Empire", right?

Nations don't typically act in the best interests of their citizenry because it's the decent, human/humane, and proper thing to do, but because there is some economic benefit involved. Loss of US-citizens owing to defection would result in fewer Americans to fill needed jobs, particularly in shortage areas which would subsequenty result in a big, bad deficit:-)
johnny reb
9 Jun 2017  #24

Americans to fill needed jobs, particularly in shortage areas which would subsequenty result in a big, bad deficit:-)@ Lyzko

Obama was a prime example of that with his "shovel ready" jobs. lol
Lyzko
9 Jun 2017  #25

Well Johnny, think back to the Roosevelt Era, putting millions back to work through similar programs. Gov't ain't there as merely a caretaker overseer, bud!! She never was and never will be, not as long as straight thinking prevails in this country.
johnny reb
9 Jun 2017  #26

Gov't ain't there as merely a caretaker overseer, bud!!

I think we may be making some progress here. lol

putting millions back to work through similar programs

Lyzko it was post war so what would one expect as far as the work force going back to work and no nothing similar because Obama didn't offer any "Shovel Ready Jobs" that you didn't need three of to support your family.

Well... of COURSE the 'Habaru' is going to staunchly support the 'BIG GOVERNMENT' ideals of FDR !
Those NEW DEAL "UTOPIAN VALUES" OF FDR were little more than the Federal Government "Give Away" Programs (LIKE Barry Soetoro ie: Barrack Obama !) as in 'JUST VOTE FOR ME AND I'LL GIVE YOU WHATEVER YOU NEED !

It's in your DNA to NOT pay for ANYTHING ! lol
Both Alinsky and Obama got their starts as "Community Organizers".
FDR was a Huge "GIVE AWAY PROGRAM " !
Central Government & Central Planning: both Communist / Socialist Foundation Blocks !
To HELL with the United States.... you just want WHAT YOU WANT..........FOR FREE !
Or as you stated in your self admission to guilt:

I'm only along for the ride,

Typical Socialist Liberal useful idiot.
Same reason that you wanted BARARIDE for Little Moeshe.
They pull out the Saul Alinsky "TRICKS" ... and you fall for BARRACK OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT or the "Nothing - Burger" that is, CROOKED HILLARY CLINTON......... it 's all about a FREE 'em like a Hooker goin' after a "dropped-quarter !"

You just can't HELP yourself !
GREED, Greed, & more Greed ! what can you do for me today ?????
There, now that we have FDR cut and dried for the second time lets move onto something like Comey the Leaker.
Lyzko
9 Jun 2017  #27

Elizabeth Warren spoke Pollyanna-like on NPR radio several weeks ago, wistfully nostalgic about how her "poor" single mom, in the very early '60's, managed to support a household and two kids just with a job as a checker at SEARS. Well, if you were a W.A.S P back in '62 or thenabouts, I guess in rural America that sounded pretty good for those days. Unfortunately, that was then, and this is now, and such laughable pipedreams show the lady's outta touch with what's goin' on in America over the past fifty years and counting:-)
johnny reb
9 Jun 2017  #28

back in '62 or thenabouts,

Oh before the foodstamp program and people actually lived on a budget you mean. lol
Kids actually WALKED to school and wore hand me down cloths. HORRORS !
Kids carried their lunch to school and didn't eat out at fast foods.
Mom wasn't paying a $100 a month for each kids cell phone or have $100 a month t.v. cable bill.

outta touch with what's goin' on in America over the past fifty years

Exactly, people pre foodstamp days (1964) lived within their budget.
Today the liberal socialist thinks it is an entitlement to keep up with the Joneses even if they can't begin to pay their own way to do it.

They think the Jones should give part of what they worked for so they can keep up with the Jones.
GREED greed and more greed.....give me, I want, I deserve...............
SOCIALISM DOESN'T WORK !!!!!!
Lyzko
9 Jun 2017  #29

Socialist-capitalism does though and it's called The New Deal. A good deal for the sincere business owner who sees his business as cooperative, a raw deal for the unscrupulous monkey-businessman, out to screw his workers.

One of the things I won't forgive Bill for was NAFTA as well as playing footsies with that rankest of anti-unionists, the late Sam Walton.
johnny reb
10 Jun 2017  #30

and it's called The New Deal.

That was a hundred years ago.
Today it's called Trumpanomics.

One of the things I won't forgive Bill for was NAFTA

Right, he sold us out.
NOW, tell us what Trump wants to do with NAFTA.
peterweg
10 Jun 2017  #31

You must love fake news

So he did fire the head of the FBI?

The head of the FBI who was investigating Trump?

Are you saying that didn't happen?
Wulkan
10 Jun 2017  #32

So he did fire the head of the FBI?

Yes he did, which was right decision. If you waste your time digging conspiracy theories you get sucked, it's not what you get paid for.
Joker
10 Jun 2017  #33

Elizabeth Warren spoke Pollyanna-like on NPR radio several weeks ago, wistfully nostalgic about how her "poor" single mom, in the very early '60'

This is the same Elizabeth Warren that lied about herself being of American Indian ancestry to gain employment and receives $300K to teach one class and gives us lectures such as " the system is rigged to benefit the rich"

Trump nicknamed her Pocahontas

She has the same amount of credibility as Hillary Clinton does.

I hope she runs for President, it will be a GOP landslide!
Lyzko
10 Jun 2017  #34

Trump bullies everyone he possibly can, joker, why do you seem surprised??

@Johnny,

As illness, hardship, and unemployment know no time period, therefore, the New Deal as well is a relevant and desperately needed as it was nearly eighty-odd years ago. Troubled times don't discriminate, why should you?
johnny reb
10 Jun 2017  #35

One of the things I won't forgive Bill for was NAFTA

Right, he sold us out.NOW, tell us what Trump wants to do with NAFTA.

I am waiting for your response to my question Professor Lyzko.

The head of the FBI who was investigating Trump?

Where did you hear this ?
Please post your source.
The F.B.I. director Comey testified that he was not investigating Trump.

That was rather hilarious Joker.
She got laughed right off the radio on that one.
I do believe she received closer to $400,000 to teach one class and gives lectures such as " the system is rigged to benefit the rich"

Trump bullies no one, he steam rolls their B.S. and calls a spade a spade.
That baffles the hell out of you liberals because you have no way to counter that besides making up lies like you just did,
He has stymied you liberals Snowflakes to a COMPLETE meltdown so out comes your HATE !
All the liberal bastards are doing is slowing down any progress for America which shows their hate for America.
You really do need to start listening to Shawn Hannity Lyzko to learn the truth.
Lyzko
10 Jun 2017  #36

Again, Hannity's as biased as all the rest. You simply agree with him, that's about it:-)
peterweg
10 Jun 2017  #37

The F.B.I. director Comey testified that he was not investigating Trump.

You are right, I meant he was investigating Michael T. Flynn
johnny reb
10 Jun 2017  #38

Again, Hannity's as biased as all the rest.

NO LYZKO ! WRONG AGAIN !
Hannity has the FACTS to back up what he says so that takes the bias equation out of it.
That is the difference between Hannity and the liberal fake news that has been trying desperately to undermine Trump with lie after lie.
Look at the last ordeal with Comey where Comey was proven to being a liar and Trump agreed to testify under oath.
Would a guilty man agree to testify under oath when he didn't have to ?
And how about Liberal Crooked Hillary getting caught red handed lying over and over and over.
Wake up Lyzko, you are clearly on the wrong side of American Politics.
The gravy train is over for you Bleeding Heart Liberals.
Joker
11 Jun 2017  #39

And how about Liberal Crooked Hillary getting caught red handed lying over and over and over.

A prime example of the double standards that exists in America.
Lyzko
11 Jun 2017  #40

That "gravy train" provided for the breadbasket of this here country and once derailed, will set America on a course straight into panic, in which you too will suffer the most, YOU, who placed your blind faith in Trump The Infallible.

Roosevelt saved the US from becoming a faschist dictatorship like Nazi Germany.

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