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Let's discuss muslims, jews, buddhist, and christians



Lyzko
22 Mar 2017  #511

He can merrily join folks like Dr. Gordon Gee, college president and open Catholic basher, who once a number of years ago, came out and said that a particular committee was being stymied, in his words, "by too many damn Catholics....." etc.!

You can't take a statement such as this one out of context. It was hateful and biggoted, worthy of an Archie Bunker comment. Only Archie Bunker wasn't a college president with a serious, responsible position whose words are trusted by thousands:-)

delphiandomine
22 Mar 2017  #512

in his words, "by too many damn Catholics....." etc.!

Oh yes, the open discrimination against Catholics in the US is nothing new, despite it being the largest religion by number there.

I just find it particularly curious that Johnny comes on this forum and talks about how it's "even better" that the RCC could fall within a year, despite it being the religion of a large amount of Polish people.

Lyzko
22 Mar 2017  #513

Johnny's one bundle of conundra wrapped inside a riddle:-) Don't bother trying to unwrap it; there's nothing there...but airLOL

johnny reb
22 Mar 2017  #514

I thought we should look at Johnny Reb's comments about Catholicism in Poland.

I thought we should look to see why Egg Face is going to get banned permanently.
Shall we start with going to the thread: Why are Polish so Conservative and Religious
Then scroll down to post # 164
I will post it here for all to read and compare with the one delph broke the rules and changes to abuse another poster with ANOTHER LIE.

Compare this post with the one above that delph doctored up to make it look like I am the one that made that post.

smurf 22 May 2015 ☓ #164

- Poland's latest Sunday mass head count has just dropped to 29.372%

Good

- It is unclear at this point whether the RCC can last another year.

Even better

And the egg just keeps dripping as I am requesting from the Administration of the Polish Forums that such an offense MUST be a permanent ban.

Three major strike and you are out permanently.

TheOther
22 Mar 2017  #515

to make it look like I am the one that made that post.

Why then did you quote Polonius and use Smurf's comments as your own?

Polonius3
23 Mar 2017  #516

free of such content

Precisely, Jews can do no wrong. They are perfect. The chosen race, Unlike the nasty Americans, Poles, German, Russians, etc., etc.

johnny reb
23 Mar 2017  #517

Why then did you quote Polonius and use Smurf's comments as your own?

He didn't, delph merged one of smurf's posts into mine to create a lie.
I have it all copied and record so TO LATE EGG FACE, caught you red handed.
Hopefully you will never post again here.

johnny reb
23 Mar 2017  #518

I thought we should look at Johnny Reb's comments about Catholicism in Poland.

Those are not my comments Egg Face, those are smurf's comments.
Why would you insinuate that they were mine ?
Go to the thread "Why are Polish so conservative and religious and scroll to post #164 by smurf.
I already posted it above.
Then in an entirely different thread of Member warning system to prevent abuse / spam / off-topic posts post #21 I was asking the mods why they left up a nasty post that would force another member off thread and I gave examples of smurf's posts (#164) that you have knowingly accused me of posting which is in essence a lie.

Do I have your pea brain straightened out on what you intentionally did now ?
Hopefully you will be banned for this permanently.

Atch
23 Mar 2017  #519

Perhaps I could be of assistance in this matter primary school style? When somebody comes to me with a 'tale' depending on the gravity of it I either dismiss it or investigate it. This one is worthy of investigation. In the absence of reliable witnesses, I make my judgement of who is telling the truth based on my knowledge of the chiildren involved. I know we have old threads that we can trawl through but who needs proof when they have access to a mind as sharp and incisive as that of Ms Atch, finely honed by years of scrutinising a variety of guilt ridden or righteously indignant little faces.

Johnny has certainly made negative remarks about the Catholic church but mostly about his own experience of it rather than general condemnation. His problem is more with church authorities and officials, and aspects of Catholic doctrine, than individual Catholics. Johnny likes the fact that Poland is a Catholic and therefore Christian country and wants it to stay that way, though of course it would be better if they were all Evangelists. It's simply not logical that Johnny would rejoice in falling attendance at Mass unless it fell into the category of 'Poles abandon Sunday Mass as Bible based Christianity sweeps the country'. Johnny, the dear little soul that he is, wants nothing more than that all Poles should be 'saved' :)) Smurf on the other hand is an aetheist and believes that the influence of the Catholic church in Poland is almost wholly negative and damaging to Polish society and he never loses an opportunity to get up Polly's nose about it. So my conclusion is that rejoicing in falling Mass attendance is far more Smurf-like than Johnny-like. My judgement is that the comments were made by Smurf, not by Johnny and that Delph is guilty as charged. I now leave him to the Principal for sentencing though as discipline is sadly lax in this school, I expect that we will see him in the yard as usual at play time :D

mafketis
23 Mar 2017  #520

'Poles abandon Sunday Mass as Bible based Christianity sweeps the country'.

Many US evangelists don't consider Catholics to be "real" Christians ("Because they worship Mary and the Pope and not Jesus!"

Some years ago I was invited to an "American" function in Poland and was surprised that many there were Evangelicals doing "missionary" work....

But then, IIRC, Southern Baptists used to believe that heaven was segregated....

Harry
23 Mar 2017  #521

He didn't, delph merged one of smurf's posts into mine to create a lie.

Johnny, one of the few things that Muslims, Jews, Buddhist, and Christians agree on is that it's not good to tell lies (unless it's done to save souls, in which case some schools of thought from some of those religions are OK with it). Your post is clear. You make use of the quote function and then post replies of your own.

This one is worthy of investigation. In the absence of reliable witnesses

You don't need any reliable witnesses at all: you can just read johnny's post, it's available at the link Delph provided above.

His problem is more with church authorities and officials

Johnny certainly does have problems with women in positions of authority, hence his violence towards and assaults on them. Sadly it is not uncommon for men who claim to be good Muslims, Jews, Buddhist or Christians to display shocking attitudes towards women.

johnny reb
23 Mar 2017  #522

Delph is guilty as charged.

Hell yes he is and I just may have to turn the dogs loose on him again if he doesn't straighten up.

Your post is clear. You make use of the quote function and then post replies of your own.

No Moana, I used no quote function as you can see there is no name in my post that was quoted so quit your lying again.

you can just read johnny's post, it's available at the link Delph provided above.

Exactly. and then when you are done reading that one, go to the thread "Why are Polish Conservative and Religious" and scroll down to post number 164 and take a hard look at WHO made those statements about the Catholic Church so you are right Moana, I don't need any witnesses as it is right there black and white.

smurf made those nasty remarks and not the falsely accused johnny reb.
SEE, here is that post that I copied for you in that other thread of "Why are Polish so Conservative and Religious".

smurf 22 May 2015 ☓ #164

Polonius3 - - Poland's latest Sunday mass head count has just dropped to 29.372%

smurf - Good

Polonius3 - - It is unclear at this point whether the RCC can last another year.

smurf - Even better


Do ya get it now Hazzy ? Egg Face flat out lied saying that johnny reb made those statements to turn the Catholic members here against me.

He is a slippery little lying weasel that is over due for a major tune up.

Johnny certainly does have problems with women in positions of authority,

I admire Ms. Atch who is our school mom here who holds the highest female position on this forum.
And then of coarse your idea of treating women, well, is by admitting to sodomizing them.
Now that is the most degrading thing you could do to a women.
It strikes me funny how Harry, delph, jon who all claim to be Jews have posted in this thread with condescending remarks about other religions but once their Jewish religion is brought up none of them want to debate it.

Do you wonder why that is ?

Harry
23 Mar 2017  #523

No Moana, I used no quote function as you can see there is no name in my post that was quoted so quit your lying again.

Firstly, you should note that while the religions of Muslims, Jews, Buddhist and Christians make no comment on it, calling people by names other than their usernames is considered to be a sin here.

Secondly, please stop with your lies, the religions of Muslims, Jews, Buddhist and Christians all say that is wrong. You most certainly did use the quote function in your post, as is shown below


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Atch
23 Mar 2017  #524

you can just read johnny's post, it's available at the link Delph provided above.

Except that's not Johnny's post. Johnny and Polly have always been loosely allied with each other and that's not the style in which Johnny speaks to Polly. That was also the time at which Polly and Smurf were locked in mortal combat and I was getting a fair amount of stick for not coming on board as a good Catholic and roundly condemning Smurf. I made a wonderful speech as I recollect now where I referred to Charles Kickham of the Irish Republican Brotherhood and explained my tolerance of Smurf as being akin to Kickham's feeling for his countrymen that "whatever merits or demerits they might have, they were his people, to whom he was bound to cling through life unto death" :))

who holds the highest female position on this forum

No that's Roz, she outranks me in seniority, all hail Rozalinda, Queen of the Forum. I knows me place :D

johnny reb
23 Mar 2017  #525

You most certainly did use the quote function in your post, as is shown below

That is not the quote in question you liar.
Show the rest of the post. lol
Show us who made those quotes.
Oh, we are right back to what I have already said which is:

No Moana, I used no quote function as you can see there is no name in my post that was quoted so quit your lying again.

You are very lucky that you are not at arms length right now because they would be calling you 'puffy lips'.
Now get out of my thread so we can get back on topic.

Ziemowit
23 Mar 2017  #526

My judgement is that the comments were made by Smurf, not by Johnny and that Delph is guilty as charged.

This is not only your judgment, but will be the judgment of anyone else who reads the link provided by Delph. It is very clear from the context of that message that Johnny was simply taking the words of someone else who was representative for the atheists or non-Christian people in order to illustrate his point. The words of Smurf were not "quoted" literally, however, but brought down directly which was Johnny's huge mistake.

I now leave him to the Principal for sentencing though as discipline is sadly lax in this school, I expect that we will see him in the yard as usual at play time

The game here is taking things out of context in all the cases when your adversary wasn't carefull enough to forsee that all they had posted may be brought against you. This is what Delph did, shrewdly picking up a post that served his purpose of ridiculing Johnny. This has obviously been done a thousand times before by Harry while challenging Johnny over that now famous case of him breaking the nun's nose. The context of Johnny's deed has always been left out so as to make Johnny look like a men who is violent to women while in fact it was the nun who was violent to him and, which is even more horrific, to him being a child. Harry has been the master of that game from the very beginning of his presence on this forum.

That's the very nature of the game which is played here. At one time, two other British members of the forum joined Harry in this game, thus giving rise to the name of "the Little British Gang of Three" or "the Brit Bullies tag team". But of course the "Principal" of the school - as you call him - has no valid reasons to "sentence" Harry or Delph as they will always have a "legal" excuse, and we may only speculate that the Principal has been indulging himself in the game just as much as the rest of us.

But apart from that, I feel obliged to say that from now on we should put aside all internal squables and simply work for the good of the forum!

Harry
23 Mar 2017  #527

That is not the quote in question you liar.

I was responding to your claim that you "used no quote function as you can see there is no name in my post that was quoted". I clearly showed that you did use the quote function and that there was another member's name in your post. Your lie has been exposed. I really do worry about your soul: Muslims, Jews, Buddhist and Christians all agree that telling lies is a bad thing but you do it so often.

Show the rest of the post. lol

OK, I'm happy to do that, if you really want everybody to see where the quotes are (I won't post the entire post, that would use too much disk space, just enough to show where the quotes are and are not).

You are very lucky that you are not at arms length right now because they would be calling you 'puffy lips'.

Really johnny, threats of violence yet again? Muslims, Jews, Buddhist and Christians all agree that violence is a bad thing, I'm sure that some people from all of those faiths would read that comment you made and promptly pray for your soul as it clearly needs all the help it can get.


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Polonius3
23 Mar 2017  #528

it's not good to tell lies

If thay gave Nobel Prizes, Pulitzers or Academy Awards for incongruities, the PF's
unquestioned Liar Laureate pontifcating about how bad it is to tell lies would win hands down!

Harry
23 Mar 2017  #529

the PF's unquestioned Liar Laureate

I can't hold that title when there is one amongst us who for decades took pieces of silver from the communist regime in Poland in exchange for spreading their propaganda in the home country he had turned his back on when it called on him to fight for it. Surely, Polly, as a Christian you know that people of that faith are not supposed to bear false witness? I'm also sure that Muslims, Jews and Buddhists take the same stance as Christians on that, and thus they'd all be concerned to see you doing that exact thing.

johnny reb
23 Mar 2017  #530

(I won't post the entire post, that would use too much disk space, just enough to show where the quotes are and are not).

Disk space Mike's asz, Then let me do it for you so people can see what a liar you are.

Thanks Ziemowit, you nailed it perfectly.
You must have put some time into that post and I appreciate it.
Thank you also Ms. Atch for your input.

Here is what delph posted: (Notice no one quoting the statements that delph accused me of making)

https://polishforums.com/feedback/member-warning-system-prevent-abuse-spam-off-73437/#msg1479708
Now go to the post that it was copied from. (the one Harry doesn't want anyone to see)
Scroll down to post 164.
https://polishforums.com/life/conservative-religious-57425/6/

And then for delph to post:

I thought we should look at Johnny Reb's comments about Catholicism in Poland.

One big fat lie you aszhole.
Harry you are one too.
The both of you should be permanently banned.

Harry
23 Mar 2017  #531

Then let me do it for you so people can see what a liar you are.

If you'd like to do that, it might be best for the forum if you took a screenshot and then hosted that offsite before posting the link here.

As for you yet again bearing false witness by claiming that I'm a liar, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists and Christians all say that is wrong, why don't you think about listening to them?

One big fat lie you aszhole.

I fear that if you keep calling people "aszhole", it will be you who goes to purgatory; it's another thing that although Muslims, Jews, Buddhists and Christians say nothing about is considered to be a sin here.

johnny reb
23 Mar 2017  #532

if you took a screenshot

Why do that, I made my point that you are a deceiver and liar.

Christians say nothing about is considered to be a sin here.

You poor lost soul to be so ignorant of what Holy Christian scripture says;
Proverbs 12:22....The Lord detests lying lips,
That includes Heathens such as yourself.

johnny reb
23 Mar 2017  #533

It strikes me funny how Harry, delph, jon who all claim to be Jews

I left out Lyzko who claims to be a Jew also yet knows very little about the religion.
So we have Lyzko, delph, Harry and jon all claiming to be Jews here.
Seems weird that they all ride the Jewish shirttail (for convenience only) yet know more about the Catholic church then they do about the Jewish religion.

I have come to the conclusion that they are all heathens who use whatever religion is convenient for them (Jewish or Catholic) while running down other religions.

Precisely, Jews can do no wrong. They are perfect.

I am slowly catching on Pol.

Harry
23 Mar 2017  #534

The Lord detests lying lips

From memory he isn't too keen on those who threaten to fatten the lips of people either, although I imagine that he already wants to have a word with you about other uses of violence, such as punching one of his brides in the face.

Perhaps you might feel happier as a Muslim or a Jew or a Buddhist than you do as a self-declared Christian? I do know that some Muslims very much share your views on women and how it's OK to abuse them. Some also agree with your stance on violence.

Heathens such as yourself.

I see we can add 'heathen' to the list of words you do not know the meaning of.

johnny reb
23 Mar 2017  #535

such as punching one of his brides in the face.

She may have been Satan's bride as she was straight from hell.
I am glad you realize that at nine years old I wasn't afraid to defend myself so as a grown man that I certainly fear no man........and damn few women .

Does it make you nervous that bearing false witness against me that you might find out.

You have professed to being a heathen after breaking away from the Catholic reform school that you were brought up in.
So if you claim not to be a heathen then just what are you this week, a Jew or a non practicing Catholic or a Muslim that sexually abuses women ?

You have claimed to be all three.

Harry
23 Mar 2017  #536

She may have been Satan's bride as she was straight from hell.

But she wasn't that, was she. She was a nun and Muslims, Jews, Buddhists and Christians all agree that violence towards holy women is wrong.

a Jew or a non practicing Catholic or a Muslim that sexually abuses women ?

Oh dear, I see you're still having problems with the concept of consent. Let me try again to explain it: in the same way that children cannot consent to sex and thus all forms of sex with them is sexual abuse, if a woman consents to any sexual act, it cannot be sexual abuse. I know that some Muslims, Jews, Buddhists and Christians will disagree as to what is and is not a crime (e.g. sex outside of marriage will be a sin to some of them) but I'm just setting out the legal position here. Some Muslims, Jews, Buddhists and Christians think that sex with children is not necessarily a sin (for example the RCC is OK with men having sex with 15-year old girls, inside marriage anyway) but the law says that is certainly is a crime.

johnny reb
23 Mar 2017  #537

But she wasn't that, was she.

Yes, yes she was, I was here, you weren't so I understand why you are clueless and are trying to spin the truth that you are so famous for doing.

Your reputation proceeds you.

violence towards holy women is wrong.

Violence against any woman is wrong including sodomizing them like you profess to enjoy doing.
Since you declare to be of no religion that would make you a heathen that does not have to answer to the sin of abusing women by sodomizing them.

How about bearing false witness with your spinning the truth about people ?
Does that count ? No ?
How convenient.
Do you call your church the church of Me-ism and declare yourself of being a god ?
You just kind of make it up as you go wallowing in your pig slop.

Harry
23 Mar 2017  #538

Violence against any woman is wrong including sodomizing them like you profess to enjoy doing.

I wonder if you're ever going to understand the concept of consent. Let's try again: if a woman consents to a sexual act, it cannot be either abuse nor violence, in much the same way that sex with a child is always abuse because a child cannot consent. Can you understand that?

I do know that some forms of your religion (and other religions) think that sex with children is not always a sin, but it is always a crime and it damned well should be, whether carried out by Muslim or a Jew or a Buddhist or a Christian. Or perhaps you disagree with that?

In the same way, some religions (including yours) think that sex with a woman is sometimes a sin, but where there is consent it is simply not a crime and not abuse. Or perhaps you disagree with that too?

johnny reb
23 Mar 2017  #539

understand the concept of consent

Is that what your church teaches is that it is o.k. to consent to sin ?
You are your own little god aren't you.

Ziemowit
23 Mar 2017  #540

So we have delph, Harry and jon all claiming to be Jews here.

This is something I haven't heard of. Harold may be a Jew, however. His anti-Polishness looks typical for the Jews who happened to imigrate to New York from Poland before 1939 and took the realities of Polish-Jewish animosities with them to America. He may be a descendant to one of such Jews.

Jon seems to be more of a Muslim than a Jew to me. His love for everything Muslim is amazing.

Delph has always been claiming to be Scottish who wants Scotland to become independent from the oppressive rule of London.

That's my knowledge on the three of them.

I left out Lyzko who claims to be a Jew also yet knows very little about the religion.

Łyżko may be a Jew who is a non-believer. I don't think that every Jew should observe the practices of Judaism.

Does any one of them know Yiddish or Hebrew? If I had more time I would be most happy to learn the basics of Hebrew ...


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