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Harry
23 Mar 2017  #541

your church teaches is that it is o.k. to consent to sin ?

I'd never follow any religion which deemed any form of consensual sex to be a sin. Just as I would never follow any religion which says that sex with children is OK. Given that some Muslims, some Jews, and some Christians think that adults having sex with kids is fine under certain conditions, I guess that would only leave Buddhism if I wanted to join an organised religion.

johnny reb
23 Mar 2017  #542

I'd never follow any religion which deemed any form of consensual sex to be a sin.

So that would make you a heathen then which justifies your sin of convenience.
A sodomy law is a law that defines certain sexual acts as crimes.
The precise sexual acts meant by the term sodomy are rarely spelled out in the law, but are typically understood by courts to include any sexual act deemed to be "unnatural" or immoral.

But since you are a self proclaimed heathen "unnatural" and immoral do not apply in your life.
I think we have found the bottom line here.
Are you even married to that poor girl ?

Harry
23 Mar 2017  #543

that poor girl ?

Didn't I make it clear about my views on sex with children above? It is always disgusting and utterly wrong. I do not have sex with girls, never have and never will, no matter what any religion says is or is not OK. I have sex with women. Is there a reason you won't speak out against your religion saying that sex with girls is sometimes OK?

A sodomy law is a law that defines certain sexual acts as crimes.

There is no such law in Poland. I believe that the RCC frowns on any act which involves the 'spilling of seed on the ground', which means they think both oral and anal are sins, but there's no shortage of Polish women who like to sin. I don't know (or care) what Muslims, Jews or Buddhists have to say on the topic.

johnny reb
23 Mar 2017  #544

I have sex with women.

Plural, women.
How disgusting when you claim to be married.
(Thou shall not commit adultery)
Does your wife know what you have exposed her to ?

Is there a reason you won't speak out against your religion

Yes, you are the last person on this earth that I have to defend myself to.
Is there a reason you won't tell us what religion you are ?
Is because when you say none it would make you out as a heathen ?

I don't know (or care) what Muslims, Jews or Buddhists have to say on the topic.

How about what Christians think about immorality ?
Or shouldn't I call you Christian. :-)
You claimed to be a Jew, what happened with that ?
Just a flavor of the month ?
Just what the hell are you if you don't want to be called a heathen ?

Harry
23 Mar 2017  #545

Plural, women.

Actually these days it's singular, it's been quite a while since I committed what Muslims, Jews and Christians would consider to be a double sin (does anybody happen to know the stance Buddhists take on the topic of threesomes?)

Yes, you are the last person on this earth that I have to defend myself to.

I'm not asking you to defend yourself, I'm asking you to agree that any religion which says sex with children is ever OK is utterly wrong about that. Why won't you agree with that simple statement? I'm not attacking your religion in particular about this, I'm opposed to any religion which says it's OK.

Marsupial
23 Mar 2017  #546

The people telling other people what to do with thier body parts.....your ideas are undemocratic to say the least. That coupled with proven fake psychology inferring made up links between behaviours....fail big time.

Lyzko
23 Mar 2017  #547

Exactly, Ziemowit! I'm a "cultural" Jew, though not "secular" as I believe in G_d and do on occasion attend synagogue. While I speak neither Yiddish nor Hebrew, I accept my historical roots as an assimilated post-Diasporic Jew:-)

Polonius3
23 Mar 2017  #548

Prizes

"Głos Szczeciński" has reported Szczecin councillor Jan Posłuszny taking advantage of Lex Szyszko (the Szyszko Law) to cut down trees on his property. Then he travelled to the hospital at Zdroje where together with his party comrades he planted trees in protest against environemnt minister Szyszko. He might have qualified for the Hypocrite of the Year award except for one hting -- he belongs to POO where hypocrisy is second nature and a great many qualify for that distinction.

Polonius3
23 Mar 2017  #549

"real" Christians

Can memebrs of a church started by a serial wife killer (Henry VIII) regard themselves as real Christians? What about those following the teachings of a German consummate anti-Semite (Luther) who seemed to have forgotten that Jesus was Jewish?

TheOther
23 Mar 2017  #550

Plural, women. How disgusting when you claim to be married.

What's wrong with a Ménage à trois?
:)

delphiandomine
23 Mar 2017  #551

Harry, I think you'll be waiting a long time for an answer on this one.

Still, Johnny, perhaps you'd like to explain the part of the Christian religion that allows you to justify having thoughts about the sexual desires of children, as you alluded to here:

Those young Catholic girls coming of age with racing hormones may not be able to control their sexual desires around such a stud. Oh just the thought of it is a sin !

https://polishforums.com/news/poland-fight-paedophilia-29215/8/#msg148365

As a bible literalist, can you interpret the following text to us as a self-proclaimed Christian?

The Bible certainly seems to have little tolerance for those who think about children in that way, which means that it's slightly confusing why the Catholic Church would condone any activity with those aged 15-18. However, from what I remember, the Vatican City actually raised the age to 18 from 12 to counter exactly this problem.

Polonius3
23 Mar 2017  #552

Ménage à trois?
:)

That's called adultry!

Polonius3
23 Mar 2017  #553

to stumble

This has to do with setting a bad example for innocent children. It can be any sin -- theft, false witness, overindulgence, adultry, divorce, etc. made to look as if OK or normal.

Harry
23 Mar 2017  #554

Johnny, perhaps you'd like to explain the part of the Christian religion that allows you to justify

There's no way to justify that. None at all. But those thoughts could explain his refusal.

That's called adultry!

Not if nobody is married.

delphiandomine
23 Mar 2017  #555

There's no way to justify that. None at all. But those thoughts could explain his refusal.

I think that even though the RCC is accepting of relationships between 15 year olds and older people, "coming of age" in the Catholic Church is actually defined as the point of confirmation, which is between 12-15.

The mind boggles, doesn't it?

johnny reb
23 Mar 2017  #556

it's slightly confusing why the Catholic Church would condone any activity with those aged 15-18.

Then you can understand why a homosexual man should not be working with innocent 7 year old boys unsupervised.
At 7 years old they can be manipulated that what is happening is o.k. but just keep it a secret between them and the teacher while at twice that age at 15 is old enough to know better to turn the criminal in.

I'm a "cultural" Jew, though not "secular" as I believe in G_d and do on occasion attend synagogue.

So is a "cultural" Jew a nice way of saying not a practicing Jew ?
Like a non practicing Catholic is still a generic Catholic that attends church on occasion ?

Harry
23 Mar 2017  #557

at twice that age at 15 is old enough to know better to turn the criminal in.

15 is a couple of years older than the girls you shared your thoughts about in the post quoted above. And on your religion 15 is old enough for girls to be if men want to have sex with them without it being a sin.

jon357
23 Mar 2017  #558

15 is a couple of years older than the girls you shared your thoughts about in the post quoted above.

Disgusting. He should change his username to Humbert Humbert.

delphiandomine
23 Mar 2017  #559

15 is a couple of years older than the girls you shared your thoughts about in the post quoted above.

Indeed. Johnny, please tell us if it's acceptable in your religion to have such thoughts about 12-14 year old girls.

Incidentally, the "age of confirmation" can be as low as 7 in the Catholic Church. In Poland, it's normally 9-10.

mafketis
23 Mar 2017  #560

Can memebrs of a church started by a serial wife killer (Henry VIII) regard themselves as real Christians?

Henry VIII founded the Southern Baptist Convention? You learn something new every day!

delphiandomine
23 Mar 2017  #561

There's an interesting page here about paedophiles in the Protestant churches in the US -polishforums.com/history/poles-sometimes-german-first-names-80891/#msg1587011
awkwardmomentsbible.com/shocking-pastors-on-the-prowl

Polonius3
23 Mar 2017  #562

Disgustin

Pot, kettle black. A deviant pontificating on sexual ,morality who is probably so depraved he doesn't even see the impropriety of it?!

delphiandomine
23 Mar 2017  #563

Polonius, do consider that child abuse is far worse than acts carried out between consenting adults.

Lyzko
23 Mar 2017  #564

A "lapsed" Catholic, I think Johnny means. Yes, that's more or less it. I'm what the Orthodox would dub a "gefillte fish Jew", a "born again traifnik" etc., much as someone who preaches love in the name of Allah, while simultaneously kills innocents on Westminster Bridge with the cry "Allah Akbar!!: on his lips, or someone who mouths the Catholic catechism in their sleep and yet attacks mosques, synagogues during the day etc. a "hypo-" aka "Sunday Christian"!

:-)

Harry
23 Mar 2017  #565

A deviant pontificating on sexual ,morality

Really? You really want to claim that what happened between two consenting adults is the same as a man raping a child?! I know that in some forms of some religions it's sometimes accepted for a man to rape a child while two unmarried consenting adults having sex is always a sin in those religions, but are you really going to let dedication to a religion blind you that much?!!

Polonius3
23 Mar 2017  #566

consenting adults

Another PC buzzword! BTW nearly all deviants prefer "fresh young meat" to the tough, stale and shriveled.

delphiandomine
23 Mar 2017  #567

I'm wondering how on earth you know this, to be honest.

Anyway, let's not get off-topic here. It's Johnny's thread (as he's repeated several times here) - so he should tell us if it's acceptable in his religion to have such thoughts about children aged between 7-14, which is the "coming of age" as defined by the Catholic Church.

jon357
23 Mar 2017  #568

A deviant pontificating on sexual ,morality who is probably so depraved he doesn't even see the impropriety of it?!

There are many sexual practices that are condemned among the more conservative sort of religious Jews, Christians and Muslims. Given the frequency and vileness of your barrage of tasteless comments about such practices we can assume that the full range of these habits occupies your mind constantly...

Polonius3
23 Mar 2017  #569

you know this

Numerous studies are online although many have sadly been withdrawn under LGBT/PC pressure so as not to show deviants in their true light. Fortunately I have stored scholarly data on above-average youth preference, substance (alcohol, nicotine, narcotics) abuse, domestic violence, promiscuity (multiple partners) and homo-specific diseases that are the hallmark of the deviant community.

jon357
23 Mar 2017  #570

Crikey


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