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Polonius3
23 Mar 2017  #571

raping a child?

Irony or hypocrisy? The very same self-appointed defenders of sexually vicitmised minors were also defending Polański sentenced for preciesly that offence.

Harry
23 Mar 2017  #572

defenders of sexually vicitmised minors were also defending Polański

Would you like to quote me defending that repulsive individual who fully deserves the punishment he's sadly avoided or shall I remind you what your religion says about how lying is a sin? All of the four religions that are the topic of this thread say that lying is a sin, even the ones that say sex with children is sometimes acceptable.

johnny reb
23 Mar 2017  #573

And on your religion 15 is old enough for girls to be if men want to have sex with them without it being a sin.

Please quote the whole quote where I said that, I can't find it.

much as someone who preaches love in the name of Allah, while simultaneously kills innocents

So you are claiming to be a terrorist Lyzko ?

delphiandomine
23 Mar 2017  #574

Please quote the whole quote where I said that, I can't find it.

I've already quoted it for your pleasure. You clearly mentioned "coming of age", which in the Catholic Church is defined as the age of confirmation - which is between 7 to 14 in most places. Don't try and weasel out of this one, you've been caught red handed.

johnny reb
24 Mar 2017  #575

I was replying to someone other then you Egg Face.
Not your turn yet so sit down.
He won't be able to quote me either because he speaks for Poland, he speaks for me, he speaks and speaks and speaks B.S. lies.

Now back on thread and I believe the question was, "What path does the Jewish beliefs take to inherit the Kingdom of Heaven ?" before Lyzko claimed to being a terrorist.

Harry
24 Mar 2017  #576

Please quote the whole quote where I said that, I can't find it.

If you are a Catholic, that is what your religion says is the acceptable minimum age.

But you've already told us that you yourself have thoughts about girls who are quite a bit younger than that.

jon357
24 Mar 2017  #577

You clearly mentioned "coming of age", which in the Catholic Church is defined as the age of confirmation - which is between 7 to 14 in most places

If you are a Catholic, that is what your religion says is the acceptable minimum age.

I wonder if the church in Poland has condemned that belief or tacitly accepts it, hoping nobody will notice.

But you've already told us that you yourself have thoughts about girls who are quite a bit younger than that.

That's seedy. I hope he doesn't act on those desires.

Harry
24 Mar 2017  #578

I wonder if the church in Poland has condemned that belief or tacitly accepts it, hoping nobody will notice.

I very much hope that the RCC takes the stance that the law of the land takes priority over the holy law. Although one does need to remember that until as recently as July 2013 the criminal law in the Vatican City said that it was legal for old men to have sex with 12-year old children (boys and girls).

I hope he doesn't act on those desires.

It's a slightly worrying prospect, isn't it.

Ziemowit
24 Mar 2017  #579

I wonder if the church in Poland has condemned that belief or tacitly accepts it

very much hope that the RCC takes the stance that the law of the land takes priority over the holy law

Both of you spend so much time thinking about the RCC - this is just amazing!

legal for old men to have sex with 12-year old children (boys and girls)

Plus one of you is obsessed with sex with minors (boys and girls). His posts about it are now scattered around the whole forum - this is even more amazing!

Polonius3
24 Mar 2017  #580

lying is a sin

Thus spake the PF's LL!

Harry
24 Mar 2017  #581

Both of you spend so much time thinking about the RCC - this is just amazing!

It's entirely understandable when you think that the RCC extracts more than a billion zloty from the public purse that we pay into and the RCC seeks to control aspects of our lives from when we can do our shopping to what we can do with our own bodies. But for all the years when Poland bowed down to the JPII-led Vatican City as the arbiter on all moral matters, the Vatican City said it was legal for 75-year old men to defile 12-year old children. That's utterly sickening.

obsessed with sex with minors

All people should be worried about the danger posed by paedophiles. I have for many years pointed out that given Poland's shocking lack screening for those who work with children, it is only a matter of when problems arise, not 'if'. Although even screening wouldn't work in Poland given that RCC staff are exempt from what little screening there is and that the RCC has in the past put convicted self-confessed paedophiles back into positions where they have unsupervised access to children over whom they have authority (it was exactly such a case which caused johnny to share with us his view that "Oh just the thought of it is a sin !" when thinking about "young Catholic girls coming of age with racing hormones" and "their sexual desires").

Polonius3
24 Mar 2017  #582

legal for 75-year old men to defile 12-year old children

The Liar Laureate in action! Can we have a quote on the subejct from JP2?
BTW Sunday shopping is restricted in many EU countries including Germany, France, and Belgium.

Lyzko
24 Mar 2017  #583

Apparently, among his myriad other talents, Johnny can't read English either:-) Did you understand my post in context or couldn't you wait to actually READ the whole message?

lol

delphiandomine
24 Mar 2017  #584

BTW Sunday shopping is restricted in many EU countries including Germany, France, and Belgium.

All the more reason to keep it, as it means places like Zgorzelec and Słubice (which are rather poor economically) will be able to benefit from German cash.

Haven't you read the comments by the owner of CCC? He made it very clear that he's for it, as they will save roughly 15% of the wage bill. The implication was that the remaining 85% will have to work much harder as a result.

Polonius3
24 Mar 2017  #585

save roughly 15%

Man does not live by bread alone!

johnny reb
24 Mar 2017  #586

(it was exactly such a case which caused johnny to share with us his view that "Oh just the thought of it is a sin !" when thinking about "young Catholic girls coming of age with racing hormones" and "their sexual desires").

Another of your lies Moana, it was not the case at all.
You took one sentence out of a debate and your sick mind viewed it as being a sexual fantasy of yours.
Sick Moana, you really have a sick mind.

Plus one of you is obsessed with sex with minors (boys and girls).

They both are self admitted bi o sexual and have posted relentlessly about immoral sexuality here on the forum.
Everything from recruiting young boys into bi o sexuals to being obsessed in sodomizing women to fantasizing their excitement about under aged girls.
It glaringly stands out that both of them need serious mental sex therapy.

His posts about it are now scattered around the whole forum - this is even more amazing!

Actually it is quite alarming.

If you are a Catholic,

'If" is a big word ain't it.
Harry wets his pants "if" he drinks to much beer.

And on your religion 15 is old enough for girls to be if men want to have sex with them without it being a sin.

There you go again, you have no idea what my religion is and base your opinion on what you "think" which turns out to be another of your lies to play on.

Now back on thread and I believe the question was, "What path does the Jewish beliefs take to inherit the Kingdom of Heaven ?" before Lyzko claimed to being a terrorist.

Time to debate the Jewish religion since we have covered the rest of them.
So far we have learned that jon, Lyzho, delph and Harry ....all who profess to be Jews know more about Catholicism then they do about the Jewish religion.

What's up with that ?

delphiandomine
24 Mar 2017  #587

It doesn't really matter which religion you are Johnny, I'm pretty sure most of them frown upon older men having thoughts about young children.

However, the Catholic Church has major problems in this respect:

One in 50 priests is a paedophile: Pope Francis says child abuse is 'leprosy' infecting the Catholic Church

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2690575/Pope-Francis-admits-two-cent-Roman-Catholic-priests-paedophiles-interview-Italian-newspaper.html

It's pretty clear to most observers that there's a lot more under the surface than we think in respect to child sex abuse cases in the Catholic Church.

Harry
24 Mar 2017  #588

The Liar Laureate in action!

How surprising that you think you can use ad hom insults in place of facts.
How unfortunate for you that the Vatican City has a criminal system based on an old Italian criminal code, the "Zanardelli Code", issued in 1889). Art 331 (1) of that code states that the age of consent is set at 12 years old.

Fortunately in H2 2013 Pope Francis finally had that law changed and now the age of consent is 18. Although that does mean that a woman could have been married for up to three years before she's legally allowed to have sex there.

Perhaps johnny savile still uses the Zanardelli Code and so believed that his comments about Oh just the thought of it is a sin !" when thinking about "young Catholic girls coming of age with racing hormones" and "their sexual desires" were in any way, shape or form acceptable.

Polonius3
24 Mar 2017  #589

Catholic Church has major problems

Any stats on the paedophile rate amongst Anglican priests, US Baptist pastors and Jewish rabbis?

johnny reb
24 Mar 2017  #590

It's pretty clear to most observers that there's a lot more under the surface than we think in respect to child sex abuse cases in the Catholic Church.

How about bi o sexuals that use the internet and a public form to troll for young boys to convert into sin ?
What does the Holy scripture say about that ?

shape or form acceptable.

It was perfectly acceptable if you would read the posts prior to that so you would know what was being debated.
Now back to debating the Jewish religion or don't we have any authentic Jews here that know what the Jewish beliefs are in regards to eternal salvation.

delphiandomine
24 Mar 2017  #591

What does the Holy scripture say about that ?

Not much, I imagine, given that it dates from a long time ago. I mean, you're welcome to look for references to the internet in there, but I think you'll struggle.

US Baptist pastors

Could be an interesting question to see how the child protection is in those circles. They're very patriarchal, aren't they - more than the RCC anyway.

Harry
24 Mar 2017  #592

Any stats on the paedophile rate amongst Anglican priests, US Baptist pastors and Jewish rabbis?

I haven't seen any, but I'd be very interested in any you could link to.

But a lot of the problem that the RCC faces is due to the way that it didn't deal with the problem and instead of handing paedophile priests over to law enforcement just moved them on to new parishes, where they offended again.

What does the Holy scripture say about that ?

I'm pretty sure that the bible doesn't mention the internet.

It was perfectly acceptable

No, sex with children is never acceptable, and neither are posts such as the one you made. The shocking thing is that you haven't posted so much as a word of regret about that comment. I'm told that Jesus will forgive sinners, but only those who repent, so if you don't repent, you won't be forgiven.

mafketis
24 Mar 2017  #593

Any stats on the paedophile rate amongst Anglican priests, US Baptist pastors and Jewish rabbis?

Or Imams? There are some very disturbing stories that come out of madrassas....

delphiandomine
24 Mar 2017  #594

There's a tenacious argument about the internet in Genesis 2:5-17 -

But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die

Certainly I imagine it would be wise for Johnny to stop eating, lest he make more unfortunate comments about young girls.

There are some very disturbing stories that come out of madrassas....

Have you seen what's happening in the UK? They've finally woken up and realised that having completely unregulated madrassas is a pretty bad idea!

bbc.com/news/education-15256764

I've got a Muslim friend who has nothing good to say about them.

Harry
24 Mar 2017  #595

Or Imams? There are some very disturbing stories that come out of madrassas....

Yes, well, what can one expect from a religion that follows a man who had sex with pre-pubescent girls? At least jimmy waits until they're close to being women before he has thoughts about them which are a sin.

delphiandomine
24 Mar 2017  #596

Yes, well, what can one expect from a religion that follows a man who had sex with pre-pubescent girls?

There's a pretty disturbing article here - blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/8983/what-really-happens-inside-a-madrassa
it's lengthy, but it really does show why religion and children shouldn't mix.

johnny reb
24 Mar 2017  #597

What does the Holy scripture say about that ?

Not much,

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
Do you not know the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God?
Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

I think that is very much.

Polonius3
24 Mar 2017  #598

an old Italian criminal code

And so you "graciously" wove JP2 into the equation to besmirch the Greatest Pole who ever lived. Distorting nad tgwisting the truth is also a lie, hecne the LL designation is very apporpriate indeed..

child protection is in those circles

child protection is in those circles

shoebat.com/2014/05/06/sexual-abuse-protestant-churches-catholic
There seems to be a lot of paedophilia amongst Anglican clergy which would debunk the argument that Catholic celibacy is somehow to blame.

Harry
24 Mar 2017  #599

And so you "graciously" wove JP2 into the equation

What did JPII do to raise the age of consent in the Vatican City above the age of 12? If he did try and do anything, he didn't have any success, given how the age of consent in the Vatican City was 12 until H2 2013 when the present Pope increased it to 18. Perhaps you'd have us believe that he didn't have enough time to raise the age of consent in the Vatican City above the age of 12? He was only Pope for 17 years. Perhaps it was one of those things he meant to do but never quite got round to? Or perhaps he just didn't care that it was perfectly legal for a 70-year old Cardinal to bugger a 12-year old choirboy.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10

What does the bible have to say about those who fantasize about the sexual desires of pubescent girls? Although I'd have thought jimmy would be more worried about what the law of your state says, given that while heaven might or might not await those who abuse children and repent, Bubba the paedo raper awaits those who rape kids and get caught.

Lyzko
24 Mar 2017  #600

Once again, it's always easy to take Scripture out of context and use its words to justify one's personal ideology! Rather like Nostradamus' predictions:-)

His forecasts were so vague, that is, applicable in so many situtations, who's to say that he predicted WWII, the moon landing etc.

Motto of the message: We all believe just what we WANT to believe. A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still!!


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