Let's discuss muslims, jews, buddhist, and christians

Now there's the pot really calling the kettle black!

You can't square Jesus' teachings/preachings of unconditional love and equality of humankind with the dastardly deeds committed in His name, many of which you condone, and you're mad because you know I'm right and it galls ya, that's all.

We can see through your ilk, Johnny Boy:-)

Except you Snowflakes are not right and it galls you to no end to think you are being called out on it.
People like you with no Faith of any kind at all are "tools" of the enemy.
Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, or Christians understand what a Heathen is.
And it just grinds your Socialist/Marxist Heathen's ass to think anyone would dare expose you for what you really are.
You enjoy judging my Faith and stomping on it but when I judge your Heathenism you get rather steamed.
So sad, to bad.
Now go to your safe room and get a hot coco and some crayons and a coloring book and play dough so you will feel better after your reality check.

Never once on this Forum have I ever declared myself to be either a socialst or a (horrors!) Communist, rather simply a New Deal Democrat with "conservative" liberal tendencies:-) You're seeing things....again!!

From where I sit, this clearly does not make me one of my country's enemies:-)

What's your excuse?

You haven't had to.
The contents of your posts prove otherwise.
You love Crooked Hillary, you love the Democratic give away welfare programs that are being abused to buy votes, you are in favor for free education, you mock Conservative Christians, you think because you don't want to own a gun no one else should be able to either, you think people who have sacrificed and worked and saved their money should have to share their wealth for people who have refused to work because they can make more on welfare (tax payers money), you think and post EXACTLY like a Socialist Lyzko.

If it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, it's a duck.
You are very much a Socialist big guy.
My excuse is that I have been successful by making GOOD choices and sacrificing in life yet the people who have not worked and made BAD choices are being rewarded for it.

Never will I understand why America punishes success and rewards failure.
Maybe you can tell me in Random Chat so we can get back on thread here AGAIN you thick head.

I consider myself, once again, an old-fashioned New Deal conservative Democrat and capitalist who happens not to believe that one need necessarily be a Reaganist CRONIEST in order to follow capitalist thinking:-)

For instance, I believe that everyone should work for a living, that unearned income should be taxed just as earned income, since the "unearner" of said income nonetheless collects a wage by dint of his/her cleverness, quite different from being either a college professor aka lecturer, doctor or lawyer who labors intensively for a living and who doesn't merely pick a winning stock one fine day in May, calls their broker and says simply "OK, send the check!"

I don't however believe in some sort of crazy "100% inheritance tax" or the like either. I do though believe that dividends, much as winnings etc. should indeed by taxed, only it should be proportionate to the person's income:-)

Now, does the above sound to you like the "ravings" of a die-hard socialist??! Of course not!

Regarding the topic of Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, and Christians, I feel that the real Trump voters and supporters our there in la-la land, aren't the button-down Wall St. bankers, but instead, those disillusioned, former 60's-style hippies who gave both gov't and convention the middle finger then, and now are even more disillusioned with business as usual, since most being post-War boomers never truly experienced an America before the advent of the New Deal, thus believe that things were always as they were pre-Reagan when they grew up:-)

They aged, but their social clock stopped ticking decades ago!

Why can't you stay on topic Lyzko ?

Muslims, Jews, Buddhist and Christians all have one thing in common that Heathens don't have.......FAITH !

I'm not sure if "faith" as understood in middle eastern religions is really a feature of Buddhism (or Hinduism for that matter). And non-orthodox Jews tend to be weak in the faith department as well.

Faith though doesn't and never did mean blind obedience to erstwhile outdated rituals, maintained solely, at least primarily, for self-perpetuation:-)
If a teaching, much as a law, makes both sense and right, it should, indeed MUST be followed aka "Thou shall not kill!!", "Thou shall not commit adultery!" or even "Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's wife!", biblical injunctions created for the benefit of the community. "Thou shall not steal!" becomes problematic societally, whereby in former times, there was more than enough for everyone, and the poor were taught to live within their means. Whereas killing someone is not only morally repugnant, as it takes a life which was not there for the taking anyhow (life is after all a gift on loan, (NATURAL) death being the reprisal due for services rendered on earth, it's final, a permanent state of being. Stealing on the other hand is sometimes the only way man can survive when obstacles beyond one's control intervene, i.e. being placed in a position of not being able to afford one's daily bread by working etc..

Faith is what we listen to when common sense tell us differently. Faith is NOT to act in man's name and then blaming it all on G_d:-)

Faith, like law, is therefore subject to interpretation, for instance, if a majority of Germans during the Third Reich, or an equal number of white southerners during the height of the Klan's activities, had consciously and conscienciously resisted the prevailing laws tacitly because they knew them morally to be wrong (albeit legally justified), much of the unthinkable horror of those times might never have occurred.

I have to agree with you on most of that Lyzko.
You have finally come down to earth.


Makes me think of the Jamaican guy who stole to feed his family that had NO FOOD.
He was a very devote Rastafarian.
I ask him how he justified that to Jah.
He looked me square in the eye and said, "Not to fret mon, da Jah knows me heart."
And that is what Christian Faith is all about too.......Your personal relationship with the Lord.

"He was a very devout Rastafarian......"

I don't care about the guy's nationality, I'm only concerned with his religion here!

Spoken like only a true American Protestant could speak. In fact, one survey revealed that only 48% of Catholics were absolutely certain that they could have a personal relationship with God.

Boy that makes it written in stone dunnit. lol
Coming from a heathen though would anyone expect anything different.

The principal difference between Catholicism and Protestantism is that Catholic teaching doesn't regard personal "weakness" as a moral failing, not does it blame physiological inadequacies aka barrenness among women or the like (male sterility etc.) as an indication either of going to hell or of having committed some egregious sin which can never be absolved!

Although Catholicism does unrepenetantly admit to the concept of Original Sin, it doesn't believe a la Calvinism/Puritanism that Lent is of historical significance only, but instead, that we all have something to give up in order to purity our souls. In this way, it resembles the Jewish Day of Atonement, at which time, observant Jews cast all valuables into the river and refrain from eating, sex, drinking or other pleasures in order to come close in their relationship with the Almighty:-)

Sorry Lyko but that paragraph is TOTALLY untrue.
If you disagree with me please post your source on such b.s.
Where you heathens come up with such stuff truly amazes me.

You dare to call someone who believes in G_d a heathen??! Are you aware of the difference in meaning between "heathen" (one who has no religious beliefs, save pantheistic), "pagan" (an idolater who worships either idols themselves or several dieties rather than one aka polytheistic vs. monotheistic such as Judaism, Christianity, and Islam in the Occident), "atheist" (one who rejects the existence of a superior being), and finally "agnostic" (literally, "doubter", one who leaves an open mind as to the existence of G_d if such can be proven to their satisfaction!)?? I don't think you are.

I am a believer in a higher power, but, unlike your ilk, I am above all a thinking person who accepts the existence of a greater moral structure in the universe, as well as the possibility of an afterlife, yet questions the "written" word of what hicks and hayseeds blindly accept as Gospel truth, merely because the Scriptures say so:-))

Learn something, will you please? Faith doesn't mean blind trust or unquestioning obedience to a higher authority!! That's faschism.

As to my above paragraph, "sources" only reflect the person who reads aka culls them. My observations are based upon my own life experience and are true to that which I have lived and seen.

You should visit the Creationism Museum in Kentucky. That'll cure you once and for all...

I've already seen similar and my brain's still stopped upLOL

Oh, the church of Me-ism.
No wonder you are so confused.


That is going without being said.
All of us here understand so just carry on with your daily Liberal self authoritative teachers babble that only children listen to.
Just remember that all of us will be there come Judgment Day and there ain't going to be no self righteous b.s. that day.

Then what you're saying is that some of us may not believe in Judgement Day, but Judgement Day (still) believes in us, is that the idea?

Love to watch ya tryin' to explain all that to an Orthodox Jew, a Buddhist or a Muslim:-)

Ever occur to you that other religions have their end of creation scenarios as well which have nothing to do with the Christian ethic? Think it over.

Nighty-night!

No, that is what you are trying to say.

Well then, now I'm completely puzzled. Seems you're not saying much anyhow. Would still like to know what exactly you meant so as I/we can show you where you're a little mixed upLOL

You see, the Scriptures, Upanishads, Bhavagita, Qu'ran etc. were exclusively written by men, recording the word of an allmighty being. They were on the whole illiterate (much as a vast majority of rural America, at the very least grossly under educated or schooled), and so are not necessarily reliable sources of so-called truth.

If you reject science, essentially you reject all learning derived or based on the unchanging principles of natural law!!

I was talking FAITH back in post #700.


And as usual you go off on one of your pointless merry go rounds and start talking about science which has nothing to do with my Faith.

Focus here !


No, it is, "if you reject Faith".
Are we tracking now ?
Are we back on the same page again ?
Stay on it now and don't go off on one of your irrelevant boring bunny trails.
Face it, you know just enough about Christian Faith to get you in trouble.

Faith once more is personal belief, NOT blind trust in the unknown based upon what people who knew even less than you might or might not have actually said/meant!

Of course it is, that is exactly what Faith is.
Why does that bother you so bad ?

...cuz when ya stop questioning, ya stop thinking, and when ya stop thinking, ya might as well stop living, because by this point, yer dead from the neck up!

During the '30's, millions of Germans were preached to by their Fuehrer that the Jews were a dangerous bacillus which had to be eliminated at any cost. Their blind faith instigated the most malignant, repulsive, calculated evil the world has known up till now. Stepping back and thinking, calling the premise of that belief system into question would have saved our civilzation a lot of grief, not to mention countless human lives:-)

Come on, man!! If you place your supposed blind faith in someone or something and it or they let you down, you're disappointed, correct? OK, then. What do you do? Probably much the same as any normal sentient being would do; you re-calibrate the nature of your belief system!!

Well see that is just it......my Lord and Savior has never let me down or forsaken me.
And He never will like mortal man will.
And every time my prayers are answered by Him my Faith becomes stronger.
Prayer is very powerful and does work.
You just have to have Faith. :-)

Faith leavened by common sense might be a reasonable compromise...so long as one doesn't rationalize or compromise on one's own morality, Johnny!!

THAT'S what I meant once before with the term "Hypochristian".

Apologies if it offended you, but often the truth DOES taste like a mouthful of worms. That's just the nature of the beast:-)

You are clueless to the truth Lyzko.
They even wrote a Christian song about people like you when they FINALLY see the light.
It goes, "I once was lost but now I am found, twas grace that saved a wretch like me."
You are one lost wretch Lyzko.
Apologies if I offended you but often the truth does sting.
Bottom line Buddy is if I was blessed to see the light, you certainly can too.
I have FAITH in you Pal.

Pay heed first to an old saying. "Seek the company of men who seek the truth. Run from those who've found it!"

Lest you wind up like poor old Mathew Harrison Brady aka William Jennings Bryan in "Inherit The Wind", you'll realize that wisdom isn't certainty and certainty isn't wisdom. Wisdom means discovery, for as Kant even stated "There is no a priori truth in the existence of G_d."

In the end, G_d is within us, all of us, and within our spirit:-)

My you learn wisdom. Now, go forth and practice wiser ways.

That's a fact, It's called Judgment Day.
The Lord will say to those who denied Him, "You did not know me so now I do not know you...........away with you to the lake of fire."

And Buddy eternity is for a very very long time.