Let's discuss muslims, jews, buddhist, and christians

Not sure I grasp your point! To be sure, Jews are targets nearly EVERYWHERE we go, regardless whether we are to blame or not. We remain lightning rods, and are likely to remain so for the forseeable future as well:-)

Pointing out perceived defects in a society scarcely makes one "anti-" anything, save perhaps complacent ignorance, any more than Jews or gentiles criticizing Israel makes one anti-Semitic!

{Lyzko - Not sure I grasp your point!}
Jews are the epitome of success in every field of endeavour, so they must be doing something right. And one of those things is to immediately react to the slightest hint of anti-Semitism or unfavourable remarks about Israeli. Poles would do well to emulate their example.

Jews are not necessarily "more" inherently "successful" in their endeavors; we simply are more self-aggrandizing about them, that's all:-)

It's really all PR! As Jews were traditionally marginalized in much of Western society, they had to push harder to make their achievements noticable.

For every Jonas Salk, Einstein, Teller, Paul Ehrlich, Sigmund Freud etc.. there is a Pasteur, Mendelejeff, Mendel, Charcot, Max Planck, James Clerk Maxwell, Roentgen, Semmelweis, Liebig ad infinitum, whose contributions rival if not OUTSHINE the contemporary accomplishments of their Jewish colleagues.

In music, there's Mendelssohn trying to rival Wagner, Schumann and Brahms, but not really making it!!!

Just shows ya what a lot of razzle-dazzle can do for one's reputation. Now, WHERE'S THE BEEF????
LOL

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That isn't actually a religion...


Not refusing very effectively since the Muslim population is growing here.

Sharia is the religious legal system governing the members of the Islamic faith.
It is derived from the religious precepts of Islam, particularly the Quran and the Hadith.
The term sharia comes from the religious law derived from religious prophecy.
It may not actually be a religion however it is derived from the Quran and precepts of Islam.
Therefore generally speaking it is a religion.


Oh the Christians are refusing very effectively by pointing out to them the Quran is a book of brainwashing hate and war of thousands of years ago.

Beheadings are no longer cool just because you refuse Sharia Law.
Since then toilet paper has been invented too so you don't have to use your bare hand anymore.
(Try to tell them that)
The growing population is do to Muslim men breeding under aged girls and having six wives that they keep pregnant constantly.
jon is it because your boyfriend is Muslim that you promote Islam here daily ?
You must have a reason to preach such non sense.

Because it isn't.


Yes, if you'd ever actually been to Warsaw you would have seen the changes.

Generally speaking it is though. ;-)


God save Poland !

Even worse are those atheist that tell people who, what and how they should interpret their religion. You're not a pope, you're not even a Christian by choice. Stay on your side of the fence and don't try to imitate Piers Morgan.


What to be mixed about? That dude should never became a Pope or at least he should keep quiet on current political issues, he is confused to say the least.


No, lets send all Jews to Madagascar, nowadays we can check out people's DNA and we can find out all of them, even those who are not aware of their Jewishness. - (?) not. What is your issue? Seriously!


There is nothing that cannot be reversed.


No, he is on the same bandwagon with other progressives like Hillary, BLM and their ilk.

Someone else decides that, someone both near and far.


Well, putting things into practice does attract attention I-S... Ain't gonna happen...

What's my "issue", Ironside? I've been asking myself the same thing about you for a long time now:-) I've no issue other than to set the record straight about the meaning of being Jewish! "Judaism" is and always has been a religion, the Jews on the other hand, have been and always will remain a people, a Semitic ethnicity apart from Arabs, ********, Hamites and others who dwelled in the same region or nearby to what the Bible refers to plainly as "Judaea".

:-)

Bah, its simple. Its a choice one has to make. :)


Really? I doubt that modern Jews are Semitic at all, genetically speaking so called Palestinians have more in common with the ancient Hebrews than with the modern Jews.

What that means to be Jewish? To be acculturated from a young age as a part of an exclusive religion group. Making you feel belonging and special at the same time.

...much like being a member of any religion, Wulkan! Do Roman Catholics want to left out in the cold either?? We know that modern, European CHRISTIAN anti-Semitism is the result of the lies spread by the Church about the Jews being Christ killers.

Muslim anti-Semitism is another story entirely. The Jews aka Israelis are not perfect, but at least they never had an Arafat-style leader cheering his folks into blowing up busloads of Palestinians!! The late head of the Jewish Defense League was a crackpot and NOT taken seriously by rank and file Judaism.

This is the key difference!

What?

Yes, don't you even understand what I wrote???
:-)

No! If you implying that I'm posting under both usernames Wulkan and Ironside you're mistaken. You're not being smooth and clever as you're imaging but quite the opposite in fact.

No Lyzko, he is not Wulkan, I am.


He has some mental issues and I'm not trying to insult him, I think he was teased at school for being dumb and now he tries to prove to everyone that he is not by pretending he speaks many languages. He claimed to be fluent in German and got exposed by JollyRomek who was another notorious forum user but he was native German and came handy for one thing. We all know how great is his Polish, probably straight from the google translate.

Maybe Lyzko isn't even Jewish because the official line of Judaism is that they are neither a race nor a religion and he really ought to know that. And I've known fair haired, green eyed Jews, and red haired, blue eyed ones which is hardly very Semitic. I should add that he's right in making the distinction between religion and race, in as much as Judaism is the religion (and anyone of any race can practise i)t, but he's wrong is saying that they are a people, because Rabbis teach that the Jews are rather 'a family', not a race. This family may encompass people of different genetic and racial backgrounds.

I suggested that a year ago when I questioned if Lyzko was even really a college professor.
My bet is that he is not.
Then when he claimed to be Jewish I was in doubt again because he talks and believes like an American Negro man.
Every time I pin his ears to the wall he accuses me of being a racist and hateful person which is totally Liberal Negro guilt speak.

I do not understand however why the Muslims want to come to our FREE Countries to enjoy or Freedoms and then still want to maintain their Sharia Law, that promotes hate and war, that is century's behind which has no Freedom's.

The more you cast doubt on others, the more you end up casting doubt on yourselves:-)

While it is true that a large number of European Jews can claim considerable non-Jewish lineage through intermarriage etc,, there are nonetheless identifiably non-Mediterranean, outwardly Semitic features shared even by light-haired, light-eyed full Jews such as I. Head shape, bone structure and facial physiognomy also include facial hair in addition to general body build, height etc.

Generally, I can tell who is of Jewish descent by certain of the above tell-tale signs.

As to what is a Jew, I am a native-born American Jew of German grandparentage, born and raised in New York City, citizen of no other country other than the US, full stop:-)

Merged: Post-Brexit British Jews choosing Germany over US or Israel!

An interesting turn of events, I thought, as I perused the morning paper. Apparently quite a number of younger Jewish professionals from around the Greater London area, between the ages of 30-45 are choosing to start a new life away from England, in of all places, Germany! Perhaps you'd already of it, perhaps you hadn't.

Curious as to the reaction of some of our members:-)

No surprise. Frankfurt (and Paris) are the places to go after BREXIT. The financial sector of the City will be hit hard in the future and many more professionals will follow before the UK invokes Article 50 and the doors are slammed shut. On top of that: young Jewish and German people are much more relaxed when it comes to WW2 and the Holocaust than their parents and grandparents ever were. Things return to normal.

Makes sense to me as well, being myself of German-Jewish descent, but from the States:-)

The report however failed to mention the German-language skills of said "young urban professionals". I figure they'd pick up the lingo fairly quickly, being lawyers, managers and academics, wouldn't you say? Somehow, they didn't seem like the types so described to be content with a mere "ex-pat haven", living abroad without really knowing the language.

And a Black man ? Interesting to say the least.

You seem to have a completely erroneous perception of who I am! Why is that? What ignorance propels your thinking?
Enlighten me, why don't you.

Most likely, even though you don't need German language skills to work in the financial sector. Private life is a different story. If you are not able to communicate in the local language, you will very soon by isolated and end up in the typical expat circles.

If a UK native English speaker were to seek employment with either a UK or US company, for example, I too would figure that the company's "parent tongue" would of course be English, so an employee with said firm should ideally be completely bilingual.

However, even though I've heard that at major German tech firms such as Schering, Degussa, Preusag, Siemens etc., even the German-born staffers MUST speak exclusively English at department or company meetings and such, I'd scarcely like to imagine the results of two German managers arguing a point in EnglishLOL

At an international organization, sure, I can see for practical purposes Poles, Nigerians, Brazilians, Americans/Brits and Germans all opting for English:-)
Apart from that, I've had such experiences as a translator with German companies, whereby the Germans always insisted on using only English amongst one another and the results were usually tragic-comic, with some handsome, overpowering Maximillian Schell-type trying to throw their weight around the office.

Most uncomfortable!

Wikipedia can be a useful one stop shop of information provided the articles are properly referenced to show the sources. Anyway here's a few non-Wikipedia sources on the topics Mafketis raised:

claas.org.uk Registered UK charity, supporting persecuted Christians in Pakistan since 1998.

bbc.com/news/world-asia-31922140

Persecution of Coptic Christians in Egypt:
independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/egypts-coptic-christians-who-are-isiss-latest-victims-and-why-are-they-persecuted-10048328.html

And persecution of Ahamdis in Indonesia, really quite shocking:
europe.newsweek.com/persecution-indonesias-ahmadi-muslims-68737?rm=eu
and from the Jarkata Post
thejakartapost.com/news/2016/02/14/indonesians-must-speak-against-persecution-ahmadi-protect-unity.html

This stuff is going on, can't see why one would deny that it's happening.


One big difference is that in the west, many people are deeply critical of American involvement in the middle east, many people don't support wars of any kind and in the west such people are free to express those opinions openly.

That's your opinion. I don't share it.

Anyway, religious strictures on who can marry who should carry no force in civil law. If a muslim woman wants to marry an atheist or christian or buddhist she should have the legally enforced right to do so (similarly, if a muslim ceases to believe in Islam or begins to believe another religion they should have the legally enforced right to do so).


I'm talking about freedom of conscience. Muslims should be able to practice their faith in private (like any religion). Their beliefs should not be enshrined in the law of a country.

Muslims should stay in muslim countries. Not parasite rich , christian countries.

Stop being so stupid in this day and age

You know that islam says you must be killed with stones if you sleep with 2 different men, right, dreamergirl?