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Let's discuss muslims, jews, buddhist, and christians



Lyzko
16 Sep 2016  #181

As I've stated previously, perhaps if the so-called "richer" nations built up economically the poorer ones, there'd no longer be a need for countries such as Poland, Germany, The Netherlands, France, Sweden or Britain to be flooded by scores of ill-fitting migrants in the future. The latter would be more or less satisfied with where they're living and abandon the prospect of moving to foreign soil which seems alien to them.

While they'd be welcome at some time in the class of tourists, there'd be a time limit for their stay:-)

NoNeedForMuslim
16 Sep 2016  #182

So why don't you start moving to Africa and start helping people in Africa.

Lead by example

Dreamergirl
16 Sep 2016  #183

How am I sleeping with 2 different men?

NoNeedForMuslim
16 Sep 2016  #184

You never even read the Quran didn't you? Well that means death sentence because it means you are an infidel. You really have no clue dreamergirl

Have you ever wondered why most of killers this year had only one thing in common? they were all muslim "immigrants"

Dreamergirl
16 Sep 2016  #185

Idiot what had this got to do with my situation

mafketis
16 Sep 2016  #186

if the so-called "richer" nations built up economically the poorer ones, there'd no longer be a need for countries such as Poland, Germany, The Netherlands, France, Sweden or Britain to be flooded by scores of ill-fitting migrants in the future.

You don't know what you're talking about. In reality one of the first effects of improving economics is to _increase_ the number of migrants leaving. if you really followed the migrant story (as I have for the last few years) you would know that.

NoNeedForMuslim
16 Sep 2016  #187

nobody in Poland will beat her, that is ********

however in muslim countries, it's the contrary, Quran says the women must be beaten

Lyzko
16 Sep 2016  #188

There, I agree with you Mafketis. Let's hope the rest will follow.

Crow
16 Sep 2016  #189

i hope that girl have brother that care for her and won`t allow this impossible affair to continue.

Lyzko
16 Sep 2016  #190

Crow, plenty of intercultural relationships work out wonderfully. It's all about a little tolerance, intelligence, and flexibility, qualities about which you seem to know nothing:-)

NoNeedForMuslim
16 Sep 2016  #191

intercultural relationships work well between civilized people. muslims are quite the contrary

Crow
16 Sep 2016  #192

Crow, plenty of intercultural relationships work out wonderfully. It's all about a little tolerance, intelligence, and flexibility, qualities about which you seem to know nothing:-)

go, encourage your sister to marry a muslim

Lyzko
16 Sep 2016  #193

You know, Churchill (whom I nonetheless still respect in other ways) said much the same thing when visiting Palestine and noted the so-called "lazy Arabs" alongside the "productive, industrious" Israelis, i.e. Jews.

It was a stereotype then, and it's even more of one today!

NoNeedForMuslim
16 Sep 2016  #194

stereotypes are based on the cold reality

przyjacielPL
16 Sep 2016  #195

Lyzko : do wyou know that muslims are very much anti semite and hate Israel.
In some countries being a jew is becoming difficult like France.
They have beenc killed just for their faith by muslims several times.
Even Scarlett Johanson and Pathalie Portman both from jewish background decided to leave France because of lack of security.
If I was jew living in Europe i would go to Israel.

Lyzko
16 Sep 2016  #196

If I were a Jew living in Europe (as opposed to the US), I would not allow myself to be chased, bullied, and hounded out of MY country by a bunch of ignorant degenerates, with no true understanding about the meaning of Islam!! Islam is NOT ISIS, and ISIS is NOT Islam, anymore than being German some eighty years ago meant being Nazi, or being a red-white-and blue American means being either a Klansman, a Trump supporter, or both:-)

Your arguments point to illiteracy as well as deep ignorance.

@Crow, I'd be far less upset if one of my siblings married out of the faith/culture than if they confessed theirs was an alternative lifestyle! The former is easily defensible, the latter less so:-)

przyjacielPL
16 Sep 2016  #197

I have never said islam was ISIS.
I said that Europe is becoming incredebly less secure since the mass immigration from Africa.
You can say whatever you like but jew community is scared. It is a fact whether you like it or not.

I know some muslims are liberal but the ones in Europe are in majority not very much educated , bigoted, hateful and revengeful.
Have you ever lived in muslim neighbohood ? I know some people who did and they move out.
They were scared for their security. I can see you are in deep ignorance too !

Lyzko
16 Sep 2016  #198

Indeed, the Jewish community throughout Europe is downright terrified... but not necessarily of the prospects of future anti-Jewish hostility, rather, of having to move to a "foreign" country like Israel:-)

Almost a century ago, a majority of Germany's Jews believed that theirs was the last safe haven against anti-Semitism, and (naively) that Hitler, along with his twisted minions, would simply pass away. Those who stayed, were either incarcerated, deported or killed on the spot by the Nazis.

The eternal tragedy of course, to all but the most ignorant, is that Germany WAS their homeland, not Palestine, the US or even England. They'd fought valiantly and died, many of them, in WWI, had sung peons of praise to Goethe, Schiller, and Lessing, had attempted to "Germanize" completely in deference to the land which had given them succor when most needed.

Sadly, those times, as was observed here already, are basically over, but who will pick up the shards of dashed hopes and broken dreams?

Crow
16 Sep 2016  #199

It was a stereotype then, and it's even more of one today!

Oh, i don`t obey to stereotypes, no matter that i am quite aware that during era of slavery, Muslims, Jews and Germanics equally took part in hunt on Slavs (ie Sarmatians).

But, i am all for business. Just, home is home. Its them and its us and Turk should just f*** off from Polish or any Slavic girl.

Lyzko
16 Sep 2016  #200

In plain English, your thinking is not merely outmoded, it is bereft of all common sense or reasoning.

nothanks
17 Sep 2016  #201

Young woman assaulted on public bus in Istanbul for wearing shorts

hurriyetdailynews.com/Default.aspx?PageID=517&NID=103947&NewsCatID=341

shouted "those who wear shorts must die," before physically attacking and kicking her in the face and shouting "you are a devil."

przyjacielPL
17 Sep 2016  #202

nothanks :

It is already happening in Europe (France). The islamist police forbid french women to wear shorts !
telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/08/two-families-attacked-in-southern-france-for-women-wearing-short/
Strangely the media did not make as much noise as for burkini.

Lyzko :
Jews were very much educated and useful to society in Europe. They were very successful and somehow their succes brought jealousy or hate in Europe.

This is situation very old. Even before the Christ was born they are recorded anti jewish hate in Greek cities in antiquity.
Muslims in Europe are very largely uneducated and cultuyrally backwards. Moreover they do want to integrate in opposition to jews back in the days.

The Israel governement need jews beacuse they are scared to be a minority in their own country.
Therefore they look quite often for new immigrants. Jews do not make many kids like arabs !
The jewish state went as far as asking jews of France to leave the country for Israel after terrorist attacks.
The french governement was annoyed at this of course. Because jews contribute a lot to french society : businesses, science, arts,ect...
It is the biggest jewish community in Europe.

Do you know that the head of Alstom Patrick Kron has polish jew origin(from Łódź)? Polish catholics as well contributes a lot to France : Kosciusko family is a poweful dynasty in france.

jon357
17 Sep 2016  #203

It is already happening in Europe (France). The islamist police forbid french women to wear shorts !

He probably even expects someone to believe that lie...

aa1395
17 Sep 2016  #204

Sry guys im a bit busy right now its my vacation sacred days so.. I will be back be assured and all false claims will be refuted very soon ;)

Hey ..I still recommend you guys to stick to the topic anyways and make a separate thread away from this section ... you can name it "hating muslims, bla,bla..." or any (...)title which is not belonging to the "love" section or to the OP basic question. (healthier). moved

Ciao ))

Lyzko
17 Sep 2016  #205

@Przyjaciel,

The reason the Jews were so "successful" is that the Catholic Church forbade Jews from practicing trades or professions plied by Christians, e.g. architect, carpenter, candlestick maker etc.., thus to the Jews fell the work forbidden to the Christians, namely, moneylending, being a pawnbroker etc.

Had Jews had the opportunity to practice visual arts (their faith prohibited them from showing a graven image), been permitted to attend university and so forth, (WITHOUT forced conversion!!) the history of Europe would have turned out quite differently:-)

dolnoslask
17 Sep 2016  #206

I think the Jewish race has been highly successful and made a contribution to the world as a whole , yes they have struggled but retained their dignity and not taken to the sword to avenge ant perceived past misdemeanors by other unto them , well apart from the creation of the state of Israel , but that's understandable given the Nazi persecution and the need for a safe haven for their race.

Lyzko
17 Sep 2016  #207

Your answer is a bit too facile, dolno. While you're certainly not incorrect in your deduction, there's much more to it than that!

dolnoslask
17 Sep 2016  #208

"facile" Good word that, I would just comment that, I say things the way I see them I never try to over analyse because one can end up running round in circles I will leave it to you learned intellectuals to debate the finite of the subject , I only stated what I think from what i have observed , but I am open to learn more, If you would expand on your comment "there's much more to it than that!".

Crow
17 Sep 2016  #209

Let`s also discuss rodoverie, ancient and original Slavic faith. This thread would be more interesting if included rodoverie in its title.

Lyzko
18 Sep 2016  #210

As Jews since the Middle Ages were typically barred from most, if not ALL trained professions, they had to forage for themselves, WITHOUT the help of their gentile brethren, hence they did have the luxury of the Christian of sitting on his laurels and waiting his turn; if he didn't hustle, he couldn't survive!


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