European News Thread

Agreed. The fear of death at the border or in a rickety boat hit from a navy ship is.
Admittedly, that would be drastic and actually unnecessary since we can't ever reach perfection. Perfection is only possible on the dirk's and my island where the NGO-style assistance for the invading foreign garbage would be a felony.

A working system does not need to catch every single one. 95% will be good enough. That can be achieved with heavy penalties, including total forfeiture, on the employers, 10 years of hard labor for the first offense and 25 for the second, no welfare, no medical treatment, immediate deportation without a hearing, no prospect of amnesty, no school for the kids, no catch and release with or without documents. The EU and the US got so soft that we can't enforce even the existing laws as too cruel. In the real world of Darwin, the soft die first.

Did I miss anything?

That's the thing...5% would come through...and that would be enough. These 5% would feed the dreams of every subsaharan poor sod to try it too, maybe he would belong to the lucky 5%?

That's not a good reason not to try. How many murders is Chicago result in throwing the bums into slammer for life? But murder is still on the books and when we catch them, it's goodbye forever - like life no parole as opposed to the sick 8 and out in Europe.

Would you have any problems with executing drug smugglers the way China does it? Different offense but the concept is the same: crank it up until there are no of few takers.

Or, if you were a tourist in North Korea - which would be really stupid, btw - would you even think about stealing anything? You would not even lift a piece of garbage off the sidewalk.

I dunno Rich...think about alcohol and prostitution...how many centuries had govs, the church and what not tried to cull out these "sins"?
Nope...nothing they tried did change a thing, people kept on drinking and *******. No brutal punishment will win the war against the drugs either.

But I have to admit, the pendulum swings out the other side abit to much for my taste in modern day, ultra liberal Europe with legalizing all...

Maybe there just isn't a solution at all..

Indeed they are not. People are willing to risk everything for the small chance of a better life. Everybody knows the story of this one guy who made wverybody believes they can make it too.

Ultimate desperation causes desperados to resort to desperate means. We should be ready and willing to stop the desperados by shooting and killing if necessary. Instead, we invite them are, unbelievably, we are proud of it and of our "humanity". Never mind that that is an invitation to even more foreign sewer to flow in.

I am not for killing people. I am merely applying what I would do with a desperado who would invade my house and refuse to leave to the national house. I would kill him and call 911 to remove the body before it would start decomposing and smelling up my place. In the US, the country I adore, they would just come and take the scum out without asking me why I didn't retreat the UK way.

I believe that "inviting" has ended by now....

Even Brussels is rethinking now, polstering Frontex instead.

Two different things - addiction and use vs business and selling. I was referring to the sellers. Personally, I would be in favor of police decoys playing buyers and authorized to execute sellers right on the spot. Like a team with a judge, cops, cameras, and an executioner. Kids under 16 would be arrested and kept until they ID the boss who would face the death penalty later. Like in China.

Even if it doesn't change the business at all?

Sellers, like any professional criminals, are not suicidal idiots. When was it the last time they tried to rob a gun store in full daylight? But they do rob jewelry stores often. So, what's the difference? The difference is that the probability of robbing a gun store and leaving it while still vertical is extremely low. That's how an immediate death penalty system works in a country I adore, the USA.

No, but they are greedy!

Wiki says there are estimates of about 12 million addicts in China...as long there is a demand there will be sellers.

What if...and only a what if question...what if the drugs would be legalized? Wouldn't that kick the sellers better out of the market than capital punishments?

No. Marijuana is still sold on the black market at prices below the dispensaries. Itd be no different with other drugs. China is sending so many research chemicals amd synthetics its killing many youth even first time or recreational users. In just the time since i graduated college theres hundreds of new drugs on the market. Thats why i stick to weed atleast i know what im getting, how it was grown even customized for the smoke i want.

Heh:)...and here I dropped even tabacco in my mission to reach the big 100! :)

Just rented to a guy who sells CBD tea and hemp oil etc,claims this is one of the first stores in NJ.I am surprised how he got the permits etc and merchantile license to sell it.I see his business doing good,people coming in and out whole day.

LOL who cares till he pays me rent:))))

Entertainment drug consumption is an expression of intense dislike of your natural self. Weird.

Were you the only one in the 60s who wasn't stoned? :)

You dont need dispensary license or any dea licenses to sell cbd oil. Cbd amd hemp oil dont contain any thc. The dispensaries here dont do so well atleast not any in the suburbs where i live. I wanted to open one till i found out the license costs 250k alone. Plus margins are low so you need a large customer base to mske some decent money. I have a feeling the dispensaries sell a lot of their product to middle men otherwise theyd have to shut their doors. Very few people are willing to pay the prices the dispensaries charge if they can call another dude to sell it way cheaper or a discounted quantity.

I was drunk only twice in my life but it was a happy kind - when I got my passport in PRL to get the f*** out and when I got my US citizenship.

So out dated Rich, hells bells I am almost as old as you and I know enough to call them "recreational drugs" instead of entertainment drugs.

Reality is for people that can't handle recreational drugs.
Is not dealing with reality for a short period to unwind and laugh to keep your sanity an expression of a like for yourself ?
I live up to my expectations, not someone else's.

The problem with alcohol is that women get drunk nasty because they never forget. Give them a couple of shots, and they will unload all the s*** from decades ago.

Guys get drunk happy. Huge difference.

yup, women forgive but they never forget


And want to fist fight their friends, use filthy language, beat their wives, kick their dog......


I concur

Now that is interesting!


pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/09/19/a-majority-of-europeans-favor-taking-in-refugees-but-most-disapprove-of-eus-handling-of-the-issue

I hadn't thought the number would be still so high in Poland with 49%...that's near the half of the people!

The highest support is in Spain (86%) and the lowest support is in Hungary (32%).

@Bratwurst Boy

Thats because theyre asking about refugees not economic migrants. The left and the media now calls every third worlder coming to europe illegally to draw benefits for years and years and rape and pillage a refugee. Fact is well over 90% of the people who came are not legit refugees, they are economic migrants looking for handouts.

Yeah...that get's mixed to often.

In Germany only a few percent of the yearly newcomer really deserve their asylum status, but most of the rest keeps staying too...

That's because merkel allowed everyone with an asylum claim to roam the country and give them a bunch of free **** during the years it takes to process a claim as opposed to keeping them locked up in a facility or processing them outside the country. Plus they let in many people knowing they were economic migrants. Germans would ask migrants to point out on a diagram which currency was syrian or describe how it looks. Even when they failed and were caught lying that they are not in fact syrian they were still let in.

Every country should adopt australias model - if you come in illegally regardless of whether you're a legit refugee or not you will be immediately be deported. And those with claims are kept in a facility outside of australia i belive in papau new Guinea

Nah, that's not Merkels fault. "THE LAW" (that everybody asking for asylum has to be taken in first) has been born as a consequence of the WWII...it's much older than her and will survive her. Inspite all the abuse!


Most countries aren't their own continent, not even their own islands. To secure your borders over land is a near impossible thing to do...besides North Korea or the ex-GDR that is.

The idea to build "EU-camps" inside/outside of the EU is a good and even discussed one, but it is not feasable yet because no country agreed to host such a camp till now.

It absolutely is her fault. No law states that you have to give money, housing, food etc to refugees. Neither does it state you have to allow them to roam the country for years till their claim is denied, which most claimants are denied as theur claims as bogus and they know it vut use merkels policy to stay in the country for years, sometimes with deadly consequences as numerous times a failed asylum seeker was only caught after they raped murdered stabbed etc someone. If she locked up the claimants in centers and didnt give out 25 billion a year to coddle migrants then they wouldnt come. But once word got around that syrians were being taken in with little to no vetting and given money, housing, medical care, food, etc then every third world young male with little to no education and little to no valuable skills saw an opportunity to finesse. Unfortunately west europeans are extremely naive and think that people wont take advantage of their altruism and that if you just give migrants enough free stuff and kiss both of their cheeks theyll eventually assimilate, stop raping women, start working and paying taxes and respect german/european culture customs and laws when thats the furthest from the truth

Sure it does. You can't take in asylum seekers to investigate their claim and let them starve to death on your streets in the meantime! :) Especially not as this judgement takes months, sometimes years.

Thing is, THE LAW is a good one, it's the mass abuse which is to fight and which is so hurtful to the generous people and those people in real need. That's the biggest gripe Germans have with the gov/Merkel right now, there is a feeling the state authorities lost control of this situation somewhat...

You do not have to give then apartments, cash allowance and let them roam the country. A country has a right under un to lock them up and feed them dog food while their claim is processed

Majority of germans feel merkel handled the migrant crisis terribly. In east germany the figure is closer to 2/3. Thats why afd has had such success in such a short time.

Not if it wants to keep the status "civilized"...