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Music Thread - part 2



johnny reb
11 Oct 2024  #331

Fool, you attacked me.Remember?

Would you two ******** please grow up.

This was one of my first concerts as a teenager.

music.youtube.com/watch?v=n0woy8L3F5s

jon357
11 Oct 2024  #332

Even spirituals (one of the sources for gospel music) are easy to read in two ways: longing for god/haven and longing for (political and personal) freedom

So many of them seem to have the message that this life is so crap for the demographic who created African-American spirituals that the next one can 9ish be better.

I find them musically good but somehow depressing, the music of the disempowered.

mafketis
11 Oct 2024  #333

musically good but somehow depressing, the music of the disempowered

A profound but limited genre... one of the main innovations of gospel was to introduce a broader emotional range, including joy.



Novichok
11 Oct 2024  #334

I can't stand black singers. Compare her with this one:


johnny reb
11 Oct 2024  #335

These are all American Made Girls .................Oh yea !

youtube.com/watch?v=ukLvTihYk8U#ddg-play

You'll like this song Novi if you can get past the vomit inducing 15 second ad at the start of it.
I'll take the one at the 2:47 mark in the leather, please, plain with nothing on it. :-)
Eat your hearts out European boys.

Novichok
11 Oct 2024  #336

Not my kind of music but the "girls" are sure damn pretty...

It's amazing how the definition of beauty is universal. Here is my favorite Russian:

The downside: It lasts so short. Then they need to switch to Plan B.


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johnny reb
11 Oct 2024  #337

Not my kind of music but the "girls" are sure damn pretty...

Some damn pretty horses too.
Can you imagine what the maintenance fee would be on one of them ?
(As much as I like to ride horses) ;-)
Definitely not in my budget.
We better get back On Topic here. Urg !

Lenka
11 Oct 2024  #338

Compare her with this one:

I prefer Barbra's version tbh.

jon357
11 Oct 2024  #339

one of the main innovations of gospel was to introduce a broader emotional range, including joy.

Rosetta Tharp was remarkable, wasn't she. So many good singers came from a tradition of gospel music. I think both Aretha Franklin and Whitney Houston among them.

Lenka
11 Oct 2024  #340

I think both Aretha Franklin and Whitney Houston among them.

Both amazing. Especially Houston can reach my deepest feelings

jon357
11 Oct 2024  #341

Houston

She was an excellent singer with an amazing range.

I never liked her that much back in the day; she was on pub jukeboxes and the radio that bit too much and that song "I will always love you" that they play at funerals just got on my nerves however listening to her songs now, yes she had an amazing voice. I know what you mean about reaching deepest feelings. You can hear traces of the gospel tradition in some of her music.

Novichok
11 Oct 2024  #342

Black singers scream not sing

jon357
11 Oct 2024  #343

Both amazing

Do you like Roberta Flack? She had an amazing voice.

Her cover of Ewan McColl and Peggy Seeger's song, The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face is a classic. Different from the original but her version stays with you.

Lenka
11 Oct 2024  #344

I didn't recognise the name but I did the face and voice.

Two amazing storytellers:

Tracy Chapman. I adore her music. Her lyrics are always amazing and her voice is so sweet. I have a feeling she is also an amazing human being.





And Lauren Hill. Very talented. Was really at the top but chose to focus on family. Here is a song to the beginning of an end :)



jon357
11 Oct 2024  #345

I adore her music.

Me too. The music of my youth. And yes, she is apparently a very good person.

People used to compare her a lot to Joan Armatrading who was a few years before her and elderly now. I don't know Lauren Hill, just as a name. Thanks for the tip; I'll put her on spotify this pm.

Do you like Sade? Her music was everywhere during the 80s and fell out of fashion a bit because people associated her with the 'Yuppies' that listened to it. Very unfair since she was living in a squat at the time she became famous.





mafketis
11 Oct 2024  #346

Joan Armatrading who was a few years before her and elderly now

How much commercial success did she have in the UK? In the US critics raved but she never really broke though...

One of my favorites of hers



Maybe even better



jon357
11 Oct 2024  #347

How much commercial success did she have in the UK?

She could fill venues and did so for decades but probably didn't have walls lined with platinum disks or much Radio 1 airplay.

mafketis
11 Oct 2024  #348

Do you like Sade?

I remember he first EP had a label on it with a hint about how to pronounce her name... unfortunately it was made by Brits for Brits (Shar-day) and Americans took them at their word and dutifully pronounced the r (I remember people well into the 90s calling her 'Sharday').

jon357
11 Oct 2024  #349

Brits (Shar-day) and Americans

The difference is quite small. I can imagine someone from Lancashire calling her Shirdy.

Almost forgotten now, however I gather she still sings and tried to make a comeback a while ago, as did Tracy Thorn (also pretty good) from Everything but the Girl.

Lenka
11 Oct 2024  #350

People used to compare her a lot to Joan Armatrading

Never heard of her. I did watch the videos posted by Maf and I can see why although I definitely prefer Tracy.

Do you like Sade?

Yes! I can't say I put her music on for myself often but whenever I hear it I'm happy. One of my favourites are:


The below one is a weird one.I don't remember when or how I got to know it but it reminds me of my late teenage years when you'd call an ex or a friend after having few too many at the pub. For that reason I always feel warm inside when I hear it.



jon357
11 Oct 2024  #351

I definitely prefer Tracy.

Me too. One person, so many good songs.

Miloslaw
11 Oct 2024  #352

Do you like Sade?

I loved her and that time was a great time for people to move on and progress, a time of hope and optimism.
Something we have lacked since......

jon357
11 Oct 2024  #353

a time of hope and optimism.

For you in London maybe. For us it was a fvcking nightmare. Everything closing down around you, soup kitchens opening, no jobs to get, everything getting only worse and never better.

Bleak times.

These were Sheffield and a big hit (the big hit of 1981) as the bad stuff was starting and before the effects started to be truly felt. The singer was going down to concerts and studios in London one day, and sat behind a desk in a comprehensive school on a council estate in south-east Sheffield the next.



Miloslaw
11 Oct 2024  #354

For you in London maybe. For us it was a fvcking nightmare.

I have some sympathy with that comment.

Miloslaw
13 Oct 2024  #355

Rock and Roll!!!!This is a guy called Tash Neal...... check him out!



Miloslaw
13 Oct 2024  #356

One more post from me tonight,this is Ali Handal.
Both Ali Handal and Tash Neal were new names for me till tonight,even at my age, you can learn every day!



Crow
17 Oct 2024  #357

Music of the Garden, in linguistic and every other continuity with first European civilization >

Ana Najev & Momčilo Otašević - Ponoć (2023)



Srbija

Miloslaw
17 Oct 2024  #358

I am bringing it softer(For me) tonight by just posting old British Folk Music.
Kicking off with a very old song from Donovan;



Another old hippy song from Donovan;



I always loved Cat Stevens too;



Cat Stevens had a talent for writing lyrics that were really poignant and made sense;



For me, this is Cat Steven's most touching lyric and again, so sensible;



We move onto Al Stewart, this is a song the Russophiles should love, it is about the German invasion of Russia,how the Russians were pushed back and how they fought back.I am not a Russophile but can still admire their fortitude and bravery.



This is my last post tonight, honest Admin! This is Al Stewart again, singing about the Spanish Civil War.



jon357
17 Oct 2024  #359

Oldish, late 70s I think, and sort of folk.He did record a lot of folk music and wrote some of the standards. They're definitely not the WI.



The Castleford Ladies' Magic Circle
Jake Thackeray

Miloslaw
17 Oct 2024  #360

Jake Thackeray

I remember him from my youth and always found him to be a bit weird.
Maybe he was more appreciated up north.


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