Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 3

i dont think ukra will benefit from more mlrs. what would really enchant their capabilities would be something like krasnopol rounds for 155 mm
this is very cheap and effective way to turn any howitzer into guided capable arty weapon.alto it requires dron guidance, and i dont know if ukra can still operate drones freely. its extremaly cheap and effective ,and doesnt require high tech platform. u can use any howitzer.


how that a evidence of fake? there are hundreds of videos of those mines being picked up in donetsk and all you got its some stupid pseud logical argument.

ukra still operate with like 95% of soviet made weapon

Round and round here we ago again, about giving the ukr pilots F-16s, now F-15s are in the deal as apparently the usa has decommissioned about 40 of them. A bill was passed in the senate giving official approval to train them. (as if it wasin't being done months ago, but hey now it's democratic usa approved) as polam mentioned a10s on the way just need the air to air f16/f15s

With awacs and other long range support they will knock those Migs and Sukhois out of sky, and establish air superiority. (Perhaps changing the tide of the war?) Had a chat with some F-35 pilots in tsv a week or two ago, it's all networked, fire and forget now, not about the individual dogfighting capability.

youtube.com/watch?v=x88e4fLuiVE

The americans think they're being smart in their own way, not to scare the red bear, due to their history with uncle joe, just escalate it step by step, how about we just end it in one step?

@mafketis
Medvedev is borderline retarded. With all due respect to real retards of course. The guy is Putin's biatch and always has been. He has zero credibility.

Ukraine is not wasting time dropping mines, they are too busy launching missiles and killing Orc's today. Hundreds more being processed into meat for dogs and worms. Exactly what should happen to all of them.

makes me wonder,why one would need fighter platform then.just build ground base platform if weapon /missile delivery is automated and guided by external asset

fighter platform training and building costs are massive.

according to generalsvr... (usual caveats) he's very mentally unstable these days and attempted suicide a few weeks ago (partly about his failed marriage and partly about disrespect within putain's inner circle).

also accordig to generalsvr the statement about the USSR was approved by same inner circle but no release date had been agree upon and he jumped the gun letting it out too soon....

very smart comment, but we're in the bridge between the old and the new. and the f-16/f-15s and the a-10s will play a vital role. But when u say a weapon /missile delivery system u are talking about drones right? both loitering munitions and the traditional missile fire and return to base? and you know the west will just overwhelm the ruskis in this new way of warfare?


goddam, he could have been the reformer of russia, but thanks to his lack of un veto about libya and gadafis subsequent death putin never gave him a chance.. i reckon russia should have vetoed that myself, let sarkozy play his imperialist adventures. obama was just going along with the frogs..

not really.
all i meant is ,if all delivery of missle (munition) to the target is auto done by external asset(like awacs) why one would need such expensive platform to fire missile like jet fighter.

we already see how russian use their Tu-22 bombers. they basically lift up. go into air and fire missile ,then land on the airport. no need to fly towards the target. therefore what the use of fighter in the future. it become expensive and obsolete.

in honor of bratwurst and polandball xoxo

Meet the Swiss-Swedish division of Azov Battalion:
twitter.com/Fishcak18433002/status/1554433818311942146

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misanthropic_Division
Misanthropic Division possesses around 500-600 members in Ukraine, about 1/3 of whom are actively participating in combat in Donbas
so democratic

yeah i get what ure saying now, because an f-15/f-16 can take out the tu-22 by being up in the air, a lot closer, than waiting for a SAM, they can take it out as soon as it launches, and take it out over the ruski border... a sam don't have that range, and the patriots and polish equiv won't take out every missile, esp if the tu-22 fires mach 2 missiles..

Heh:) noted! :)

i read some expert stuff in regard of thermobaric use in prison. and all seem to be in agreement that this cant be thermobaric round used in prison attack.

basically, thermobaric weapon is a lot more destructive and provide much more damage to structures than even high explosive round. and even beds in that prison were not moved.

it had to be some incendiary round (like napalm)or some planted bomb, thermobaric weapon uses pressure to make damage not fire

twitter.com/MichaKobs/status/1554276366970920962/photo/1

researchgate.net/publication/358042673_THE_USE_OF_THERMOBARIC_WEAPONS

wow that rok rachom host on tvp world is goin off with the latest info. poland getting 6 f-22s, i believe the yanks have never given them out before, not even to the brits. oh yeah it's on. he said, and his interwiee agreed, the f-35 was a cut-price budget model for export , and that's what we ozzies got.

Now reports are coming out of Kherson that Russian soldiers are breaking into civilian apartments, stealing civilian clothes and deserting. They do not want to fight and face American HIMARS. Poor little guys. Finally figured out they are cannon fodder.

Something similar is reported here:

Ukrainian secret service reports 200 Russian deserters.....

zeit.de/politik/ausland/2022-08/ukraine-ueberblick-ereignisse-mykolajiw-wolodymyr-selenskyj

...According to Ukrainian military intelligence, nearly 200 Russian Navy personnel have refused to to be transferred to the south of Ukraine. The 810. Brigade is affected, which is nevertheless now there. The unit be operational but weakened, said intelligence spokesman Wadym Skibitskyj in a radio interview.. ...

...and that after the POW camp attack:

Russia's highest court classifies Azov regiment as a terrorist group

zeit.de/politik/ausland/ukraine-krieg-russland-newsblog-live

In Russia, the Azov regiment is now officially considered a "terrorist organization." That could mean harsh penalties for prisoners from the Azov steel mill.....

@Bratwurst Boy
Now its time for hardball. G7 will set a price on Russian oil and any oil not bought at that price or below will not be allowed to move. Meaning Russia would be completely F'd with nowhere to ship oil because all ports of G7 members would be closed, all sea's within their control would be closed, all shipping companies within their borders would not be able to move oil, all companies providing equipment for oil movement would not be able to provide equipment and all repairs on said equipment would not be done.

This would be the most damaging to Russia in an immediate context. Russia's economy is crippled already and they have moved to a semi mobility requiring civilians to work in military positions on tech and engineering. Pressure is building internally and externally. Poor Vlad about to have his oil balls cut off.

....when they get China, India and Turkey on board that is....

@Bratwurst Boy
China already stopped buying oil from Russia. All their reserves are full, India is slowing their purchasing already. Turkey can be bought as we have seen with the NATO vote. This would be immediately crippling.

That would be really big news....but I fear they didn't stop it.

hellenicshippingnews.com/russia-and-china-conducting-high-risk-oil-transfers-in-atlantic-ocean/

oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/China-And-India-Are-Buying-Less-Russian-Crude.html

Maybe its black market business. Never stop that. But fewer purchases means reduced prices are coming no matter what. Too much supply is not a good thing for Russia.

Definitely! :)

Now I know why you are doing it. You are doing it to kill any desire on my part to respond on points. It works.

@Novichok
I am doing it because of all the POS posting their Russian propaganda. Get rid of those douche bags and normal conversation can take place. Even with equations that are not accurate. ;-)

DNR took Pisky yesterday.
this is interesting read from ukrainian soldier perspective. its from ukra website

censor.net/ua/resonance/3358083/pisky_myasorubka

they got beat up quite badly there.poor guys.

@Novichok
Sorry I could not find it. If certain trolls would stop posting pictures of dead kids, and things of that nature, I would happily refrain from any food descriptions. Sorry, but their posts are more disgusting and provocative to me than I think my food reference may be. Certain individuals I would personally love to meet and help to correct their expressions and support of such things.

russia getting closer to the Polish border! This time 15km.....

I guess that's good new for those that long for the days of the PRL...

onet.pl/informacje/onetwiadomosci/atak-rakietowy-15-km-od-polskiej-granicy-msz-komentuje/w6rrq5e,79cfc278

What would Russians attack with? In Ukraine they are down to T-62s and recruiting criminals as soldiers. Many of their units are totally degraded.

The Alliance supported Ukraine, a non-member state, with more than 12 billion $ in military equipment, intelligence and training, I'm quite confident they'd do more for a actual member state. Also to proove to other US allies in Europe or the Pacific that such an alliance still has a lot of value.

Also, USA did deployed troops into Poland. If Russia somehow invades, they will have to kill USA troops. And that is a war declaration upon USA.

Some dressed as women. hahahaha

guess what? russians still haven't given the red cross permission to investigate (despite supposedly inviting them)

why do you suppose that is?

bad sign
altho they explained that they invited international red cross not red cross ukraine
gotta understand that red cross Ukraine is made of Ukrainian stuff. not very objective team for conducting any investigation.
twitter.com/elenaevdokimov7/status/1554096047102001152
you would not accept Russian red cross to investigate this ,would you?
the only info from international red cross is from 2 days ago. they said they requested access.