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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 6



Novichok
3 Jun 2023  #541

RT again I presume.

RT is better that WaPo, NYT, CNN, and the Guardian combined. Since you don't read RT, you have no basis to criticize it.

Many Ukrainian Internet sites are blocked in the separatist parts of Donbas and Crimea,

...liberated parts...You do know the difference between separatists and freedom fighters?

and all Ukrainian television channels have been taken off the air.

Those bad, mean Russians. Unlike Western "democracies" that allow RT to operate without any interference whatsoever...or Russian boys and girls compete in sports...

If you missed it, that was sarcasm.

mafketis
3 Jun 2023  #542

horrifying thread on how moscow is raiding the provinces to find poor, dumb saps (aka 'russians') to send to the meat grinder....

twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1664918542175686657

as much as I hate russia I probably care more about everyday russians than a million russian 'patriots' put together since those 'patriots' don't care at all about the massive loss of life among their countrymen..... for nothing.....

over 200,000 of their own dead.... for nothing and they still haven't had their fill of blood.....

vampires got nothin' on russians when it comes to blood lust

Novichok
3 Jun 2023  #543

Children, today Grandpa Novi will explain the difference between RT and Western garbage like WaPo, NYT, CNN, and the Guardian.

You see...RT is so strict about separating news reports from opinions that it is hard to detect who actually funds RT. Western aforementioned garbage conflates "news" and "opinions" in a very sneaky and thus hard-to-detect manner - by generously sprinkling news with adjectives.

For example, where RT would say: President Putin, Western garbage - mostly British - would write: Tyrranical Putin. Same story, same facts, different images, and outcome.

So, please remember, by default, if it's from the West, it's a lie - until proven otherwise. To their credit, not everything the Western garbage press writes is a lie.

mafketis
3 Jun 2023  #544

More russian mobilization horror stories.... allegedly oligarchs buy and sell recruits like slaves and throw their lives away

twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1665033835313020930

Novichok
3 Jun 2023  #545

I want my money back...

An anti-tank missile launcher bound for Ukraine ends up in hands of Mexican cartel
The rocket launcher was identified as a Raytheon-made Javelin anti-tank missile system by Azucena Uresti, a news anchor for Milenio TV.

Who said here that Russians are bad at geography? Even my cat can tell Ukraine from Mexico.

Miloslaw
3 Jun 2023  #546

not everything the Western garbage press writes is a lie.

But by contrast everything the Russian media says is a lie......

Novichok
4 Jun 2023  #547

This one goes under: NATO? What NATO?

Zelensky rejects any 'substitute for NATO'
The Ukrainian president said that only full membership of the military bloc can provide security for his country


At the same time, the Ukrainian leader acknowledged that it is unlikely that his country can join NATO until the armed conflict with Russia is over, according to his office. "It is not because we don't want it, but because it is impossible," he said.

Hey, RT haters, find one word that would tell you whose side RT is on. Also, notice "Ukrainian leader" and Ukrainian president". No adjectives, no insults. Amazing, isn't it?

amiga500
4 Jun 2023  #548

The german robot shows some passion for once.
twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1665032138847027201

mafketis
4 Jun 2023  #549

More mobilization fun!

Guy talks about his friend who made two fatal mistakes....

He supported russia in the war (passively)

He believed the russian government....

Now he's daid in Ukraine.....

youtube.com/watch?v=tvHyBAB_kvA

That's what putain fluffers are supporting.

Novichok
4 Jun 2023  #550

The german robot shows some passion for once.

Your spelling sucks...Here is the correct version:

The German tool shows he read the memo from Biden.

Novichok
4 Jun 2023  #551

Kiev demands $55 billion worth of weapons from West
Ukraine needs at least 50 Patriot air defense system batteries to protect its cities and troops, President Vladimir Zelensky says


Sorry, Mr. Z but our Patriots are all at the Canadian and Mexican borders. You know...just in case we get attacked by...Oops...sorry, I can't come up with an enemy we needed these stupid machines for...but with your help maybe Russia will finally decide to pick up where the USSR left off...

mafketis
4 Jun 2023  #552

russian government using incendiary devices in shebekino... in russia..... the russian government is shelling it's own people!

russians are not big on irony it seems......

twitter.com/JackFought_1/status/1665231163386998784

Novichok
4 Jun 2023  #553

the russian government is shelling it's own people!

The American government is killing 100,000 Americans a year by keeping US borders open for political gains. At least Russia is trying to kill the enemy that hides where people live.

mafketis
4 Jun 2023  #554

The American government

irrelevant, start a thread on the American border and I'll have a lot to say, but I won't be distracted from russian misgovernance to do so.

What do you think about the russian government shelling its own people?

I guess you support it.

Novichok
4 Jun 2023  #555

What do you think about the russian government shelling its own people?

The same as I feel about the US government killing Americans with fentanyl.

irrelevant,

It is relevant. I am not going to let Russia haters make Russia exceptionally bad. Russia has a company. Actually, Russia's companions killed a lot more people than Russia could possibly dream about.

mafketis
4 Jun 2023  #556

ussia has a company

Gazprom?

getting flustered?

start a thread somewhere else about American bad policy.... don't try to do deflect from how awful russia is here.

russia invaded Ukraine because Ukraine is a free society

russia is losing control of its border

russians are not free to say what they think about the russian government

why do you hate freedom?

mafketis
4 Jun 2023  #557

Who cares what RT says.... let's look at what russian state media tells everyday russians.....

Now they're saying they have to kill every living thing in the Kharkiv region...

twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1665234355977875456

they also talk about the need for a 'final solution' to the "Ukrainian question" .....

Being against that is apparently being a 'russia hater'......

Novichok
4 Jun 2023  #558

Ukraine lacks weapons to launch counteroffensive - Zelensky's aide
Igor Zhovkva urges EU countries to do more to help Kiev in the fight against Moscow


Hey, Igor, you are lying. According to PF military experts, it is Russia that lacks weapons and those that they have don't work. So what is your problem, again?

pawian
4 Jun 2023  #559

Hey, Igor, you are lying. According to PF military experts, it is Russia that lacks

Why lying? It is all true. Both countries lack weapons. But at least Ukrainians make up for shortages with excellent patriotic morale. What morale do Russians have? Close to zero.

johnny reb
4 Jun 2023  #560

@Novi
If you have noticed, I have not posted in this thread lately until I did some research of my own.
You know buddy, the more I read about why Putin was forced into invading Ukraine the more I see where you are coming from.
This war started way back when the United States put facilities in Ukraine to produce biological weapons.
Then further study shows how deep rooted some of the corrupt Neo Nazi's are in Ukraine.
The billions of dollars the U.S. had invested in these facilities in Ukraine had to be protected.
Putin gave Ukraine an altimative and they made their own choice at the expense of tens of thousands of lives.
And as usual, follow the money and see who is profiting the most off this war.
And thank you Novi for helping me keep an open mind about this situation unlike the indoctrinated closed minded Euro brainwashed bootlickers here.

Novichok
4 Jun 2023  #561

the indoctrinated closed minded Euro brainwashed bootlickers here.

...and no pill to fix it.

I appreciate your comments. As Bobko said, swimming up Mississippi is hard but it can be done. Not his exact words...

A reader's post worth posting here:

I was born and raised in Seattle, married to a lady from Ulyanovsk, going on 18 years now. When it comes to Russia, Americans are so propagandized and deceived that it's pitiful. When I tell people that I've been to Russia seven times or that I lived there for two and a half years, they don't even know what to say, they are so taken aback.

When I tell them that I miss Russia, that I was happy there, that I wish we'd stayed, and that we would have if finances had allowed, they aren't sure how to respond ... they're stunned almost.

Generally speaking, the picture that Americans have of life in Russia could not be further from reality. Russians live life, they have a soul, and they are close-knit and happier than Americans.


mafketis
4 Jun 2023  #562

Meanwhile, midst this talk about happy russians..... russian state media proposes nuking Poland, hunting down the Ukrainian government and liquidating them and wiping out all major cities in Ukraine in order to erase it from the map....

Such close-knit, happy people....

twitter.com/TheKremlinYap/status/1664903841303633920

johnny reb
4 Jun 2023  #563

Sometimes mouthy children need a spanking to get their attention.
Do you really think NATO would nuke Moscow if Russia nuked Warsaw ?

jon357
4 Jun 2023  #564

russian state media proposes nuking Poland, hunting down the Ukrainian government and liquidating them and wiping out all major cities in Ukraine

The bar on r*SSian state too is low enough however that somehow seems to plumb lower depths.

An interesting thing is the reports of fighting between Wagner orcs and regular orcs. That and the whereabouts of Lapin, Shoigu and Gerasimov.

Bobko
4 Jun 2023  #565

the whereabouts of Lapin, Shoigu and Gerasimov.

I think if all three of them were to disappear, "permanently", no one would really notice.

Miloslaw
4 Jun 2023  #566

Do you really think NATO would nuke Moscow if Russia nuked Warsaw ?

Yes,without question.
Are you really that stupid or are you just pretending to be stupid

Bobko
4 Jun 2023  #567

Are you really that stupid or are you just pretending to be stupid

Broadly speaking - I agree JR is an idiot. But I believe he may be onto something here.

Even a broken clock is accurate twice a day.

Novichok
4 Jun 2023  #568

JR is right.

All one-megaton nukes are equal. The targets are not. Some targets are not worth committing suicide over. To the US, Warsaw is such a target.

NATO city is nuked by Russia, Moscow will go up in smoke.

You have no proof to claim that. It's based on the assumption that Moscow would just sit there and take it. No, it would not, and DC knows it.

This why NATO with that idiotic Article 5 is such feel-good bullsh*it. West can only wage wars against "enemies" like Serbia and Iraq. Today, even North Korea is off-limits.

I love North Korean nukes. Good job, guys.

Bobko
4 Jun 2023  #569

must know that if a NATO city is nuked by Russia, Moscow will go up in smoke.

As George Orwell wrote in Animal Farm: "All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others."

Miloslaw
4 Jun 2023  #570

"All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others."

A great quote, but it doesn't apply to the current situation.
In any case,Russians would be the less equal animals.


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