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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 6



jon357
7 Jun 2023  #661

Especially by people who confuse their own country with someone else's.

Another war crime to prosecute, since it's recognised as a war crime under the Geneva Convention and has been since 1977.

mafketis
7 Jun 2023  #662

I would be on my knees praying for the annexation of the whole country by Russia to get my check

Compare flooded areas under Ukrainian control (people evacuated, even under russian fire) and under russian control (where the people in flooded areas are left to their own devices and the government is simply ignoring them).

Part of the russian anti-freedom model you so love includes leaving people on their own in times of natural (or man made) disaster....

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1666368192057421824

mafketis
7 Jun 2023  #663

A russian's evaluation of the flood:

twitter.com/betelgeuse1922/status/1666395508649390081

money quote: "Nihilistic cruelty is the only concept that Russia wholeheartedly embraces"

mafketis
7 Jun 2023  #664

Interesting idea.... I don't know if it's true and as Sushko says, with any other country on earth it would be an insane idea, but this is russia so it's possible.....

twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1666357835155005440?cxt=HHwWgIDTkerni6AuAAAA

And true to the russian national ethos of nihilistic cruelty.... no one was warned and russia managed to kill a bunch of their own soldiers directly (cutting out the Ukrainian middle men).

As long as they're dead.... that's what really matters.

Novichok
7 Jun 2023  #665

That flood is a win - win for Russia and its supporters:

Russia did it: Finally! No more mr nice guy!
Russia didn't do it: Z is an evil pos!

cms neuf
7 Jun 2023  #666

Fine, no more Mr Nice Guy - Udmurtians are confirmed as criminals and now there is no chance that the few remaining pro Soviets in Kherson will ever want to see another day under Udmurtian control. Crimea has screwed it's water supply and the few big countries who were ambivalent, like Brazil and France are now looking stupid.

I refuse to believe that alcohol had any part in this, though I did read an unfair rumour that the Udmurtian who fired on the Wagner column was out of his box that evening

Novichok
7 Jun 2023  #667

Udmurtians are confirmed as criminals

...right along the Western scumbags that like invading and killing for "freedom and democracy". Would you like to see the list?

cms neuf
7 Jun 2023  #668

Nope

This is a thread about Udmurtians unprovoked invasion of their peaceful neighbors.

There are other threads in off topic to talk about the Iraq war, which I also opposed.

Novichok
7 Jun 2023  #669

This is a thread about Udmurtians unprovoked invasion of their peaceful neighbors.

This war was provoked. The US scumbags don't hide it anymore so don't be their lawyer since they already pleaded guilty.

No, their neighbors were not peaceful. Their Western masters spent billions to make the Ukraine army the best in Europe while avoiding meetings with Russia to address Russia's security concerns - including the one scheduled for April 2022. The plan was and till is to weaken Russian by provoking this war. Ukraine is just a commodity - like ammo.

Now, be a nice boy and try to avoid in your posts terms such as peaceful, democratic, and free in reference to Ukraine. Nobody in Ukraine claims any of that so you look stupid when you do on their behalf.

jon357
7 Jun 2023  #670

Udmurtians unprovoked invasion of their peaceful neighbours

There are some very encouraging reports about the number of orcs that have been drowned in the flood since r*SSia destroyed the dam. And apparently many have been killed by their own mines that are floating right towards them.

Bratwurst Boy
7 Jun 2023  #671

Their Western masters spent billions to make the Ukraine army the best in Europe

They convinced them to give up their nukes ffs!!! The only thing which would had staved off that invasion.....

Where do you fit that little fact?

Novichok
7 Jun 2023  #672

They convinced them to give up their nukes ffs!!!

Smart Russians. Dumb Ukrainians.

The only thing which would had staved off that invasion.....

Russia has nukes but that didn't stop NATO and the US warmongers from provoking Russia with NATO expansion.

Please do not tell me how peaceful and cuddly NATO is. My cat is peaceful and cuddly, not NATO - a creepy org that found an enemy in Afghanistan via 9/11, Saudis, and Bin in caves that happen to be there.

mafketis
7 Jun 2023  #673

This war was provoked

by russian imperial hubris....

cope harder and try to make excuses for them.... it just makes you look like hannibal lecter's new girlfriend crying about how misunderstood he is while he scopes out her ample thighs.....

encouraging reports about the number of orcs that have been drowned in the flood ... many have been killed by their own mines

faster, please. peter zeihan says russia never sues for peace until losing about 500,000 soldiers and we're not even halfway there yet! russian efforts are appreciated though....

Tacitus
7 Jun 2023  #674

army the best in Europe

Which is why they refused to supply Ukraine with modern Western heavy weaponry until well after the invasion started... .

The initial invasion failed not because of Ukraine's Western military equipment which was mostly suited for guerilla warfare but because of the determination of the Ukrainian people and the utter incompetence of the Russian leadership and army.

while avoiding meetings

If there one thing the West gave Russia, it is the opportunity for meetings, up until the eve of February 2022.

Nobody in Ukraine claims

Utter nonsense, like the rest of your post. Compared to Russia, Ukraine is certainly a peaceful and democratic country.

cms neuf
7 Jun 2023  #675

It is not the best army in Europe - they are experienced and well trained but the arms are only the same as Poland or Hungary have. It is obvious that Udmurtia would lose a war to any mid size European country due to inferior weaponry, poor training, corruption, ancient tactics and chronic alcohol addiction

Novichok
7 Jun 2023  #676

Ukraine is certainly a peaceful and democratic country.

The problem with people like you is that no matter what evidence I will cite - including Z saying on tape that you are nuts - you will not even look at it.

BTW, since Ukraine does not have direct and legally-binding referenda, it's not "democratic". No, elections once every so often does not make it "democratic". Com China has elections, too.

Novichok
7 Jun 2023  #677

"Peaceful and democratic"....Sure...

Western journalists face huge censorship in Ukraine - media
Kiev goes to great lengths to hide the realities of war from foreign audiences, Semafor has reported


The authorities only allow press tours with press officers, where they show off in front of the camera and are afraid to show the real situation," Ukrainian photographer Maxim Dondyuk wrote on Instagram in May after Ukrainian authorities threatened to strip his press accreditation. Dondyuk had taken pictures of the dire conditions in Ukrainian trenches for a New Yorker article.

New York Times journalist Thomas Gibbons-Neff has had his credentials revoked on several occasions, including after he reported that Ukrainian forces were using banned cluster munitions. Magnum photographer Antoine d'Agata had his access denied after documenting the psychological suffering of Ukrainian soldiers in a mental health facility. An NBC News crew had their press passes revoked after they traveled to Crimea and interviewed locals who were happy to live in Russia and supported the Russian military.

Hey, bootlickers, in case you got lazy and missed the last sentence...

An NBC News crew had their press passes revoked after they traveled to Crimea and interviewed locals who were happy to live in Russia and supported the Russian military

According to Z-laws, nobody is supposed to be happy in Crimea. If you say they are happy, you are gone....

mafketis
7 Jun 2023  #678

censorship in Ukraine

Hey russian bootlicker!

Here's the husband of Simonyan saying there should be no tolerance in russia for any opinion that differs from government policy

twitter.com/VladaKnowlton/status/1666506245791166469

Here he is again... saying that the opinion of authority (that is, putain) is 'sacred'

Lick those russian boots, novi, you know you want to! Get your tongue all over them!

Novichok
7 Jun 2023  #679

Hey russian bootlicker!

Let me, kutasek, explain the meaning of "bootlicker". A bootlicker is a person who does distasteful things because he fears his superiors, including his government. Alternately, when he wants something from them. Neither applies to me but it does to those who are not free to offend protected classes or oppose their ruling mob. Those reporters in #677 are a good example. To stay and continue, they kiss Z's butt and toe the line. Got it?

But at least you tried...Good boy...

mafketis
7 Jun 2023  #680

explain the meaning of "bootlicker"

It's anyone who worships raw, brute force.... that's you. You want russia to kill children because you're in love with RT because it makes you feel smart (you're not) and putain because you think you could be pretty good in the role of absolute ruler (you wouldn't).

Using discretion in reporting how a people are fighting for survival from an enemy power that wants them all dead.... not the same thing at all.

Go lick those russian boots some more.

Novichok
7 Jun 2023  #681

It's anyone who worships raw, brute force.... that's you.

Tell me something new... I especially liked the American shock-and-awe. I was against that war but once it was on that's how you do it. Kill 'em all and let God sort the garbage out.

I feel for Putin since his "enemy" has his DNA. Killing them would be like Americans killing Brits. Ain't gonna ever happen...

cms neuf
7 Jun 2023  #682

We have Udmurtian shock and awe

Shock that they are firing on their own troops, drowning their own soldiers

Awe that they are unable to defend their borders from a few irregulars, not helped by a few half litres of cheap vodka

Your military is in total chaos tonight

Novichok
7 Jun 2023  #683

Using discretion in reporting how a people are fighting for survival

Nobody in Ukraine was or is now "fighting for survival". You just made this bs now to add more big words to "freedom" and "democracy". So now we have three reasons: for freedom, democracy, and survival. Sure, gluptasku...

They are fighting because they are not allowed to stop and see their wives and kids. Duh!

mafketis
7 Jun 2023  #684

I feel for Putin

of course you do....

his "enemy" has his DNA

please.... he's clearly finno-ugric and not a real slav at all....

Miloslaw
7 Jun 2023  #685

I feel for Putin since his "enemy" has his DNA. Killing them would be like Americans killing Brits. Ain't gonna ever happen...

Blimey! I never expected that from you Rich!
But you are right!

Novichok
7 Jun 2023  #686

I used a metaphor. He is the Russians around him and the army in CDL. OK now?

Miloslaw
7 Jun 2023  #687

Nah.

I have no idea what you are talking about.

Bratwurst Boy
8 Jun 2023  #688

++ First sighted ++ Ukrainian offensive underway ++ German Leopard tanks are now advancing

The counteroffensive is truly underway.....BILD posted the first pics of moving Leopards:

bild.de/bild-plus/politik/ausland/politik-ausland/erstmals-bei-offensive-gesichtet-jetzt-stossen-deutsche-leopard-panzer-vor-84253894.bild.html

The whole world was waiting for it. Now the time has come: Ukraine advances against the Russians with German Leopard 2 tanks!

The German main battle tanks were sighted on the battlefield for the first time, they take up the fight against the Russian invaders.

The offensive is on!


Bratwurst Boy
8 Jun 2023  #689

.....from another source:

...Ukrainian units are to return to the front south of the city of Orikhiv (between Zaporizhia and Mariupol in the south-east of the country). The formation is led by two Leopard 2A4 tanks. According to "Bild", there are also British and US combat vehicles in the column.

There is no confirmation of the information from the "Bild" newspaper from the Ukrainian side. The course of the major offensive is top secret. There is an information blackout. However, there were reports from Russian sources that Ukraine had massively shelled nearby sectors of the front in the Zaporizhia region.....


focus.de/politik/ausland/ukraine-krieg-im-ticker-russische-kriegsblogger-in-panik-ukraine-startet-panzer-offensive_id_57275780.html

mafketis
8 Jun 2023  #690

no idea what you are talking about.

Don't beat yourself up about it. He was in russia-supporting fugue state, blathering out random nonsense in an attempt to muddy the waters and confuse people guided by rationality and principles, the same away a startled octopus tries to hide from a predator.

in other news... apparently wagnerites are raping russian soldiers....

youtube.com/post/UgkxvKRVzg_5XtVKUua5O1sjAEDP5f8L4QAq


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