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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 6



Bobko
8 Jun 2023  #721

a handful of psychopathic dictators

If more than half the world population represents a "handful", then it's clear it's no use to debate with you.

cms neuf
8 Jun 2023  #722

Most of them couldn't wait to get out - commie scum leaders had to keep them in with walls and barbed wire

mafketis
8 Jun 2023  #723

Most of them couldn't wait to get out

look at bobko himself, defending russia while living in russia's declared number one enemy.....

how many russians moved to the US?

how many Americans moved to russia?

Says a lot....

Alien
8 Jun 2023  #724

while living in russia's declared number one enemy.....

It is possible that Bobko, being a russian troll, does not live in the USA but in St. Petersburg and has a fake online identity to make it easier to make contacts and spread russian pripaganda

Velund
8 Jun 2023  #725

It is possible that Bobko

Also there is a lot of chances that really it is a highly trained dog named Bobik, but each of those chances is very close to zero. ;)

Novichok
8 Jun 2023  #726

how many Americans moved to russia?

If Russia spoke English, you would be amazed...

Novichok
9 Jun 2023  #727

Those "barbarians"...

Russian infant mortality rate reaches historic low
Life expectancy is rising at a faster pace than predicted, Russia's Health Ministry has reported


Infant mortality in numbers:

Poland 3.74
Russia 4.36
US 5.44
Ukraine 6.94

Also:

Average life expectancy in Russia has risen by 2.7 years in the last 12 months, while infant and child deaths hit historic lows, Health Minister Mikhail Murashko reported on Wednesday.

What's behind 'shocking' U.S. life expectancy decline-and what to do about it. April 13, 2023 - U.S. life expectancy has declined to 76.4 years, the shortest it's been in nearly two decades, according to December data from the CDC.

Novichok
9 Jun 2023  #728

Washington banned Kiev from signing truce with Moscow - Russian security chief
Prolonging violence in Ukraine at any cost is in the interest of the US, Nikolay Patrushev has claimed


Nikolay Patrushev, one of Russia's senior security officials, has accused the US and the UK of standing in the way of peace. Unlike the peoples of Russia and Ukraine, the two English-speaking countries are interested in prolonging the violence and do not care about human suffering, he alleged.

"I can identify the nations that are most interested [in continued hostilities] - they are the US and England," he said on Thursday during a press conference in Belarus. "And one should clearly realize that they do not care about people dying, because it's not their people, they are not waging the war on their own soil."


Which is exactly what I said here already. Novichok - a PF genius...

It's not us so let them die...Simple.

Novichok
9 Jun 2023  #729

The Ukrainian military has suffered "significant" casualties in its faltering attempt to mount a counteroffensive against Russian forces, US officials told CNN on Thursday. While Kiev has kept quiet about its losses, Moscow estimates that the offensive has already cost Ukraine almost 5,000 lives.

Before you jump screaming RT!!! please notice "US officials told CNN".

...and a comment the author should be proud of:

Zelensky, if you knew that "a large number of soldiers will die" during the operation, that makes you a conscious mass murderer. Not one person would have to die had you simply implemented the Minsk agreement

I couldn't put it any better. Actually, I did...many times...

Novichok
9 Jun 2023  #730

The White House is not sure who blew up the dam but that didn't stop PF experts from being absolutely and positively sure that it was Russia - following the tried and proven method: When it doubt, blame Russia.

Velund
9 Jun 2023  #731

Not one person would have to die had you simply implemented the Minsk agreement

And then what do all these highly respected shareholders of the military-industrial complex would get? An offer to suck a dead donkey's dick?

cms neuf
9 Jun 2023  #732

It is amazing that you quote official Udmurtian statistics - you know full well what happens to an official there who puts an inconvenient number on his superior's desk ?

And that is one of the things Ukraine is fighting against

johnny reb
9 Jun 2023  #733

Putin plans on deploying tactical nuclear weapons in Belarus next month.
Looks like he is getting serious now.

AntV
9 Jun 2023  #734

Looks like he is getting serious now

I'd say he's been serious even before now. Reducing towns to rubble for a year is pretty serious.

cms neuf
9 Jun 2023  #735

That would be insane - when Lukashenko is overthrown, the new democratic govt will just hand those weapons to Ukraine.

johnny reb
9 Jun 2023  #736

Reducing towns to rubble for a year is pretty serious.

Reducing Russia's economy to rubble is pretty serious too.

Bratwurst Boy
9 Jun 2023  #737

the new democratic govt will just hand those weapons to Ukraine.

I hope they don't and keep them. Giving up their own nukes was Ukraine's biggest error, as it found out now!

A democratic Belorussia would become the new front state...they will need all weapons they can get!

Novichok
9 Jun 2023  #738

A democratic Belorussia

Please don't use "democratic" in this context. Nobody here knows what it is or how to define it. When they do, the definition is idiotic,

Here is an improved version of your sentence:

A pro-Western and hostile to Russia Belorussia would become the new front state.
It will need all the weapons they can get from the warmongering US and UK to keep the conflict going.


There...much better...

Bratwurst Boy
9 Jun 2023  #739

When they do, the definition is idiotic,

Okay, what about that:

Leaders can regularly kicked out of office through open elections....

Could you accept that definition? :)

A pro-Western and hostile to Russia Belorussia

Pro-Western of course....doesn't need to be hostile to an equally pro-western Russia....what about that? :)

AntV
9 Jun 2023  #740

Reducing Russia's economy to rubble is pretty serious too.

So we agree, Putin has been serious all along.

Novichok
9 Jun 2023  #741

Leaders can regularly kicked out of office through open elections....

I will accept on-demand immediate recalls. Wating 3 years and 11 months is not democracy - just as staying in jail that long after a not guilty verdict is not freedom.

Bobko
9 Jun 2023  #742

Guys, guys! I'm so excited!

What do you see in the pictures below?

For context:

1) Ukraine seems to be using all its might to... reach the Russian first line of defense. In other words, on day 5 of this glorious offensive, Ukraine is still fighting along the skirmishing line. The dragon's teeth everyone was laughing about are still kilometers ahead of them, as are the trenches, and anti-tank ditches. So far Ukraine is having a great time "exploring" the mine fields positioned at the front.

2) With torched Bradleys and Leopards, nobody can continue to insist that this is some kind of "shaping"/"probing" operation. Ukraine threw its best into battle, and they fell flat on their face.


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Bratwurst Boy
9 Jun 2023  #743

....did they proofed the images before? Just asking....

Bobko
9 Jun 2023  #744

It appears that whoever planned this Ukrainian counteroffensive, attended the Gerasimov Academy of Torching Armor Columns.

I don't think even we Russians attacked in such beautifully compact columns.

....did they proofed the images before? Just asking...

Yes, you have American generals like Mark Hertling confirming on Twitter. Also analysts like Rob Lee and Michael Kofman. A smattering of articles as well, but this is very recent.


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jon357
9 Jun 2023  #745

In other words, on day 5 of this glorious offensive, Ukraine is still fighting along the skirmishing line

According to ruzzian sources, Ukraine are 17km beyond what was the ruzzian front line and have forward troops 25km beyond as of last night.

The reality is that the orcs are panicking and the media are already preparing their citizens for a humiliating defeat.

t.me/volyamedia/686
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Bobko
9 Jun 2023  #746

Ukraine are 17km beyond what was the ruzzian front line and have forward troops 25km beyond as of last night

Ho-ho-ho-ho! Proof please. A map from your craziest NATO troll on Twitter will do, since not even the crazies have posted a single such map. Please?

Thank you for the link. Attaching the maps from your link below. To be clear - what the author did is use a green highlighter on a "Deep State" map. The red-tinted lines are Russian lines. It's plain to see they've barely moved. I can drawn green lines like that to. "Deep State" is not super accurate typically, but in this case they are representing the facts on the ground more or less truthfully. You guy just used Microsoft paint to make some hopeful lines deep inside what Deep State claims as Russian.


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Bratwurst Boy
9 Jun 2023  #747

A smattering of articles as well, but this is very recent.

BILD should know it first....

*keeps an eye out for the german media*

mafketis
9 Jun 2023  #748

not even the crazies have posted a single such map

it is not in the interests of Ukraine or its supporters to publish detailed maps of where the army is and isn't....

it is in the interests of the fascist invaders (russia) and its supporters (aka 'scum of the earth') to create a lot of noise and distraction and like in order to create chaos because that's what russia does... it's a creator of chaos at home and abroad (and then wonders why things don't work... or convince themselves to not wonder why russia is such a dump).

it will be weeks before a clear picture of what's happening emerges, the sober-minded would be well-advised to ignore the russian liars (which is all of them here).

Novichok
9 Jun 2023  #749

it is not in the interests of Ukraine or its supporters to publish detailed maps of where the army is and isn't....

You are so right since the Russian army relies exclusively on Twitter to know where the enemy is. God forbid some Urocrat posted the real thing...

Those cheap bastards...spent all the money on Gagarin's flight and can't afford a decent satellite with a smartphone on it with a 720 by 480 resolution.

Bobko
9 Jun 2023  #750

@mafketis

Maf, you are a serious person, with some small ability in mathematics. Think about what you wrote, and how it can be true:

1) If you lose 10-15 tanks, 30-40 IFVs, and a handful of AD systems every day - how long could this continue?

2) If a decision is made that "we need to pull back, regroup, and rethink this" - sure, it could easily be weeks, or even months. But what will the reaction of the West be, that treat this as some kind of spectator sport unfolding on Twitter and the pages of the Times? Does Ukraine realistically even have this option, given how the high the stakes have been heaped on this offensive?

3) If Ukraine decides to keep hammering at the front until it finds a weak spot, and then pours all of its available reserves into the breach for further exploitation in depth - then we cannot be talking about weeks. We are now talking about 10-15 days maximum, before the machine will simply run out of steam.

3) The history of nearly all large offensives is that of "the longest day". The opening stages of an offensive set the tone and pace for everything that follows. This offensive has had a decidedly poor "opening".


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