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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 6



Novichok
11 Jun 2023  #811

Ukrainian forces have lost up to 1,240 troops and 39 tanks during one 24-hour period, the Russian Ministry of Defense reported in its latest daily update on Friday. This adds to the heavy toll Moscow claims Kiev suffered during a week when it is believed to have launched a long-expected counteroffensive against Russia.

I disagree. Only Russia has losses. Ukraine never has any losses and is winning...

Velund
11 Jun 2023  #812

Only Russia has losses.

These illiterate and drunken bastards can't read that he's already dead and keep fighting like they're alive. ;) And the missile depots have been empty for months now, but they don't know that and are launching them by the hundreds... ;)

jon357
11 Jun 2023  #813

the Russian Ministry of Defense reported in its latest daily update on Friday

Do ruzzian 'government' spokespeople ever lie.

And has ruzzia ever admitted any wrongdoing?

Remember that with ruzzia, the worse things are going for them, the more they lie.

It's good to read the actual news. As predicted, it's a long hard slog for Ukraine, however they are currently progressing better than they expected and things are going very badly indeed for ruzzia.

jon357
11 Jun 2023  #814

Plenty of encouraging news today (though not encouraging for orcs). Two of the brightest points (among many) are that Ukraine have made strong progress overnight and that there is currently fighting in Melitopol between Ukrainians there and the ruzzian occupiers.

Ukraine has the initiative and we shall see how successful their offensive will be. And recent experience gives us hope since:

Ruzzia lost the battle of Kyiv,

Ruzzia lost the battle of Kharkiv,

Ruzzia lost the battle of Kherson,

Ruzzia lost the battle of Snake Island - and their flagship too,

Ruzzia lost the energy war with Europe to force them to stop supporting Ukraine,

Ruzzia lost the battle to prevent NATO expansion,

Ruzzia lost the infrastructure war to break the morale of the Ukrainian people,

They did manage to occupy - after nine months of blood - a few acres of rubble in Bakhmut, but they needed mercenary convicts to do that and are currently encircled there.

Velund
11 Jun 2023  #815

there is currently fighting in Melitopol between Ukrainians there and the ruzzian occupiers.

You have been deceived. The fighting is taking place in Moscow now. Ukrainian troops are standing on the Leningrad highway in short skirts by the roadside bushes, and having negotiated a price they are going to fight the occupants in their apartments. ;)

mafketis
11 Jun 2023  #816

Only Russia has losses.

According to russian state media that's because Ukrainians don't feel pain because they're undead....

twitter.com/VladaKnowlton/status/1667722392481955841

And the head of RT Margarita "total information control" Simonyan, after saying she was sick of lies everywhere.... lies.... (what? how could that be?) it's almost as if russians have trouble acknowledging reality (or are driven insane by it.... it's a horse apiece)

twitter.com/VladaKnowlton/status/1627538001181179904

jon357
11 Jun 2023  #817

You have been deceived

Has ruzzia ever admitted wrongdoing and has their state media ever told the truth?

And the head of RT Margarita "total information control" Simonyan,

One thing she can't control is satellite images. And there are some very pretty ones of the ruzzian radar installations in a part of Ukraine they're temporarily occupying (Crimea) which have been nicely destroyed.

GefreiterKania
11 Jun 2023  #818

The fighting is taking place in Moscow now.

Russia had two major objectives in this war regarding Ukraine:

1. Demilitarisation.
2. Denazification.

Ad 1. Ukraine has become one of the most militarised countries in the world, with equipment worth tens of billions of dollars - that they could only dream of having before - now in Ukrainian hands.

Ad 2. Tolerance for banderist and neo-nazi, Waffen-SS Galizien glorifying, scum has increased exponentially in Ukraine.

Well done, Russia. Well f*cking done - brilliant objectives accomplishing there. *rolls eyes*

mafketis
11 Jun 2023  #819

Tolerance for banderist and neo-nazi

bandera was a minor figure never involved in any actual government and inflated by russia to distract from russian crimes and neo-nazi feeling in Ukraine is much smallter than in russia itself (remember lots of pictures of supposed Ukrainian neo-nazis were actually taken in russia).

but in modern russia, 'nazi' just means someone who opposes some aspect of russian policy, so.... in that light yeah, Ukraine is more nazi than ever.....

GefreiterKania
11 Jun 2023  #820

bandera was a minor figure

That's debatable, to say the least, but let's - for the sake of argument - assume he was. What about UPA itself then? One of the most genocidal formations in the world's history? What about SS Galizien - another bunch of genocidal anti-semite sickf*cks responisble for horrendous atrocities against Jews and Poles? Were they too inflated by Russia? What about their monuments, stadiums and street names - did Russia ordered that?

You see, I already wrote about it here - but maybe you missed it - my maternal grandfather was a Volhynia survivor, one of very few (Ukrainians were very meticulous in their genocide but apart from German order they also introduced to their genocide some animal cruelty that would make even most fierce SS-men blush). So, I know straight from his mouth what exactly UPA was and was or wasn't "inflated" by Russia.

The anniversary of Volhynia Genocide is coming. I will be recommending great books, new insights into the genocide studies and some general tips for those who would like to whitewash the UPA animals and their commanders. Watch this space.

Korvinus
11 Jun 2023  #821

I love Ruskies arguments - "But- but we killed less people than they did! Why aren't you on our side?"

If you ignore 120k from the NKVD "Polish Operation", 2,7 millions sent to Syberia and Kazakhstan in cattle cars, 30k Polish soldiers murdered after the war ended and they were promised amnesty and another 50k that died in work camps, then yes- Soviets murdered the least Poles.

GefreiterKania
11 Jun 2023  #822

arguments - "But- but we killed less people than they did! Why aren't you on our side? (...) then yes- Soviets murdered the least Poles

Who's making that argument? With whom are you arguing?

jon357
11 Jun 2023  #823

we killed less people

Fewer people.

And both entities were murderous in different ways. It isn't a competition about who were more and who were less evil of course unfortunately the far right do use that particular bit of whataboutery to try to excuse fascist crimes by Germany in WW2, almost as if they're trying to create a binary that doesn't exist.

Novichok
11 Jun 2023  #824

Ad 1. Ukraine has become one of the most militarised countries in the world, with equipment worth tens of billions of dollars

When did the US start shipping billions in military hardware to Ukraine?

Bobko
11 Jun 2023  #825

What about SS Galizien

They were amazing at terrorizing civilian Jewish and Polish populations. Best in the world.

However, in just under a week of its first contact with elements of the 1st Ukrainian Front under Marshall Konev - the 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS failed in an counterattack attempt, then was encircled, and finally annihilated (some small remnants tried to reform in Slovakia).

GefreiterKania
11 Jun 2023  #826

@Bobko

Fair play to Marshal Konev. Typical also for UPA - great at murdering civilians, but at fighting against Red Army or LWP, not so much.

Alien
11 Jun 2023  #827

1st Ukrainian Front

You're right, the Ukrainians are good soldiers to this day.

Novichok
11 Jun 2023  #828

The difference between you, Russia-hating idiots, and me could not be any clearer. Your only objective is to show your contempt for human life - but only on one side - while enjoying your so very safe distance from what you cheer for. The dying Ukrainian men don't even make it to your list. Only occasionally babies and women, but never if in Iraq.

Where is your indignation about Z-hole and his Western enablers? What are the limits in deaths, suffering, and destruction beyond which Z becomes a war criminal?

To you, Russia-hating idiots, all is fine if Russia suffers. As is the case with the DC warmongers, nothing else matters. It's just another soccer match and another billion in profits.

How big is your screen and how wide is your grin when good men die...

Ironside
11 Jun 2023  #829

Hating Russia is a sign of wisdom and sanity. Good men fighting for Russia are either not that good or are idiots.

cms neuf
11 Jun 2023  #830

We don't have any indignation for Zelensky because he is doing his job - leading his nation against an unprovoked invasion by drunk rapists.

No, I don't really care if Udmurtia suffers - they started the war and need to be defeated in such a way that they won't start more. I know some Udmurtians oppose it and I salute their bravery, but most of the population either support it or are trying to forget about it.

Novichok
11 Jun 2023  #831

Zelensky because he is doing his job

...of a useful DC idiot.

How many more dead Ukrainians will it take for the rest of the world to say enough?

Let's start with you...How about it, my dear brave cymes...Give me your number. You can round it off to the nearest 10,000.

mafketis
11 Jun 2023  #832

How many more dead Ukrainians will it take for the rest of the world to say enough?

Just need russia to leave Ukraine and go back to their own miserable country.....

russia has made it clear that it intends to kill large parts of the civilian population anywhere that it takes over (if Bucha, Mariupol and the dam they blew up don't make that clear then you're a lizard - incapable of learning).

the natural thing to do in that case is to keep fighting.

cms neuf
11 Jun 2023  #833

It's not up to the world to say "enough". Only Ukraine can decide - it is their country and they obviously don't want to give any of it away to alcoholic murderers

Novichok
11 Jun 2023  #834

Just need russia to leave Ukraine and go back to their own miserable country.....

...the day after NATO goes back to where it was in 1990 when the snake lost the reason to exist.

While I have your attention, my brave kutasek, how many dead Ukrainians are too many in your opinion?

To make it really easy on you, you can round it off to the nearest 100,000.

It's not up to the world to say "enough".

Yes, it is. By pouring gasoline, the world is complicit and criminally liable just as I would be by supplying a gun to a nut on a killing spree.

mafketis
11 Jun 2023  #835

how many dead Ukrainians are too many in your opinion?

Not my choice to make.

when the snake lost the reason to exist.

Obviously NATO (only seen as a snake by other snakes) still has plenty of reason to exist, just ask Finland and Sweden.

you blame everyone but the russians for the killing and destruction in Ukraine but they're the only responsible party.

Why do you worship russia?

cms neuf
11 Jun 2023  #836

But Ukraine are not "nuts" and they are not on a killing spree - they are defending their homes and families from rapists.

mafketis
11 Jun 2023  #837

they are defending their homes and families from rapists

but novi thinks they just need to put their homes in the rapists' names and everything will be fine!

he also thinks the rapists were pushed into to it because they wanted to have a burglar alarm....

Novichok
11 Jun 2023  #838

Not my choice to make.

I didn't ask for your choice because "choice" means that you can control things, kutasek.
I ask for your opinion on how many more Ukrainians should die for YOU to say it's too many.

you blame everyone but the russians for the killing and destruction in Ukraine

Russians wanted to meet in April 2022 and talk. The DC warmongers said no and Zwhore obeyed.
See how simple things are?

mafketis
11 Jun 2023  #839

ussians wanted to meet in April 2022 and talk

sources for this odd claim? and why should Ukraine agree to let russia invade and chop off part of the country any time it wants?

russia has made it clear (not on RT but on russian state media) that the goal is the destruction of the entire country.... why would they want to 'talk'?

why would anyone with a triple digit IQ trust russia to abide by any agreement?

why give russia the benefit of a doubt?

Another example of russian lies.... which you continue to believe....

twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1558544508404617222

Novichok
11 Jun 2023  #840

ANKARA, April 22 (Reuters) - Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan said on Friday he was planning to hold phone calls with his Russian and Ukrainian counterparts in the coming days, adding that he hoped the calls could lead to a leaders' meeting in Turkey to end the Russia-Ukraine war.

NATO member Turkey shares a martime border with Ukraine and Russia in the Black Sea, has good ties with both, and has taken a mediating role. It has hosted talks between the Ukrainian and Russian foreign ministers in Antalya, and negotiators from both countries in Istanbul, while pushing for a leaders' meeting.

"We are not without hope," Erdogan told reporters when asked about the peace talks between Kyiv and Moscow. "Our friends will get in touch with them today, we plan to hold a call again with (Russian President Vladimir) Putin and (Ukrainian President Volodymyr) Zelenskiy today or tomorrow," he said.

"With the calls, we plan to carry the process in Istanbul to the leaders' level," he added.


Now you can google why the meeting didn't take place on your own. A hint: Because the DC mother-fu*cking warmongers saw the opportunity to make big bucks in Ukraine go bye-bye...

No war = no bank deposits. Duh! A bonus: a weakened Russia.

Got it or was it too complicated? No, it was not about "freedom and democracy".


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