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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 6



Bobko
13 Jun 2023  #931

if you think this way about Poles then you clearly don't know anything about us and you don't understand Poles at all.

Explain then, how you mourn Ukraine's dead differently from the West.

jon357
13 Jun 2023  #932

Explain then,

Don't forget the three questions I posed you,

mafketis
13 Jun 2023  #933

n why despite the above Russia decided it was prudent to hit that target

cause russians don't think Ukraine should exist and think that Ukrainian who doesn't 'recognize' that they are really russian is the enemy and not human....

twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1668463961501577217

Bobko
13 Jun 2023  #934

@jon357

Same question regarding all 3 mentioned instances.

If your answer is "because Russians are bloodthirsty thugs that revel in the misery of innocents", then I have probably nothing further to discuss with you.

russians don't think Ukraine should exist and think that Ukrainian who doesn't 'recognize' that they are really russian is the enemy and not human

I challenge you to find a single Russian public person, even from among the crazies from TV, that claimed that Ukrainians are subhuman and deserving of death simply for being what they are.

Otherwise, you are battling some kind of straw man which idiots like Galeev created for you on Twitter. I know you are in awe of Galeev, and his intellectual abilities, but let me tell you - I would not sit down at the same table as him for a cup of tea.

Velund
13 Jun 2023  #935

you clearly don't know anything about us and you don't understand Poles at all.

"By their fruit you will recognize them."
(Matthew 7:16)

Paulina
13 Jun 2023  #936

Explain then, how you mourn Ukraine's dead differently from the West.

I didn't write that we mourn differently or whatever. I wrote that I can't speak for Westerners, because I am not a Westerner. And I wrote that, because I think it's pretty obvious that what's happening to Ukraine is far more important for a Pole for many reasons than for an Italian or a Spaniard. And we understand Ukrainians better than people in France or Germany or some distant countries, imho.

"By their fruit you will recognize them."
(Matthew 7:16)

Yes, Velund, exactly. Bobko is crying crocodile tears over Ukrainian soldiers having to go back to tanks even though they have to go back to those tanks because RuSSia invaded Ukraine and Bobko supports this invasion. And, you, Velund, deny Ukraine the right to have their own country, nation, language and culture. So you both can go and f*ck yourselves with your non-existent "empathy" o_O

jon357
13 Jun 2023  #937

If your answer is

I'm interested in yours.

Why commit such egregiously evil acts?
Why kill people fleeing a flood they caused?
Why kill civilians (including whole families) with hands tied behind their backs?
Why fire thermobaric bombshell at a building they knew children were inside?

all.
"By their fruit

And there's some interesting fruits of battle. Despite ruzzia's fake images of old tanks, the actual number of Ukrainian tanks destroyed has been independently verified as fewer than 10. The number of ruzzian tanks (and this does not include other armoured vehicles)? 160. Even Vladolf Putler admitted that 54 had been destroyed.

The desperation from the two orc supporters here shows how badly things are going for ruzzia.

mafketis
13 Jun 2023  #938

a single Russian public person, ... claimed that Ukrainians are subhuman and deserving of death simply for being what they are

I just gave you the link! didn't you even listen?

This sane individual said Ukrainians don't feel pain because they're 'undead'....

twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1667707472969072640

Here's a nice analysis, that could have been based on your posts, she's totally got your number

twitter.com/UkrainianAna/status/1667482290052538368

Bratwurst Boy
13 Jun 2023  #939

Head of RT Margarita Simonyan said that winning this war would be more meaningful than WWII and would be "the biggest feat in Russia's history."

Seriously? Wow!

jon357
13 Jun 2023  #940

Margarita is an idiot that is paid to say what serious people tell her to say.

The head of a (once) major TV station. At least you've admitted that ruzzian officials are paid to lie compulsively.

we may be done for ourselves

That's a given. The r*SSian cancer is being excised from Europe.

I see you've tried to ignore those very simple questions.

Paulina
13 Jun 2023  #941

Do I even have to say more? Velund just compared Ukraine and Ukrainians to cancer. Those sick Putinazis have to be stopped. Period.

Novichok
14 Jun 2023  #942

Velund just compared Ukraine and Ukrainians to cancer.

He was actually very nice.
Cancer kills only the one who has it. The real cancer is the Western warmongers and their NATO snake.

Quoting:

West told us 'to kill as many Russians' as possible - Ukrainian defense minister
Before committing to limitless military aid, Kiev's backers wanted to inflict maximum losses prior to any surrender, Aleksey Reznikov has said


No, Reznikov is not a Putin troll or RT editor.

Novichok
14 Jun 2023  #943

Delegates from over 100 countries to attend St. Petersburg Economic Forum - governor
Russia is ready to host the annual St. Petersburg International Economic Forum (SPIEF 2023) on Wednesday, with thousands of participants expected for the annual event.
Interest in the forum is growing as more countries aim to expand cooperation with Russia, despite Western pressure not to, the governor of St. Petersburg remarked.


Also this:

China and India are buying so much Russian oil that Moscow's now selling more crude than it was before invading Ukraine
India, the world's third-largest oil importer, relied on Russia for about 1% of its total volumes prior to the war, but now buys 51% of its oil from Russia.

Alien
14 Jun 2023  #944

Delegates from over 100 countries to attend St. Petersburg Economic Forum -

Ooooh, they pounced like vultures on the carcass.

mafketis
14 Jun 2023  #945

more russian media hijinx! the russian ministry of defense published info on a 'destroyed' column of Ukrainian tanks... the problem was that the tank they showed was actaully russian....

russians just have no connection with reality.... so sad....

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1668730744997330944

mafketis
14 Jun 2023  #946

In good news for nervous goats..... number two Chechen Delimkhanov has been injured (according to russian official info) or killed (according to Ukrainian sources).

Head Chechen is worried that Delimkhanov isn't answering his calls and asks for info from Ukraine about just where they struck.... (Primorsk area)

twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1668911534184038403

In other news, I recently found out that from the Chechen point of view... THEY won the second Chechen war, moskva pays them vast amounts of money in tribute and they don't have to follow russian laws in Chechnia..... in return, don, for pretending, don, to be loyal russian citizens they get their own, don, Islamic mini-caliphate and russia can't do a thing about it....

jon357
14 Jun 2023  #947

West told us 'to kill as many Russians' as possible - Ukrainian defense minister
Before committing to limitless military aid, Kiev's backers wanted to inflict maximum losses prior to any surrender, Aleksey Reznikov has said

The full quote from the article is:

At first, Western aid was sharply curtailed. "We asked, 'Can we have Stingers?'" Ukrainian Minister of Defense Oleksii Reznikov recounted. "We were told, 'No, dig trenches and kill as many Russians as you can before it's over.' People thought our victory was impossible.

Entirely reasonable...

Bratwurst Boy
14 Jun 2023  #948

German contribution to NATO financing will increase by more than 20 percent in 2023

spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/nato-deutscher-beitrag-zur-finanzierung-steigen-2023-um-mehr-als-20-prozent-a-2ea75164-9965-4688-b9f1-67ce19db588b

NATO's overall budget is increasing. The member states have to pay in more - including Germany. This year, the German contribution will increase by a good 90 million euros. ...

Still....I would say the wallet is not so much the real problem....see:

Germany Moves to Buy Israeli Anti-Missile Shield for $4.3B

thedefensepost.com/2023/06/14/germany-israeli-anti-missile-shield-2/

The German government has asked lawmakers to approve an advance payment for the purchase of the sophisticated Arrow 3 air-defense system from Israel for nearly four billion euros ($4.3 billion), according to documents seen by AFP on Tuesday.

The long-range Arrow 3 system, designed to shoot down missiles above the Earth's atmosphere, is powerful enough to offer protective cover for neighboring European Union states.....


I like israeli military stuff....tried and tested and still kicking a**!

GefreiterKania
14 Jun 2023  #949

powerful enough to offer protective cover for neighboring European Union states

Cool :) Fair play to Germany. We put the troops/tanks on the ground to make the land shield and you have our backs with missile defence. It would be difficult for every country to build-up every defensive aspect so it makes sense for our forces to complement each other.

Bratwurst Boy
14 Jun 2023  #950

We put the troops/tanks on the ground to make the land shield and you have our backs with missile defence

Remember "Germolia"? :)

*runs*

GefreiterKania
14 Jun 2023  #951

Remember "Germolia"? :)

How could I forget? :)

*high five*

jon357
14 Jun 2023  #952

a 'destroyed' column of Ukrainian tanks... the problem was that the tank they showed was actaully russian....

They're supposed to have destroyed some Leopards and Abrams however the number is unclear; certainly fewer than the orcs say.

No Challenger II tanks destroyed of course and the foul orc 'general' who together with all his staff officers was repurposed as atoms to be recycled was sorted with a Storm Shadow.

Let's hope we can keep the supplies coming.

Bratwurst Boy
14 Jun 2023  #953

Update:

Germany can start purchasing a missile defense shield: the budget committee released a first tranche of 560 million euros for the purchase of the Arrow 3 system in Israel on Wednesday in Berlin, according to the committee. The total cost of the protective shield should amount to four billion euros. The committee also approved around 950 million euros for the purchase of six German-made Iris T SLM air defense systems.

spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/haushaltsausschuss-gibt-erste-gelder-fuer-kauf-von-raketenschutzschirm-aus-israel-frei-a-15d00f13-233e-47a0-97c5-060b67b97164

The federal government is aiming to conclude a binding contract with Israel for the purchase of Arrow 3 by the end of 2023. The system should be operational in Germany by the end of 2025....

Could that be a game changer?

....The Arrow missile defense typically comprises the top layer of Israel's missile defense system, consisting of the long-range Arrow-3 missiles and the Iron Dome short-range rocket interceptor. The Arrow-3, for one, can reach and destroy any non-conventional warhead at a safe altitude.

Unlike the missile defense systems like the Patriot in Germany's arsenal, the Arrow-3 is designed to intercept ballistic missiles outside the Earth's atmosphere. The deployment of the system in Western Europe will give a unique capability to the region, according to military experts.....


eurasiantimes.com/driver-by-russia-ukraine-war-germany-reportedly/

Germany is the very first customer for that "Iron Dome" outside of Israel....I hope we know what we are doing!

Ironside
14 Jun 2023  #954

WoWow colour me impressed!!
Then again Germans talk a lot but,only do what suit them

jon357
14 Jun 2023  #955

Some good news.

Kadyrov's sidekick, Adam Delimkhanov (described in the media as Kadyrov's right hand man) has been killed by a Storm Shadow missile, presumably one of those sent recently from the U.K.

Excellent ent news and anything that hurts Kadyrov and demoralises orcs can only be good.

" Mr Delimkhanov, who previously posed among the war-damaged remains of Mariupol at the end of the two-month-long siege to take it, has long been considered one of the most dangerous men in Chechnya"

telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/06/14/chechen-mp-missing-after-missile-strikes-adam-delimkhanov/

The more orc generals repurposed as fresh air the better. Hopefully the Storm Shadows will continue to do their stuff.

Bratwurst Boy
14 Jun 2023  #956

Then again Germans talk a lot but,only do what suit them

Now then it should be fantastic....such an atmospheric shield should help against nearly everything the Russians could throw at central Europe!

I guess Moscow's propagandists talked abit to often and to loudly about "nuking" Berlin....

Kadyrov's sidekick, Adam Delimkhanov

Is that the cousin of his he begged Selensky to find for him?

Ironside
14 Jun 2023  #957

@Bratwurst Boy
Pow,pow zip... master blaster beams of laser vapoursing Russian missiles and drones, here come Schult, riding on a rainbow 🌈 coloured unicorn, dazzling all the local tribes of Eastern Europe ...

jon357
14 Jun 2023  #958

Is that the cousin of his he begged Selensky

President Zelensky?

No, I don't think that's the cousin in question. They may well be cousins however as far as I know he wasn't a PoW in Ukraine. In a way it's a shame he wasn't taken since he would have been useful as leverage.

And now, he's a crater in the mud.

Bratwurst Boy
14 Jun 2023  #959

dazzling all the local tribes of Eastern Europe

Heh:)

And now, he's a crater in the mud.

Yeah....he should had better stayed home!

Korvinus
14 Jun 2023  #960

ndia, the world's third-largest oil importer, relied on Russia for about 1% of its total volumes prior to the war, but now buys 51% of its oil from Russia.

Yes! Sell it all to India for rupees. And don't forget to grant them a massive discount while you're at it! We'll just buy all these resources from India later, at the same time bolstering a future rival and enemy of China.

Buying all that Russian oil for prices well below limits set by the West, paying with almost useless rupees, and then reselling oil for profit, which stays in Indian coffers.

This is what Putin's actions reduced Russia to - being the sponsor of India's marvelous profits. Btw, India is consistently reducing its weapon purchases in Russia and turning towards the American MIC.


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