Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 6

As far as I know the African bodyguards were trying to bring in unregistered weapons. A fishy affair altogether. One can never be too careful.

Sprinkle vinegar and salt on them.

Their main interest is that they continue to collect bribes and spend some more pleasant evenings with Udmurtian hookers. No other explanation for why they think civilized nations like Ukraine should negotiate with Nazi aggressors.

Four possibilities listed below.

1. They didn't arrange things with the Polish embassy in Pretoria (though I doubt that would matter in the scheme of things) and the Polish government is being petulant.

2. As the South Africans are suggesting, there's an element of racism.

3.The Polish authorities (or others) have concerns about how they may use those weapons or had some other intelligence that led to this. This is close to what Maf mentioned.

4. The Polish authorities (or others) are angry about Putler's forthcoming visit to South Africa.

Are there any other possible explanations? It's certainly a strange situation and has made the news in a lot of countries.

Here's an article explaining the situation in detail:

wiadomosci.wp.pl/delegacja-rpa-utknela-w-warszawie-mowia-o-sabotazu-polska-strona-tlumaczy-6909584688831040a

It was the second plane of the delegation that got stuck in Warsaw, the first with president Ramaphosa flew to Ukraine. This second plane had around 100 people on board - additional bodyguards/security of the president, journalists and... 12 containers of weapons without the permit to bring it into the EU. Also, there were some people on board that the Polish side wasn't informed about beforehand (that's the info from Polish Border Guard).

President Ramaphosa and other African leaders visited Bucha:

tvn24.pl/swiat/ukraina-prezydent-rpa-i-inni-afrykanscy-przywodcy-odwiedzili-bucze-7178055

Maybe one of the 100 had been identified as an Udmurtian asset. Too risky to have them casing out the Presidential palace

Hmm.


Ho-ho-ho!


Aha.

Poor South Africans.

@Bobko
The matter is very simple, in the past Europeans sold rifles for gold and diamonds to Africans and now Africans sell rifles for gold and diamonds to russia. Hmm, russia is now soooooooooooooooooooo far behind Africa (like Maf would say).

russians acting all.... russiany again, posting videos on social media of their attacks on those rescuing civilians and animals from the effects of the flood they caused by blowing up the dam....

twitter.com/frontlinekit/status/1669458340693385217

russian mir.... lowest of the low, vilest of the vile, the worst people on the planet....

The true face of russia...... it's like the whole country is dedicated to shedding its humanity....

CW: war crimes involving sexual mutilation...

archive.is/2023.06.17-184144/thetimes.co.uk/article/4561e12a-0d14-11ee-aa7c-6e26d8c3ad9b

@mafketis
A very good letter in today's Observer about ruzzian collective psychopathy, written by a psychologist or psychiatrist who studies this. He's commenting on the article by Pomarantsev.

Here's a quote from it.

" The Putin phenomenon is an example ....... "the scourge", that is, a perverse morality that imposes on those who subscribe to it the moral or religious duty to clean up society"

It has a lot of insights into the way Putler thinks and compares him to other individuals and groups. 1930s and 1940s Germany is mentioned and is an easy comparison. I'd add the Khmer Rouge, Peron, Huda Ben Ahmed and a few others. They probably believe they are absolutely right and ruzzia'a orcs join in with that emotionless killing.

theguardian.com/theobserver/commentisfree/2023/jun/18/understanting-the-scourge-that-is-vladimir-putin-letters?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

@jon357
Very well observed and pointed out. One of the key elements of supporters of NSDAP and similar groups behaving in similar fashion is obsession with fighting "disgust"

Their view of society or groups as a body that needs to be cleaned of unwanted elements "name any undesired group or enemy"

It's one thing to clean one's own house and body, totally another to do it on to society due to the complexity of human nature and needs and behaviour.

It has been proven time and again in history that one setup for all does not work in the long run.

Quoting:

Moscow acted correctly in moving Ukrainian children - Putin
The minors were evacuated from combat zones, the Russian leader explained

"We were moving them out of the conflict zone, saving their lives - this is what's been happening," Putin said on Saturday during a meeting with a group of African leaders in St. Petersburg. He added that "nobody intended to separate the children from their families."

"We evacuated entire orphanages, and did so absolutely legally because the heads of these orphanages were their [legal] representatives," Putin said.

In March, the International Criminal Court (IOC) issued arrest warrants for Putin and Russia's Children's Rights Commissioner Maria Lvova-Belova on charges of "unlawful deportation and transfer" of children from Ukraine. Russia is not a party to the IOC's Rome Statute and, therefore, does not recognize the jurisdiction of The Hague-based court.

The original text of "does not recognize the jurisdiction of The Hague-based court" was: "GFY, you Western hypocrites".

How did it become a 'conflict zone' again?

Hypothetical: A pedophile sets a house on fire. Then he runs in to 'rescue' the children and then takes them to a secret location where he takes his.... reward.....

For novi, he's a hero because he saved the kids from the fire....

The same way as Iraq became a conflict zone where Western scum went looking for the nukes the bastards knew didn't exist.

Your inability to discuss the russian invasion without dragging in irrelevant cases like Iraq (incredibly stupid and wrong of the US) and Vietnam (same) is very odd....

We agree that US involvement in Iraq and Vietnam were wrong, yet you seem unable to muster the moral courage to criticize putain and his insane war.... why is that?

You can't justify it on its own and say stupid things about NATO although cultural insiders (who know russia far better than you) all agree NATO and the like were very minor reasons next the big reason: russians don't think Ukraine should exist as a country and want to destroy it for the sake of destroying it.

When you and other Russia haters here start comparing Russia "war crimes" to the US war crimes that went unpunished I will stop "dragging".

Russia at least has reasons to invade Ukraine. (See Yugoslavia and NATO crimes there). The US had none to invade Iraq but still did it and had a million Iraqis killed as a result.

So take this post to your High Moral Ground and tell me how the other Russia-hating idiots there reacted.

What does Yuvoslavia and NATO have to do with Ukraine?

Quoting RT:

Ukraine sustains massive single-day losses - Russian MOD
Kiev's forces have lost over 1,000 soldiers and 20 tanks in a single day across the frontlines, the Russian Defense Ministry claims

Hey, RT, I don't believe one word of it. Only the Guardian, CNN, and PF Russia haters tell the truth.

Hey, BB, I am posting this video thinking about you and Germany...
youtu.be/wS0kWzxlMiM

What 'NATO crimes'?

*I swear I felt that:)*

But till 1.30 min he answered this own question.....'nuff said actually!

Not even mentioned that a european country was attacked, invaded.....a neighbour....

Ukraine to establish English as language of international communication (instead of russian? it had that status at one point)....

babel.ua/en/news/95251-the-english-language-will-receive-international-status-in-ukraine

Novi will love it but russians will seethe.....

If there is one country Germany should not be afraid of is Russia and vice versa. If there is one country Germany should not help against Russia it is Ukraine.

Jointly, as allies, Germany and Russia should have been patrolling the Baltic and keeping the US-sponsored saboteurs away from the pipe.

....actually everything points to ukrainian saboteurs....and the US tried to warn Kiev:

spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/nordstream-cia-warnte-ukraine-vor-anschlagsplaenen-a-c944da91-3138-42e8-b6f1-fdd2bf127e05

It's an article from 13.06. and paid content so I copy/paste a translation here:

Blow up of the Baltic Sea pipelines

CIA warns Ukraine of attack plans

Were the Nord Stream pipelines destroyed by a commando from Ukraine? According to reports, the American secret service warned Kiev about the act of sabotage - in fact, the evidence is growing. ....

In June 2022 , the US secret service Central Intelligence Agency ( CIA ) Ukraine urgently warned not to attack the two Nord Stream pipelines with an act of sabotage. This is the result of research by the ARD capital studio, the ARD political magazine »Contraste«, the SWR, the weekly newspaper »Die Zeit« and the Dutch television NOS/Nieuwsuur.

According to the media, the information is based on sources in several countries. The CIA declined to comment on the matter when asked by the media. The facts were also confirmed to SPIEGEL.

Both pipelines exploded at the end of September. was publicly Two strands of Nord Stream 1 were interrupted, one of Nord Stream 2. In the immediate aftermath of the explosions, Russia accused of being responsible for the attacks.

According to reports, the Dutch military intelligence service MIVD had initial indications of a possible attack by a command from Ukraine, so it was about knowledge of an attack plan on the Nord Stream 1 pipeline. According to the MIVD, this should take place in June 2022, using a rented boat . According to the reports, the Dutch shared their information with other states, including Germany. The CIA, in turn, is said to have taken this as an opportunity to warn the Ukrainian secret service against realizing such a plan.

In the investigations into the bomb attacks on the Nord Stream gas pipelines in the Baltic Sea, the evidence of Ukrainian perpetrators has recently increased. According to SPIEGEL information, the metadata of an e-mail that was sent when the sailing yacht Andromeda, which was allegedly used to transport the explosives , was rented , leads to Ukraine.

Found underwater explosives

To this day, there are numerous speculations about possible perpetrators, including accusations against American intelligence services in cooperation with Norwegian authorities. There is also repeated talk of a so-called false flag operation by Russia. Among those familiar with the process, this is considered extremely unlikely. Behind the scenes, it was even said early on that Moscow had no real motive for the crime.

Z and his guys will not fart without first clearing it with Washington so I will never believe that Z acted against what he was told not to do.

Quoting dailymail.com:

Putin's suicide tank attack: Russia packs T-54 with six tons of explosives and remotely drives it at Ukrainian soldiers in terrifying new ISIS-style tactic - as Kyiv is forced to 'pause' counter-offensive

Ukraine's much-anticipated counter-offensive has yielded a mixed response
It's understood the domination of Russia in the air is proving a major setback
Russia is also resorting to suicide tanks in a bid to restrict Ukrainian advances

The terrifying experiment of kamikaze drones and suicide tanks comes amid Volodymyr Zelensky pausing his counter to avoid huge losses after Russian helicopters helped destroy dozens of Western armored vehicles, The Wall Street Journal reports.

Before you start gloating, please keep in mind that "suicide tanks" is not the same as suicide Russians so save that beer for a better occasion.

Also, notice the source. No, it's not RT.

"The South African authorities reacted to the scandal with the detention of the plane in Poland. According to the Sunday Times, Warsaw detained the plane in an attempt to secure the release of the murderer of Chris Hani, the general secretary of South Africa's ruling African National Congress Party.

According to the newspaper, Hani was killed in 1993 by Janusz Walus, an ethnic Pole. He was sentenced to life imprisonment. "

He had already served his time, they were going to release him anyway.