Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 6

I'm less interested in who than in why... which not that many people are talking about....

Most obvious motive: To wean Germany of any hope of resuming business as usual with russia..... Scholz's waffling indecision early on (and a few other things) made it seem that Germany was hoping for (or at least wouldn't have minded) a quick russian victory so it could apply a few sanctions, go 'Das ist aber nicht gut!" and try to go back to gobbling down russian natural resources...

taking it out took that off the table

I've seen an analysis or two of why russia might want to take it out but nothing hugely convincing so I'm still going with the most obvious motive.

Don't care much who did it, just glad it's gone.

Link?


What kind of bullsh1t is this? :D Janusz Walus been out of prison since the 7th of December 2022 ;D 🤦

why do you pay attention to a russian? you know they lie all the time...


and where is ISIS now?

and it blew up before reaching Ukrainian soldiers....

since novi is too lazy and/or dishonest to post the link:

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12208385/Russians-pack-T-54-explosives-remotely-drive-Ukrainian-soldiers.html

here's video

twitter.com/KremlinTrolls/status/1670547942241968130

sounds to me like a desparation move from a side that's losing....

It was nothing to do with Waluś.

@Velund

Where was your quote from? It mentions the ST for some bizarre reason but wasn't from there ?

Do you ever tell the truth?


Whoever it was, it had to be done.

Hopefully the other pipelines will be blown and never, ever, replaced.

In other news russia misrule in the Ukrainian city of Mariupol has resulted in people dropping like flies....

russkij mir = corruption, theft, violence and death.... those are all that russia has to offer

twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1670655438549929985

In happier news, the russian invading forces had been using the railroad station in the southern Ukraine village of Rykove (110 k from the front) as an ammo depot and logistics center and had collected quite a lot of stuff there....

Yesterday it went *poof* into the air (actually the fires and detonations took five hours after the original hit).

twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1670299844215177216

How many kids moved from a war zone to safety by Russia equals one kid burned alive by an American napalm bomb?

They were building a new center "central mechanical repair plant" in Moscow.... "were" being the operative word, cause today it went up, up, up in a puff of smoke and it ain't no joke, the way it's burning up......

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1670712714920882179


'equal' as in...

How many rotten worm infested heads of cauliflower equal yours sclerotic brain?

... didn't steal Iraqi kids.


So, what you're saying is that - because RuSSians didn't throw napalm on kids, it's OK for them to steal kids and lie to those kids that their parents don't want them anymore? What normal country does that?

Lets' hope that those are just Russian misdirections.

If those allegations are true, then this will be incredible damaging to Ukraine. It will cost them credibility and also likely support if the war drags on, not to mention any financial assistance it might hope for after the war.

If proven true, any time from now on Russia commits an act terrorism like blowing up dams, it can point to this incident and deny responsibility.

Honestly the main reason I still doubt this is because I dont think the Ukrainians would do something so obviously stupid and damaging to their cause.

@Tacitus
Who are you replying to?

Is it something on this page? About the Kahkovka dam?

Parents/family.


But your question is inane.

The answer to your question is one.

If one kid is removed to Udmurtia that is too much

Children are being robbed of normal childhoods by the russian invasion and those being abducted are being robbed of their cultural and linguistic heritage and families and chance at something like a normal life, since life in russia is a nightmare of corruption, theft and violence (esp against the weak).

Their parents are being robbed of the chance to raise their own children.


You have disturbing fantasies... keep them to yourself. No one here is interested in your child death р0rп fetish...

There were no parents. Those kids were in orphanages.


My question was brilliant as it allows you and other Russia haters to place these two crimes on the same scale of 0 to 100, with a napalm bomb burning a screaming child to death vs a child removed where bombs can hurt her to where they cannot.

So, if napalm on a child is 100, where numerically is Russian "kidnapping" to safety?

again with the child death р0rп.... what is wrong with you......

But to play with you (and help you..... finish.....)

Let's say 1/1 equivalence

child killed by napalm / child killed by russian artillery

anyone got numbers?

Let's say a 1/3 correspondence

one child killed by napalm = 3 children abducted by genocidal russian maniacs....

do the math! finish yourself off and change the subject....

Not true. There were also kids with parents or grandparents, etc. I posted an article about this some time ago, etc. Did you read it?

Besides, in case of orphaned children - RuSSia doesn't have the right to keep them either. It's up to the Ukrainian state to decide where to put them - those kids are their responsibility. There were kids from Ukrainian orphanages already evacuated to Poland, for example.


I'm not going to play your stupid games. The fact that Americans did something worse to children in Vietnam years ago won't make the children kidnapped by RuSSia feel any better about being taken away from their parents/family and being told that their parents don't want them anymore, you sick f*ck. It's wrong, illegal, cruel and traumatasing for both kids and parents. If you had any empathy, you would understand that.

I didn't know a screaming kid covered with burning napalm is p*rn in Poland.


We can discuss this later. Now the subject is Putin's arrest warrant for moving Ukrainian kids to safety.

No such warrant was issued for the US president who authorized dropping napalm on kids in Vietnam. So my question is: Under the same international standards of criminality why the difference? Or are there two standards: one for Russia and the other one for Western "democracies"?


I do have sympathy because I was one of them. Thanks to the Germans that took me to the safety of a Hamburg camp - no, those Germans didn't ask my parents for a signed consent - I am alive today. Thanks, guys...

@Novichok, I doubt the American president gave a direct order to soldiers to target children with napalm on Vietnam. While stealing Ukrainian kids is an official policy of the RuSSian state and this state is led by Putin. So it's about legal responsibility for war crimes.

They have no evidence to accuse Putin for other war crimes that RuSSian soldiers are committing, because committing those other war crimes isn't an official policy of the RuSSian government. It would have to be proven that it is. In the case of those kids looking for proof is not necessary, because RuSSia is doing it openly. That's why they can charge Putin.


But later you were returned to your parents, yes? How and when did that happen?

An order to drop napalm on villages does not make the crime any less criminal - based on PF standards.


Yes. We can hate on Russia when Russia refuses to return those kids to their parents.

Sorry, but your response to my comment makes no sense. You asked why the US president wasn't charged for dropping napalm on kids in Vietnam and I gave you the answer - it would have to be proven that the US president gave an order to do this - to drop napalm on kids. If he didn't give such an order, then only those soldiers who committed those war crimes and those who gave the orders could be charged in front of American or an international court.


No, I can already hate RuSSia for lying to those kids that their parents don't want them anymore.

Agreed!

The question is now had it been a ukrainian "commando", independent radicals if you so want....or was Kiev behind it, even against a warning from the US!

Scholz was quite "cool" about Selensky in the beginning....he warmed up to him only very recently.....so I wonder.....

Is it in the water? I never asked that question.


When did you have a chance to listen in? Do you speak Russian?


He got an email from Washington. S is not an idiot if left alone and knows what is good and what is bad for Germany. Give him at least this much credit.

@Novichok, yes, you did ask such a question:



It was in that article I mentioned. Did you read it?


Yes, I do. Do you? lol

BFD! No one cares about your love for russians killing Ukrainians and stealing their children.


It clearly is for you....

Here's something to get you all hot and bothered and panting...

twitter.com/memorialua/status/1669377824682024961

OK. One more time ...


That's a lie. I never asked that question. I asked:


...and:

@Novichok, this is what you stated:


So, because you wrote about "an arrest warrant"- you touched upon the legal aspect.

Then you asked:


And I explained the difference to you.

And again:

The difference is that throwing napalm on kids wasn't an official policy of the United States and there was no evidence of the American president giving an order to throw napalm on kids. While it is an official policy of RuSSia to steal kids from Ukraine, they do it openly and so Putin can be legally held accountable for this in front of a court. Do you get it now?

"Out of prison" is not the same as "free", in this case. And, suddenly, it can be accused in some sort of parole condition violation and put back into cage. ;)

So, there's an arrest warrant for Putin not because stealing kids is "worse" or "as bad" a war crime as throwing napalm on kids, but because Putin can be actually legally held accountable for this.

Of course, it is possible/likely that worse war crimes than "just" stealing kids (for example, quelling the Ukrainian dissent against the RuSSian occupation by "any means necessary" and/or murdering them for just being pro-Ukrainian) were also authorised/ordered by Putin himself, but proving that in front of a court won't be easy, I imagine.

Yes, it was since kids were part of the villages where napalm was officially authorized. Therefore, everybody in the village was a target.
A school shooter making your idiotic argument would be told by his own lawyer to shut the fu*ck up. Your Honor, I didn't specifically try to kill those kids. They were there in my way...