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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 6



Bobko
29 Jun 2023  #1441

Just want to add a further few words regarding missiles strikes on pizzerias.

Though we would have struck the "RIA" pizzeria in Kramatorsk anyway (for economic reasons, as explained in previous post), it was not an unpleasant surprise to discover that there were a great deal of muscular, fatigue-wearing, male Westerners enjoying their meals there at the time of the strike.

Bobko
29 Jun 2023  #1442

@Novichok

In Vietnam, the Viet Cong's recce teams knew how to identify American encampments by the presence of copious amounts of candy wrappers, empty bottles, and cigarette butts.

In Ukraine, the Americans give themselves away by not being able to survive without pizza.

Novichok
29 Jun 2023  #1443

that if the pizzeria cost north of $300K to launch,

Russian should have ordered a dozen before the hit.

Bobko
29 Jun 2023  #1444

@Novichok

Everyone talks about the pizzeria, and no one mentions the adjacent shopping mall (which got flattened), and the other small structure to the side.

The Ukrainian Armed Forces have been using malls extensively throughout the conflict, and from the first days of the war. You can barrack a lot of people in a shopping mall.

GefreiterKania
29 Jun 2023  #1445

It's not Poles...

Guess if Poles give a flying f*ck.

Anyways, is it just me or is this war getting more and more farcical (in a tedious way) recently? It's like the Fry and Laurie barber sketch - funny initially but it got too long and nobody has any idea how to end it. :-/

cms neuf
29 Jun 2023  #1446

The Ukrainians use shopping malls for er...shopping !

I know in Udmurtia that means fighting your neighbor for a bag of sugar, queuing hours for a Vietnamese kettle or exchanging some tokens for 150g of sprats. In Ukraine, families use them to buy clothes and household items and maybe buy an ice cream.

Crnogorac3
29 Jun 2023  #1447

SOUTH AFRICAN MERCENARY BEGS FOR PROPANE TORCHES TO FREE ALL HIS MERC FRIENDS FROM KRAMATORSK RUBBLE

WATCH

bitchute.com/video/gIFSGINqSNjy/

the comments on all these vids are very funny 😁

Z MAN FOREVER
The scumbag zionist communist satan worshiper foreign mercenary filth were in a barracks compound that the Russians decimated. Send in another Kinzal to take this pedophile pedovore kikekoksucker out.

Z MAN FOREVER
I think that you are right. That stupid fvcking terrorist should be back in south Africa exterminating all the nig*ers that are murdering white farmers there.

Korvinus
29 Jun 2023  #1448

"They say we hit pizza place. What casualties we make up today, Ivan Vatnikovich?"
"Uhh, 20 foreign fighters?"
"Good start. I know this guy Novichok on polishforums webpage, will make him happy. But, not impressive enough."
"And 50 officers?"
"Da, now you are talking!"
"And one... two generals!"
"You have beautiful mind, Ivan. Now we bang in closet, ok."

That's not a joke btw, TASS is actually claiming that. :-D
tass.com/politics/1640457

Novichok
29 Jun 2023  #1449

Anyways, is it just me or is this war getting more and more farcical

The farce is that Z is a US wh*re and that he sends his men to death while knowing the final result: No, Ukraine will not be getting CDL back and what's left will never be in NATO.

This makes Z a war criminal.

Korvinus
29 Jun 2023  #1450

No, Ukraine will not be getting CDL back and what's left will never be in NATO.

We're on day 365++ of Putin's 3 day war. Last year, they had the Clown Convoy to Kyiv. It took them 10 months to take the strategically unimportant location of Bakhmut. Russia's just had an almost coup over the weekend. Does it look like Russia's winning? A country with a population 3-times the size of Ukraine should have romper-stomped Ukraine. And at best, they're struggling to hold the land that they have managed to take.

The only way Russia can win is with a complete collapse and capitulation of all of Ukraine's remaining forces - however many that is. That's just as likely as a complete capitulation of Russia's forces. While Ukraine is getting upgraded tanks and equipment supplied by NATO and Russia can't even get tanks from China.

Novichok
29 Jun 2023  #1451

Russia's just had an almost coup over the weekend.

It took the US 20 years to eventually run from Afghanistan and leave billions of mil stuff in the Taliban's hands.

Russia could just as easily level Kiev and kill as many civilians as the US killed in K, V, and A. They have the means and they are "evil" - according to Polish Russia-hating idiots who want to have both ways.

Russia didn't for reasons I will not bother to repeat.

The only way Russia can win is with a complete collapse and capitulation of all of Ukraine's remaining forces

...when the US will conclude that U is a bottomless pit not worth the risks.

Novichok
29 Jun 2023  #1452

Ukraine suffered 'disastrous' losses in single offensive - Forbes
Kiev reportedly lost over 25 tanks and IFVs trying to cross a minefield in Zaporozhye


Hey, Z, ignore the pimp and sign that damn piece of paper already...

Velund
30 Jun 2023  #1453

It took them 10 months to take

... one of locations that was fortified for 8 years almost not counting money spent...

Kiev reportedly lost over 25 tanks and IFVs

Yes, new "Zemledelie" system that allow distant mine laying with capability to "remotely turn on and off" placed mines was unpleasant surprise to NATO military advisors... ;)

Novichok
30 Jun 2023  #1454

system that allow distant mine laying with capability to "remotely turn on and off"

Can I buy a couple of those for my house? Do they have Wi-Fi?

AntV
30 Jun 2023  #1455

nobody has any idea how to end it. :

Someone has to first try to end it before we know whether or not anyone has any idea how to end. So far, the only ones who have tried to end it are the Russians by invading and thinking they'd be in Kiev by tea-but starting it and being wrong isn't much of an idea. Since then, all anyone has tried to do is keep this thing going.

Novichok
30 Jun 2023  #1456

Ukrainians can't break through our defenses - Chechen commander

And the comments:

These figures are appalling. The rada should order an immediate surrender, demand the withdrawal of western gangsters, and end this pointless, juvenile game of killing.

The minefields that Russia prepared are absolutely devastating. Ukrainian soldiers can't walk more than four feet without stepping on one. The video footage on this is hard to watch.

"Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky admitted that his troops had encountered "very tough resistance" on the ground" - WTF?!. Did it ever occur to the brainless pig that he had taken on the Russians? Did he have no grasp of the history of Russia?


Evidently not, dear reader.

As this war goes on, the idea of signing what Putin asked for a year ago looks pretty damn good, doesn't it, a-holes...

Novichok
30 Jun 2023  #1457

Russian MP gives reason for Wagner mutiny

The Wagner Group was the only military formation that had refused to sign a contract with the Russian Defense Ministry shortly before it launched its insurrection last week, senior Russian MP Andrey Kartapolov said on Thursday.

Faced with this rebuttal, the Russian authorities told the group that it would no longer be involved in the military campaign in Ukraine, Kartapolov stated. "This means that there will be no more money, no more financial or material resources.


Simple. No contract and you are out.

mafketis
30 Jun 2023  #1458

russian finest (in terms of convict cannon fodder) has had it....

twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1674370881332686851

GefreiterKania
30 Jun 2023  #1459

Someone has to first try to end it

Ukrainians tried repeatedly by calling the invaders to leave their land and stop murdering their people - that is a very commonsensical demand towards the aggressors before any peace talks can commence.

As for Russians not being able to process in their brains that their 2nd army of the 3rd world made a complete joke of itself - well, I'm quite sure it was also difficult for many Germans to acknowledge that the "invincible" Wehrmacht turned out to be not so invincible in the end. Tough sh*t.

Korvinus
30 Jun 2023  #1460

Russia could just as easily level Kiev and kill as many civilians as

You have to be fu*cking kidding me.

I don't even know, just read some Lev Tolstoy or something. Russia never valued life of it's people and threw them into various meatgrinders. It's a known historic fact

travel999
30 Jun 2023  #1461

Russia isn't going to invade Poland and there is no threat of it.

GefreiterKania
30 Jun 2023  #1462

Russia isn't going to invade Poland

We heard exactly the same thing about Ukraine, on this very forum, from certain Russian members, a couple of days before the invasion. So, the logical conclusion is: the more Russians repeat they aren't going to invade, the more diligently should a wise country prepare for the invasion.

Luke1410
30 Jun 2023  #1463

Absolutely, Poland has to start serious preparations, if they haven't already.

GefreiterKania
30 Jun 2023  #1464

if they haven't already.

Of course we have. The first K2s, Abrams and HIMARS launchers already arrived (and we bought sh*tloads of them); we are also getting Patriots and F-35s plus tons of other stuff whilst increasing the numbers of both professional army and the territorial defence. When Russians invade Poland, they will face a modern NATO army reinforced by sizeable American expeditionary forces already present here. Good luck, Vladimir. xD

Luke1410
30 Jun 2023  #1465

The increase of the territorial defence is a key factor I think, the easiest thing to do and will have a good effect. That needs to be expanded as much as possible so people are prepared.

Ironside
30 Jun 2023  #1466

@Luke1410
Most important are command-intelligence systems. Poland should have our own satellites, certain capabilities to shoot off enemy satellites. Sooner than later our nukes, something I was talking about 10 years ago. Told you we would need it.

More than buying tanks we need better organisation of the military with clear rules and a path of advancement for the people with right attitude and mental acumen. To get rid of PRL rotten ways.

Luke1410
30 Jun 2023  #1467

I think nukes give you a false sense of security and so I wouldn't focus on this too much, you wouldn't ever want to use one.

johnny reb
30 Jun 2023  #1468

I was wonder how long it would be before General Greta would get involved in the war.
Zelensky met yesterday with activist Greta Thunberg and other members of a new group looking into the environmental consequences of war.
They discussed the impact of the attack on the Kakhovka dam and hydroelectric power plant earlier this month as well as other issues related to the "destructive impact of Russian aggression on nature," Zelensky said in his nightly address.

I wonder if they discussed all the toxins in the air from the bombs and munitions that has blown over Poland.

Novichok
30 Jun 2023  #1469

Quoting:

Russia has for many years warned NATO against further eastward expansion, viewing the alliance as a security threat. Senior officials in Moscow have repeatedly cited Kiev's desire to join the bloc as one of the reasons Russia launched its military operation in February 2022.

But, of course, PF Russia haters know better. The invasion had nothing to do with NATO, the gentle giant spreading peace, love, freedom, and democracy.

Ironside
30 Jun 2023  #1470

@Luke1410
What? Whatever, I would most certainly used it if circumstances called for it.
@Novichok
You love Russia because you're an evil twerp that hates people. Normal folk that know what Russia stands for hate it . Bad things should be rejected.


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