Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 6

You trust Senior Officials in Moscow? Are you a total f'in retard?

You act like we are all brainwashed idiots who believe everything that NATO says, we don't. We can see the madness just like you can, but we can also see that a lot of it originates from Putin.

'What? Whatever, I would most certainly used it if circumstances called for it'

All I'm saying is look at France, they are a nuclear armed state, but have Russian sponsored rabid leftists burning down their country for a third night in a row, nukes are powerless against this. This war is being fought on many fronts, Poland has to box clever.

And now the Russian people are paying the price.
The currency fell as low as 87.75 against the dollar, hitting a fresh15-month low.
The ruble has dropped over 15% since the start of 2023 and is down more than 80% from a high in June 2022.
And it is only to get worse until Putin cries, "UNCLE" !

France brought it upon itself - as Western idiots usually do - by bringing home people who hate them. Serves the a-holes right. See the UK and Sweden.

On the other hand, immigrants are so much fun and help the economy - by arson and looting...All those construction jobs and a boost for the GDP...

The West had no choice, Putin has had us over a barrel.

This war was intended as the end game of a long campaign of destruction of the West. He didn't count on Zelensky however.

Terse pretending to be wisdom.

Indeed replying to you is like throwing pearls to swine.

There's still hope with this one, the American right have somehow been hijacked by Putin, but they can be snapped back, once they see that the so called 'Christian values' that Putin professes is total bollox.

Terse pretending to be wisdom - Part 2.
You are hereby notified to be in competition for the title of The Most Insane Comment of the Year.

Yes, Luke, a 70 billion a year military is planning to destroy 20 times bigger militaries - three of which have nukes. Let us know how this can be done...

One nut here would be tolerable. Many nuts are a lot harder to ignore. First, Russia is weak, out of ammo, and thoroughly incompetent...Next day...Russia is destroying the West...

Inmates in Congo mental institutions don't say sh*it like this.


Then don't. If you do, make your mother smile, not cringe...

Not fair to argue that no one has tried to end this thing (besides the Russians, who you've mentioned).

China came out with a proposal, which was not entirely one-sided in favoring the Russians. In fact, it was a pretty good deal for the Ukrainians - had they been given permission by Blinken and others to negotiate it in good faith. As it were, the United States pretty transparently torpedoed the Chinese initiative. At least the Chinese managed to sit the Saudis and Iranians down for talks, because that was another huge cash cow for the American MIC that they were not willing to lose.

After the Chinese attempt, came the turn of the Africans. These fellas were just treated with outright racism. The Poles had some fun with their security staff, Zelensky organized a fake air raid, then his deputy said Africa has "no understanding of the conflict and should abstain from providing advice". Mind you - these people that "don't understand the conflict" are the ones suffering from critical hits to their food supply chain, and are facing famine.

Finally, there is of course the Potato Fuhrer himself. Lukashenko has offered his mediation in the conflict since the very beginning. The laurels of a peacemaker really appeal to his soul.

There's also the 80% or so of the Russian entertainment industry which has been calling for an end to the war (lots of Ukrainians amongst our pop stars and actors). Now a lot of them are sitting in places like Tel Aviv and Istanbul. People are not taking their appeals very seriously, since these guys clearly just want to go back to touring both countries and making as much money as possible.

When a forum member, one day before the invasion, swears on his granma's life that the troops at the borders are there just on usual manoeuvres, and that there will certainly be no invasion of any kind, and then, right after the aggression, claims that Ukrainians brought it on themselves and that the invasion was a logical consequence of it - would that be a good example of the mental illness you mentioned? ;)

@GefreiterKania

I don't think Velund is privy to discussions at the Security Council of the Russian Federation.

I am not sure if that's the name but at some point, things should be too embarrassing to say even for the most committed Russia-hating Polish fanatics.


When forum members, one day after Putin says it's about NATO, say they know he doesn't mean it, they exhibit the most enviable talent ever - the ability to read minds. Congratulations!

I am in awe!

@Bobko

Probably not. But trying to uphold (and justify!) two mutually exclusive positions in the space of 24-hours requires amazing mental acrobatics.

Not that it never happened on this board before. :D

Oh, well - maybe it was just another example of the famous maskirovka. ;)

I believe thats called a propagandist.

How "gracious" of them ;D


Bullsh1t.


Because they usually don't have understanding or even knowledge about this conflict. That's a different continent with different history and it's the RuSSian propaganda/narrative that is dominant there, from what I know.

Perhaps they exist. I never met any, but perhaps.

You should, however, pay more attention to the most commited Russia-loving Polish fanatics, like me.

My lack of admiration (to put it extremely mildly) for Putin and the putinist Russia is caused by my love for this country, not hatred. Russia, having all natural resources imaginable, should be the Slavic Switzerland - only c*ntillion times larger and c*ntillion times richer. A rallying point for all Slavs to come crying when something goes wrong (like the USA is for other NATO members, for example). Instead, it is a Slavic Zimbabwe, only larger. :-/

This war pushes them ever further from Switzerland and ever closer to Zimbabwe.

There is 0% chance Russia will invade Poland.

The war between Russia and Ukraine has been going on since at least 2014.

Meanwhile there is no war or territorial dispute between Russia and Poland.

The only way Russia invades Poland is if Poland declares war and attacks first.

Russia is less leftist than the US.


I don't "suggest". I say it. I never said "I support Putin" or the equivalent. Your inferences are not my problem.


You just destroyed the entire Polish belief system and the reason to get up in the morning. Bad boy... You should give them a replacement enemy to feel heroic again.

You are very naive/ignorant.


No, he didn't. It's just an opinion of some dude on an internet forum lol


Sure, you just said you love him o_O

@Novichok
Yes because the fact is that Poland is protected by the deterrent of WW3.

NATO has a clause that attack on one member nation is an attack on all.

If Russia attacked Poland then they would be attacking Poland, Germany, UK, France, and the rest of NATO, and that is not something Russia is interested in, and there is no reason to start that war.

Russia just wants to win Ukraine. The last thing Russia or anyone else wants is WW3.

Anyone with common sense knows there is 0% chance that Russia is going to preemptively attack Poland. It's not going to happen.

Russia could invade Ukraine because Ukraine is not part of NATO.

Fortunately, everyone here instigating war is wasting their time because no one with knowledge or sense thinks there is more than a 0% chance Russia would invade Poland.

Russia will never invade Poland unless Poland declares war and strikes first, because a strike on one NATO state like Poland is a strike on all member states.

Anyone saying otherwise needs to learn something about geopolitics.

At this moment - sure. But we don't know what future holds.

Yes, especially that RuSSians have bigger worries right now - like Putin washing their future down the drain, for example :))


I'm wondering too :)))

Archetypical Pole. Willing to cut off her own nose, if it makes the Russians squirm.

Bobko , you are a typical, prejudiced anti-Polish RuSSian imperialist :)))


Poland isn't arming itself to "make RuSSians squirm", but to be and feel safer. Why is it so hard for Putinists to understand this? Anyone knowing the history of Poland shouldn't be surprised by what Poland is doing. Somehow other Europeans understand this, so why not RuSSians?

Especially considering what crap your officials and propagandists are openly saying.

@Bobko, in case I didn't state this earlier - I think it's good that Poland is arming itself. The only thing I may have doubts about is if our government is buying the right equipment, if they aren't buying too hastily and too many at once (it's not like RuSSia will invade us tomorrow), if they're prioritising the right stuff, etc. So, the idea is good - I'm just worried, as always, about PiS' execution of this idea.

'Russians here will confirm that nobody is interested in Poland'

Kadyrov has stated 'I want Poland' (for obvious reasons) and he is poised to take over from Putin now that Prigozhin is out of the picture.

I want Poland too, doesn't mean we should invade it. Ukraine is a very special case. The fu*kers stabbed us in the heart, right where it hurts. We can't let them have her.

'I'm just worried, as always, about PiS' execution of this idea.'

Would you rather the execution of the idea was carried out by the EU? Who's first instinct was to let Putin have Ukraine so as not to rock the boat?